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  #21  
Old May 10th 08, 01:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
pemo
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os

- have a similar situation. i have formatted and partitioned a laptop , i
have both the external floppy and cd drive units, but while the floppy drive
is hooked up with the bootdisk in it, it can't recognize, or find, a cd
drive on the laptop, so ultimately i can not run the win98 install disk i
have. the lap top does not have the driver installed for the cd drive. what
can i do to get the cd drive working when hooked up.
thanks for any info.

"xskarmah" wrote in message
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I got a laptop free and wanted to install 98 on it, a clean install for my
nephew. I burned a bootcd, and managed to format and partition it, my
trouble
starts because I dont have another disk drive to put the iso I have in, I
only have the one drive, the laptop does not have a Floppy drive.


Any suggestions? Whenever I try and use any setup commands I get invalid
media trying to read disk



  #22  
Old May 10th 08, 01:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Jeff Richards
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os

Have you checked the laptop manufacturer's www site for drivers and an
installation procedure for the CD in DOS? The usual procedure is to
prepare the hard drive for booting to DOS with CD support using the floppy,
then do the install from the CD (or the CD copied to the hard drive) after
booting to the hard drive with the CD drive connected.

If the CD is a third party product such as USB then it gets a bit trickier.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"pemo" wrote in message
...
- have a similar situation. i have formatted and partitioned a laptop , i
have both the external floppy and cd drive units, but while the floppy
drive
is hooked up with the bootdisk in it, it can't recognize, or find, a cd
drive on the laptop, so ultimately i can not run the win98 install disk i
have. the lap top does not have the driver installed for the cd drive.
what
can i do to get the cd drive working when hooked up.
thanks for any info.



  #23  
Old May 10th 08, 04:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
pemo
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os

thanks for reply.
when bootdisk starts screen asks to choose if i want cd support. i choose
yes and when bootdisk finishes screen states MCD001 not found. so when i
hook up cd module it is never found on laptop. dell site has cd drivers, but
when copied onto floppy and floppy put in laptop module, can't get it to
load in dos. to laptop

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
Have you checked the laptop manufacturer's www site for drivers and an
installation procedure for the CD in DOS? The usual procedure is to
prepare the hard drive for booting to DOS with CD support using the
floppy, then do the install from the CD (or the CD copied to the hard
drive) after booting to the hard drive with the CD drive connected.

If the CD is a third party product such as USB then it gets a bit
trickier.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"pemo" wrote in message
...
- have a similar situation. i have formatted and partitioned a laptop , i
have both the external floppy and cd drive units, but while the floppy
drive
is hooked up with the bootdisk in it, it can't recognize, or find, a cd
drive on the laptop, so ultimately i can not run the win98 install disk i
have. the lap top does not have the driver installed for the cd drive.
what
can i do to get the cd drive working when hooked up.
thanks for any info.





  #24  
Old May 10th 08, 05:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Jeff Richards
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os

Which bootdisk are you referring to? If it's the floppy, that won't work,
even though it seems the floppy has the right files on it. The CD drivers
will not load properly if the CD drive isn't connected.

If your laptop allows booting from CD, then you can use your CD writing
software on the desktop machine to make a bootable DOS emergency startup CD
using any of the DOS or W98 startup disks available at bootdisk.com.

Otherwise, you will need to set up the hard disk as bootable, with the
required commands to install the CD drivers, then connect the CD drive and
boot to the hard disk.

There's a description he
http://kb.iu.edu/data/ajgd.html

Note that your manufacturer may specify something other than the OAKCD*.SYS
for the CD driver file - you may need to alter these references to suit.

Also, the site uses the name MSCD001 for the CD device name, whereas others
use MSCD0001 - it doesn't matter what you use, but it is critical that you
are consistent.

If you are already booting to the hard disk with the CD drive connected and
you are getting that message, then the CD drivers are not loading properly.
Watch the boot process very carefully to see the error message that is
occurring before the MSCDxx not found message.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"pemo" wrote in message
...
thanks for reply.
when bootdisk starts screen asks to choose if i want cd support. i choose
yes and when bootdisk finishes screen states MCD001 not found. so when i
hook up cd module it is never found on laptop. dell site has cd drivers,
but when copied onto floppy and floppy put in laptop module, can't get it
to load in dos. to laptop



  #25  
Old May 10th 08, 03:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
pemo
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os

yes i was using a floppy bootdisk for win98. that was the operating system
that was last on the laptop and the one i have a cd for reinstalling.
understood. i will try that this evening. i will get the info on the floppy
boot to a cd and change the laptop bios to load the cd module first at
startup and see how it goes.
-- i might be back!
thank you jeff.

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
Which bootdisk are you referring to? If it's the floppy, that won't work,
even though it seems the floppy has the right files on it. The CD drivers
will not load properly if the CD drive isn't connected.

If your laptop allows booting from CD, then you can use your CD writing
software on the desktop machine to make a bootable DOS emergency startup
CD using any of the DOS or W98 startup disks available at bootdisk.com.

Otherwise, you will need to set up the hard disk as bootable, with the
required commands to install the CD drivers, then connect the CD drive and
boot to the hard disk.

There's a description he
http://kb.iu.edu/data/ajgd.html

Note that your manufacturer may specify something other than the
OAKCD*.SYS for the CD driver file - you may need to alter these references
to suit.

Also, the site uses the name MSCD001 for the CD device name, whereas
others use MSCD0001 - it doesn't matter what you use, but it is critical
that you are consistent.

If you are already booting to the hard disk with the CD drive connected
and you are getting that message, then the CD drivers are not loading
properly. Watch the boot process very carefully to see the error message
that is occurring before the MSCDxx not found message.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"pemo" wrote in message
...
thanks for reply.
when bootdisk starts screen asks to choose if i want cd support. i choose
yes and when bootdisk finishes screen states MCD001 not found. so when i
hook up cd module it is never found on laptop. dell site has cd drivers,
but when copied onto floppy and floppy put in laptop module, can't get it
to load in dos. to laptop





  #26  
Old May 11th 08, 12:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
pemo
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os

jeff,
that did it. the link to the description /walk-thru, and the instructions
were perfect. thanks again
"pemo" wrote in message
...
yes i was using a floppy bootdisk for win98. that was the operating system
that was last on the laptop and the one i have a cd for reinstalling.
understood. i will try that this evening. i will get the info on the
floppy boot to a cd and change the laptop bios to load the cd module first
at startup and see how it goes.
-- i might be back!
thank you jeff.

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
Which bootdisk are you referring to? If it's the floppy, that won't
work, even though it seems the floppy has the right files on it. The CD
drivers will not load properly if the CD drive isn't connected.

If your laptop allows booting from CD, then you can use your CD writing
software on the desktop machine to make a bootable DOS emergency startup
CD using any of the DOS or W98 startup disks available at bootdisk.com.

Otherwise, you will need to set up the hard disk as bootable, with the
required commands to install the CD drivers, then connect the CD drive
and boot to the hard disk.

There's a description he
http://kb.iu.edu/data/ajgd.html

Note that your manufacturer may specify something other than the
OAKCD*.SYS for the CD driver file - you may need to alter these
references to suit.

Also, the site uses the name MSCD001 for the CD device name, whereas
others use MSCD0001 - it doesn't matter what you use, but it is critical
that you are consistent.

If you are already booting to the hard disk with the CD drive connected
and you are getting that message, then the CD drivers are not loading
properly. Watch the boot process very carefully to see the error message
that is occurring before the MSCDxx not found message.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"pemo" wrote in message
...
thanks for reply.
when bootdisk starts screen asks to choose if i want cd support. i
choose yes and when bootdisk finishes screen states MCD001 not found. so
when i hook up cd module it is never found on laptop. dell site has cd
drivers, but when copied onto floppy and floppy put in laptop module,
can't get it to load in dos. to laptop







  #27  
Old May 11th 08, 09:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Jeff Richards
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os

Thanks for letting us know that you got it sorted out.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"pemo" wrote in message
...
jeff,
that did it. the link to the description /walk-thru, and the instructions
were perfect. thanks again



  #28  
Old May 11th 08, 10:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os

If you don't mind, Jeff, just so I'm sure what's what. This laptop could not
boot from the CD drive, but could boot from the interchangeable floppy
drive? So sufficient stuff had to be done from the floppy boot to make the
HD bootable with CDROM support?

Or were bootable CD solutions viable, just not as convenient?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
Thanks for letting us know that you got it sorted out.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"pemo" wrote in message
...
jeff,
that did it. the link to the description /walk-thru, and the instructions
were perfect. thanks again




  #29  
Old May 12th 08, 01:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
pemo
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os


the laptop could boot from the floppy, but while the floppy module was
hooked up the cd module could not be, so when it came time to switch to the
cd module to load the win98 program the laptop had not been able to
recognize the cd module. i did not have a boot disk made on a cd. i chose to
take the path of the walkthru and use the floppy boot disk i had, and then
install from the win98 cd after. never tried if the laptop could have booted
from a cd bootdisk, after i began reading the walkthru, i felt it was an
option i could handle, so i never burned a boot cd.
"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
If you don't mind, Jeff, just so I'm sure what's what. This laptop could
not boot from the CD drive, but could boot from the interchangeable floppy
drive? So sufficient stuff had to be done from the floppy boot to make the
HD bootable with CDROM support?

Or were bootable CD solutions viable, just not as convenient?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
Thanks for letting us know that you got it sorted out.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"pemo" wrote in message
...
jeff,
that did it. the link to the description /walk-thru, and the
instructions were perfect. thanks again






  #30  
Old May 12th 08, 02:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os

Thanks...

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Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"pemo" wrote in message
...

the laptop could boot from the floppy, but while the floppy module was
hooked up the cd module could not be, so when it came time to switch to
the cd module to load the win98 program the laptop had not been able to
recognize the cd module. i did not have a boot disk made on a cd. i chose
to take the path of the walkthru and use the floppy boot disk i had, and
then install from the win98 cd after. never tried if the laptop could have
booted from a cd bootdisk, after i began reading the walkthru, i felt it
was an option i could handle, so i never burned a boot cd.
"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
If you don't mind, Jeff, just so I'm sure what's what. This laptop could
not boot from the CD drive, but could boot from the interchangeable
floppy drive? So sufficient stuff had to be done from the floppy boot to
make the HD bootable with CDROM support?

Or were bootable CD solutions viable, just not as convenient?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
Thanks for letting us know that you got it sorted out.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"pemo" wrote in message
...
jeff,
that did it. the link to the description /walk-thru, and the
instructions were perfect. thanks again






 




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