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Last day of posting via Microsoft server
"Dan" wrote in message
... Well, I guess this is the last day of posting via the Microsoft server. No, it's not. Only certain low-activity groups were being closed at the end of June. More active groups are being phased out through the Autumn. If there was no post in this group from MS specifically stating this group was closing at the end of the month (on their server), then it hasn't been scheduled yet. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Oops!.... Last day of posting via Microsoft server
"glee" wrote in message
... "Dan" wrote in message ... Well, I guess this is the last day of posting via the Microsoft server. No, it's not. Only certain low-activity groups were being closed at the end of June. More active groups are being phased out through the Autumn. If there was no post in this group from MS specifically stating this group was closing at the end of the month (on their server), then it hasn't been scheduled yet. Oops....I see they did post here on June 29, stating this group would be closed on July 1. No matter....it will still be available on other servers. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Oops!.... Last day of posting via Microsoft server
"glee" wrote in message
... "Dan" wrote in message ... Well, I guess this is the last day of posting via the Microsoft server. No, it's not. Only certain low-activity groups were being closed at the end of June. More active groups are being phased out through the Autumn. If there was no post in this group from MS specifically stating this group was closing at the end of the month (on their server), then it hasn't been scheduled yet. Oops....I see they did post here on June 29, stating this group would be closed on July 1. No matter....it will still be available on other servers. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Oops!.... Last day of posting via Microsoft server
Glee,
Which other servers? Angel "glee" wrote in message ... : "glee" wrote in message : ... : "Dan" wrote in message : ... : Well, I guess this is the last day of posting via the Microsoft : server. : : No, it's not. Only certain low-activity groups were being closed at : the end of June. More active groups are being phased out through the : Autumn. : : If there was no post in this group from MS specifically stating this : group was closing at the end of the month (on their server), then it : hasn't been scheduled yet. : : Oops....I see they did post here on June 29, stating this group would be : closed on July 1. : : No matter....it will still be available on other servers. : -- : Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 : A+ : http://dts-l.net/ : |
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Oops!.... Last day of posting via Microsoft server
Glee,
Which other servers? Angel "glee" wrote in message ... : "glee" wrote in message : ... : "Dan" wrote in message : ... : Well, I guess this is the last day of posting via the Microsoft : server. : : No, it's not. Only certain low-activity groups were being closed at : the end of June. More active groups are being phased out through the : Autumn. : : If there was no post in this group from MS specifically stating this : group was closing at the end of the month (on their server), then it : hasn't been scheduled yet. : : Oops....I see they did post here on June 29, stating this group would be : closed on July 1. : : No matter....it will still be available on other servers. : -- : Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 : A+ : http://dts-l.net/ : |
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Last day of posting via Microsoft server
Glen, do you happen to know what the real reason was that MS chose to
discontinue the nntp server based newsgroups? Did they consider it too much maintenance or hassle to maintain, or expense, or what? Surely it wasn't due to complaints about the nntp based format (which most of us prefer, methinks). glee wrote: "Dan" wrote in message ... Well, I guess this is the last day of posting via the Microsoft server. No, it's not. Only certain low-activity groups were being closed at the end of June. More active groups are being phased out through the Autumn. If there was no post in this group from MS specifically stating this group was closing at the end of the month (on their server), then it hasn't been scheduled yet. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Last day of posting via Microsoft server
Glen, do you happen to know what the real reason was that MS chose to discontinue the nntp server based newsgroups? Did they consider it too much maintenance or hassle to maintain, or expense, or what? Surely it wasn't due to complaints about the nntp based format (which most of us prefer, methinks). glee wrote: "Dan" wrote in message ... Well, I guess this is the last day of posting via the Microsoft server. No, it's not. Only certain low-activity groups were being closed at the end of June. More active groups are being phased out through the Autumn. If there was no post in this group from MS specifically stating this group was closing at the end of the month (on their server), then it hasn't been scheduled yet. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Last day of posting via Microsoft server
Here's a couple listed below for Angel, too. :-)
Hughes nntp.aioe.org wrote: It's fast too. Thanks. "98 Guy" wrote in message ... "L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" top-poasted: http://www.teranews.com/ Just use nntp.aioe.org. It's free, and no registration required. |
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Last day of posting via Microsoft server
Here's a couple listed below for Angel, too. :-)
Hughes nntp.aioe.org wrote: It's fast too. Thanks. "98 Guy" wrote in message ... "L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" top-poasted: http://www.teranews.com/ Just use nntp.aioe.org. It's free, and no registration required. |
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Last day of posting via Microsoft server
"Bill in Co." wrote:
Glen, do you happen to know what the real reason was that MS chose to discontinue the nntp server based newsgroups? MVP's and other non-administrative or non-microsoft people will never know why microsoft does anything. It's safe to assume that Microsoft wanted to simply end it's peering relationship with usenet, because that is essentially what is being accomplished. Microsoft made the bogus argument about web-based "communities" being more relavent and useful than the ancient usenet, but Microsoft ALREADY HAD A WEB-BASED FORUM INTERFACE that people were using instead of NNTP. Microsoft could have touched nothing and done nothing except put an axe through the line that connected their web-based forum server to their NNTP server, but the optics of that would have been obvious, so they went through this big song and dance of reinventing their forums from scratch, this time with no linkage to a real nntp server, but still doing something kludgy and corny like providing a pseudo-NNTP interface. Again, when you look at the end result, they have effectively ended their peering relationship with usenet. All else is the same - even if it looks shiny and new. Why? Control. They no longer have to deal with external posts from unregistered users on all sorts of topics that are unpalatible to them. Language, politics, philosophy, microsoft-bashing, microsoft-hacking, spam, etc. And as you've noticed, they will not bring back some forums, like Office 97/2k, NT, 2K, win-95/98/me. All the OS's and products that don't require validation / registration to install and be functional. And one other reason. Microsoft wants to move to a support model where people that need help can pay other people to provide it, and those other people are not necessarily employed by Microsoft. So they are working on platforms and interfaces that will allow an paid-support ecosystem to function. Did they consider it too much maintenance or hassle to maintain, or expense, or what? It costs practically nothing to operate a usenet server. Many do it as a hobby. Even cheaper when your server is only handling a small fraction of the total number of possible usenet groups. They seemed to expend no expense at preventing their server from being used as a spam platform - many or most of the spam that got simultaneously posted to dozens or hundreds of microsoft.public groups got posted from their own server. |
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