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Windows Registry Repair Programs
What is the real scoop on these Windows Registry Repair programs e.g.
Registry Mechanic 5.0, Windows Registry Repair SE 2.0.0.1, WinASO Registry Optimizer 2.0.5, Free Registry Fix 3.0 ... ? They are shareware programs costing $29.95 or more. Has anyone used these programs? I'm suspicious -- ok, paranoid ; ) -- about any application that claims to fix registry problems in ALL Windows operating systems e.g. Windows 98/Me/NT/2000/XP. I'm still running Win98SE with a bloated registry, but I have no specific problems. -- Johnny_B Go, Johnny - GO! |
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If you have no problems, then avoid them.
....Alan -- Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/index.html In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "Johnny_B" wrote: What is the real scoop on these Windows Registry Repair programs e.g. Registry Mechanic 5.0, Windows Registry Repair SE 2.0.0.1, WinASO Registry Optimizer 2.0.5, Free Registry Fix 3.0 ... ? They are shareware programs costing $29.95 or more. Has anyone used these programs? I'm suspicious -- ok, paranoid ; ) -- about any application that claims to fix registry problems in ALL Windows operating systems e.g. Windows 98/Me/NT/2000/XP. I'm still running Win98SE with a bloated registry, but I have no specific problems. |
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"Johnny_B" wrote in message news:s0eAe.30802$ro.13345@fed1read02... What is the real scoop on these Windows Registry Repair programs e.g. Registry Mechanic 5.0, Windows Registry Repair SE 2.0.0.1, WinASO Registry Optimizer 2.0.5, Free Registry Fix 3.0 ... ? They are shareware programs costing $29.95 or more. Has anyone used these programs? I'm suspicious -- ok, paranoid ; ) -- about any application that claims to fix registry problems in ALL Windows operating systems e.g. Windows 98/Me/NT/2000/XP. I'm still running Win98SE with a bloated registry, but I have no specific problems. -- Johnny_B Go, Johnny - GO! I to have a problem, in that my registry grows by 2 to 10k daily, (with no new software being added, or changes to system?). PC very slow at startup, was 56' and is now 90' +. In Jan. 05, after re-install, reg. size was 669k, and is now 1.5Mb +. I have tried EasyCleaner but that's all. Sorry I cant answer with help JB, I just thought I'd add this bit and watch for replies. W98SE. D. |
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The real scoop is that ALL of them can - and most often will - do more
damage than they can benefit you (which is really minor). I have used many of them, and I always have to be extremely, extremely, cautious and guarded when playing around with the registry, and I say this with a fair amount of experience in messing with the registry. I've done many, many registry restores over the years, with all my tests. Unless you really truly enjoy living on the razor's edge, I would recommend you steer away from it. Dave D wrote: "Johnny_B" wrote in message news:s0eAe.30802$ro.13345@fed1read02... What is the real scoop on these Windows Registry Repair programs e.g. Registry Mechanic 5.0, Windows Registry Repair SE 2.0.0.1, WinASO Registry Optimizer 2.0.5, Free Registry Fix 3.0 ... ? They are shareware programs costing $29.95 or more. Has anyone used these programs? I'm suspicious -- ok, paranoid ; ) -- about any application that claims to fix registry problems in ALL Windows operating systems e.g. Windows 98/Me/NT/2000/XP. I'm still running Win98SE with a bloated registry, but I have no specific problems. -- Johnny_B Go, Johnny - GO! I to have a problem, in that my registry grows by 2 to 10k daily, (with no new software being added, or changes to system?). PC very slow at startup, was 56' and is now 90' +. In Jan. 05, after re-install, reg. size was 669k, and is now 1.5Mb +. I have tried EasyCleaner but that's all. Sorry I cant answer with help JB, I just thought I'd add this bit and watch for replies. W98SE. D. |
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:52:07 +1000, Alan Edwards
If you have no problems, then avoid them. If you have problems, avoid them too - they will just create new problems and make troubleshooting more difficult. -------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - "If I'd known it was harmless, I'd have killed it myself" (PKD) -------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - |
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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:52:07 +1000, Alan Edwards If you have no problems, then avoid them. If you have problems, avoid them too - they will just create new problems and make troubleshooting more difficult. Exactly. And well said. A word to the wise is sufficient, but one has to be wise enough to know that. :-) -------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - "If I'd known it was harmless, I'd have killed it myself" (PKD) -------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - |
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Amen!
-- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote in message ... On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:52:07 +1000, Alan Edwards If you have no problems, then avoid them. If you have problems, avoid them too - they will just create new problems and make troubleshooting more difficult. -------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - "If I'd known it was harmless, I'd have killed it myself" (PKD) -------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - |
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:44:41 +0100, "Dave D"
I too have a problem, in that my registry grows by 2 to 10k daily, (with no new software being added, or changes to system?). PC very slow at startup, was 56' and is now 90' +. In Jan. 05, after re-install, reg. size was 669k, and is now 1.5Mb +. I have tried EasyCleaner but that's all. Sorry I cant answer with help JB, I just thought I'd add this bit and watch for replies. Before you think, do "the prelim"... http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/bthink.htm ....but in this case, I'd jump directly to a formal virus check... http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/virtest.htm ....and then a scan with AdAware, Spybot etc. Usage info gets added to registry, but on a FIFO basis; old stuff falls off the MRU lists as quickly as new stuff is added. ScanReg with the /opt parameter should compact the registry so that left-over dead space will be removed. If you still find the registry is growing after it's been compacted, and you found nil on formal virus scan (or you skipped that step and are still fixated on the registry), then do this... Every day, run Regedit and export each hive, e.g. HKLM, HKCR, HKCU, etc. See which of these is growing, then drill down within that hive, exporting each sub-chunk in a separate file, so that you can see which of those is growing, then you can etc. You may get no pattern, i.e. everything grows diffusely. Or you may find one particular spot is growing - if so, biopsy something that looks unique but invariant, and Google on that. If you find hits suggestive of a malware problem, then go back and follow my advice from the top ;-) -- Risk Management is the clue that asks: "Why do I keep open buckets of petrol next to all the ashtrays in the lounge, when I don't even have a car?" ----------------------- ------ ---- --- -- - - - - |
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Thanks Alan. I'll ignore the 1,437 problems identified by Registry
Mechanic following a scan (scam) of my computer. Probably a lot of false positives, I surmise AND / OR junk remaining in registry following program removal. .....Johnny_B "Alan Edwards" wrote in message ... | If you have no problems, then avoid them. | | ...Alan | | -- | Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems | http://dts-l.org/index.html | | In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "Johnny_B" | wrote: | | What is the real scoop on these Windows Registry Repair programs e.g. | Registry Mechanic 5.0, Windows Registry Repair SE 2.0.0.1, WinASO | Registry Optimizer 2.0.5, Free Registry Fix 3.0 ... ? They are | shareware programs costing $29.95 or more. Has anyone used these | programs? I'm suspicious -- ok, paranoid ; ) -- about any application | that claims to fix registry problems in ALL Windows operating systems | e.g. Windows 98/Me/NT/2000/XP. I'm still running Win98SE with a bloated | registry, but I have no specific problems. | |
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Johnny_B wrote:
What is the real scoop on these Windows Registry Repair programs e.g. Registry Mechanic 5.0, Windows Registry Repair SE 2.0.0.1, WinASO Registry Optimizer 2.0.5, Free Registry Fix 3.0 ... ? They are shareware programs costing $29.95 or more. Has anyone used these programs? I'm suspicious -- ok, paranoid ; ) -- about any application that claims to fix registry problems in ALL Windows operating systems e.g. Windows 98/Me/NT/2000/XP. I'm still running Win98SE with a bloated registry, but I have no specific problems. The only program that I use on a semi-regular basis is the Registry Cleaner that's a part of TuneUp Utilities. Unlike some of the other cleaners which will show that there are errors and then clean them all or cancel RC is completely interactive. It shows all the errors by category and you can easily see which errors you want to have fixed. You can uncheck any or all if you feel wary. One lightweight example is it'll show start menu errors, something you'll get when after installing a program you decide to move the entries to your own categories. The original locations are still in the registry and of course not needed. If you have a lot of programs that have been moved around then all the old start menu locations are still in the registry. Fine to have them cleaned out. On the other end I'll use the registry cleaner not to fix anything but help me find some things I can fix manually 'cause the program's author had a typo. One game for instance, Abuse, had a shortcut where the author forgot a space between the exe and a parm (Abuse.exe-Full instead of Abuse.exe -Full [for fullscreen]). If I had let the cleaner blindly fix it, flagged as an unknown program, it would've just wiped out the whole registry entry and my shortcut from the start menu. Since TU is a suite there's a connection between some programs so if there's certain errors you want to fix manually Registry Cleaner will have a hyperlink to the registry. Clicking on that brings up its registry editor and takes you to the registry entry where you can have a closer look. So yeah, be wary of registry cleaners in general but it's possible to use some as help aids in tracking down some registry problems. Definitely stay away from those that fix/clean with no interaction from the user other than clicking OK-Fix-It-All-For-Me. -- ANIME SENSHI Marc D. Williams http://tvdog.shacknet.nu/ -- DOS Internet & Tandy 1000 http://www.geocities.com/wilmarcdw/ -- Win3.x Makeover |
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