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Warning about Opera
I have never liked Opera, but since Firefox made using their extensions
near impossible, I thought I'd give Opera another try. That was a mistake! Opera 10.63 is the last version that runs in Win98. I installed Opera 10.63 in Windows 98se, and rebooted. After the reboot, my screen went from 768x1024 to 640x480. This also messed up the order of my desktop icons.... Is this a known bug in Opera 10.x? [Note] This is not the first time older versions of Opera have corrupted my operating system settings. I quickly found out that Opera 10.x and below do not support extensions anyhow. Needless to say, I removed it from my system, and restored the registry from a day prior to installing Opera. That's the last time I ever use that piece of crap! |
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Warning about Opera
radarlove wrote:
I have never liked Opera, but since Firefox made using their extensions near impossible, Firefox 2.0.0.20 was the last version to support Windows 98. That is too old to provide the internal functions required by many extensions unless you can find really old versions of those extensions to match the old version of Firefox. With an old OS and an old app, you need the old extensions. I thought I'd give Opera another try. That was a mistake! Opera 10.63 is the last version that runs in Win98. I installed Opera 10.63 in Windows 98se, and rebooted. After the reboot, my screen went from 768x1024 to 640x480. This also messed up the order of my desktop icons.... Is this a known bug in Opera 10.x? [Note] This is not the first time older versions of Opera have corrupted my operating system settings. I recall also seeing Windows updates causing a change in screen resolution so I had to reselect the one I had after the reboot. Some updates actually caused 2 reboots: one to go into Safe Mode to allow replacement of what would be otherwise inuse files and reboot again to go into Windows normal mode. The interim safe mode boot caused a change in screen resolution (it won't use the highest resolution available but uses only 640x480). Some apps are coded to display at a minimum of 1024x768 so I had to use the keyboard controls (Alt+Spacebar to open the control menu, M to move, and arrow keys to move the window around) to see other parts of the app's window. The change in screen resolution resulted in all the desktop icons got rearranged when booted into safe mode since screen size was smaller. I got the same rearrangement upon the subsequent normal boot. When a reboot is required for an update, sometimes the UI gets changed. Even in Windows 7, sometimes an update requiring a reboot has resulted in losing my toolbars added to the Windows taskbar. The update forced a fresh state for the taskbar. Fortunately that only occurs a couple times per year and it's easy to re-add my toolbars (re-adding them is easy while arranging them takes longer). You don't mention if the screen resolution change happens on every Windows boot or just the one time. How long was Windows 98 up before you installed Opera? If you had Windows 98 running for awhile, you can't be certain that something else before installing Opera caused the screen resolution change. Some updates are effected on startup. I quickly found out that Opera 10.x and below do not support extensions anyhow. So the need for old versions of extensions is a non-issue. Needless to say, I removed it from my system, and restored the registry from a day prior to installing Opera. That's the last time I ever use that piece of crap! So, did Opera change the screen resolution on every Windows 98 startup? Or was it just the one time. If it was just the one time, well, you're talking about a 9x-based kernel (a frankenjob of 9x and DOS) for which the mantra "reboot to fix a problem" was very common. Doesn't seem a piece of crap if it happened just once, and for an install. When you say that you restored the registry, did you export to a .reg file from regedit.exe and then later import that .reg or did you restore the registry files from a backup? Exporting and importing will not affect those registry keys to which you, not even administrators, have access. regedit.exe doesn't show everything so it cannot export it all and import to everywhere. An image backup would let you restore to the prior state of your disk which would include the registry *files*. If you're still trying to use that old OS and get "newer" older versions of non-IE web browsers to use on that old OS, I don't see a one-time screwup after the install of new software as being so drastic a catastrophe as you describe. If the desktop icon rearrangment is not happening on every reboot, suffer the one-time fault and move on. Just because I get a flat tire doesn't have me discard the car. If Opera was changing the screen resolution on every Windows reboot (rather than its installer or a pending Windows update doing that once) then, yes, dump it. Since it cannot support extensions, why not use an old version of Firefox and without extensions? You'd be in the same state as with Opera: no extensions. Don't know why you are still using a really old version of Windows, and a 9x/DOS-kernel frankenjob. I'm not a Linux proselytizer but if the reason for sticking with Windows 98 is you don't want to pay for a newer version of Windows then think about moving to Linux. For most Windows- bred users, Mint is an easy migration. Then you could use the latest version of Opera, Firefox, Google Chrome or whatever web browser had a Linux code fork. The Linux newsgroups or forums could tell if your old hardware will work with Mint. For example, although some folks will list "PAE-capable processor" as a system requirement, the Mint says otherwise (http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_rafaela_cinnamon.php, "Booting with non-PAE CPUs"). Unless this is an archive project (which means you shouldn't be installing anything other than the OS), seems you should consider moving to a newer version of Windows (yeah, costs money) or consider moving to a Linux variant (free but with a learning curve but some variants are easier to use from the get-go). Have you yet tried an old version of Firefox on your Windows 98 setup? Yeah, no extensions but that would've happened if you got Opera installed without the "repeat screen resolution change on boot" problem (if it really does repeat and was not a one-time incident). |
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Warning about Opera
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:48:11 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
So, did Opera change the screen resolution on every Windows 98 startup? Or was it just the one time. If it was just the one time, well, you're It never happens normally. I did not change or install anything else in months except fighting with FF extensions, using FF 3.6x with Kernel-Ex. This happened after I installed Opera and shortly afterwards I rebooted. I only rebooted because I had to shut off the power in the house because I was wiring up a light fixture. As soon as the computer started, I had that messed up screen. Like I said, Opera has done simolar things in the past, so I have no doubts it was the cause. I removed Opera right away. I restored the registry from Dos Enter: scanreg /restore. Registry restore is easy in win98. Win98 is my preferred OS. But I also use XP on another machine, and do at times boot to PC-linux or Puppy Linux, using a bootable USB flash drive. I tried Linux Mint, and thought it was a bloated piece of crap, which also locked up my computer (the XP machine). I'm no big fan of linux, but it's a good way to copy the XP folder to my backup drive and it plays music and videos well. Otherwise I can do without it. I will never install Opera again on any computer or OS. Besides it's obvious bugs, (like this screen messup), I dont like it anyhow, and never have. I dislike IE, but I'd use IE before I'd ever use Opera again. But my perferred browsers are all Mozilla based. Firefox *was* my favorite for years, but they seem to have sold out, and their bloated nerer versions just chew up all my resources, and their latest versions are lacking all the familiar buttons. K-Meleon and Seamonkey are what I am using most now. Chrome also sucks! My next computer will be a Macintosh! |
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Warning about Opera
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:48:11 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
So, did Opera change the screen resolution on every Windows 98 startup? Or was it just the one time. If it was just the one time, well, you're It never happens normally. I did not change or install anything else in months except fighting with FF extensions, using FF 3.6x with Kernel-Ex. This happened after I installed Opera and shortly afterwards I rebooted. I only rebooted because I had to shut off the power in the house because I was wiring up a light fixture. As soon as the computer started, I had that messed up screen. Like I said, Opera has done simolar things in the past, so I have no doubts it was the cause. I removed Opera right away. I restored the registry from Dos Enter: scanreg /restore. Registry restore is easy in win98. Win98 is my preferred OS. But I also use XP on another machine, and do at times boot to PC-linux or Puppy Linux, using a bootable USB flash drive. I tried Linux Mint, and thought it was a bloated piece of crap, which also locked up my computer (the XP machine). I'm no big fan of linux, but it's a good way to copy the XP folder to my backup drive and it plays music and videos well. Otherwise I can do without it. I will never install Opera again on any computer or OS. Besides it's obvious bugs, (like this screen messup), I dont like it anyhow, and never have. I dislike IE, but I'd use IE before I'd ever use Opera again. But my perferred browsers are all Mozilla based. Firefox *was* my favorite for years, but they seem to have sold out, and their bloated nerer versions just chew up all my resources, and their latest versions are lacking all the familiar buttons. K-Meleon and Seamonkey are what I am using most now. Chrome also sucks! My next computer will be a Macintosh! |
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Warning about Opera
wrote in message ... I have never liked Opera, but since Firefox made using their extensions near impossible, I thought I'd give Opera another try. That was a mistake! Opera 10.63 is the last version that runs in Win98. Opera_1051_en_Setup.exe Best One for windows 98 No bugs I installed Opera 10.63 in Windows 98se, and rebooted. After the reboot, my screen went from 768x1024 to 640x480. This also messed up the order of my desktop icons.... Is this a known bug in Opera 10.x? [Note] This is not the first time older versions of Opera have corrupted my operating system settings. I quickly found out that Opera 10.x and below do not support extensions anyhow. Needless to say, I removed it from my system, and restored the registry from a day prior to installing Opera. That's the last time I ever use that piece of crap! |
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