Prevent Cascading Windows?

http://www.boomspeed.com/zandro/cascade.png

I want to upgrade my version of IE to the latest in Win98, but every version
since 5.5 infringes upon my desktop window placements. Usually, I have all of
my local windows aligned on top of each other to maximise the amount of
dimensional space available to do other work. But with the IE upgrades, they
are automatically cascading from each other, as if I shouldn't know how to
alt+tab! Has anyone a solution for me, or will I have to revert back to the
last HD image created immediately before the upgrade (an hour ago)?

"Zandro" wrote in message
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http://www.boomspeed.com/zandro/cascade.png

I want to upgrade my version of IE to the latest in Win98, but every
version
since 5.5 infringes upon my desktop window placements. Usually, I have all
of
my local windows aligned on top of each other to maximise the amount of
dimensional space available to do other work. But with the IE upgrades,
they
are automatically cascading from each other, as if I shouldn't know how to
alt+tab! Has anyone a solution for me, or will I have to revert back to
the
last HD image created immediately before the upgrade (an hour ago)?

Right-click on a blank area of the Taskbar.

The pop-up menu offers the "Cascade Windows" option
which you can turn off.

Not in any Windows I've ever seen. Clicking that cascades the open
windows, sure, but it does now stay set. It's a command, not a setting.
Just like Tile Horizontally and Tile Vertically. Click on Cascade, then
look again. There's no check mark, and clicking on it again will simply
cascade the windows again.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...

"Zandro" wrote in message
...
http://www.boomspeed.com/zandro/cascade.png

I want to upgrade my version of IE to the latest in Win98, but every
version
since 5.5 infringes upon my desktop window placements. Usually, I
have all
of
my local windows aligned on top of each other to maximise the amount
of
dimensional space available to do other work. But with the IE
upgrades,
they
are automatically cascading from each other, as if I shouldn't know
how to
alt+tab! Has anyone a solution for me, or will I have to revert back
to
the
last HD image created immediately before the upgrade (an hour ago)?

Right-click on a blank area of the Taskbar.

The pop-up menu offers the "Cascade Windows" option
which you can turn off.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Not in any Windows I've ever seen. Clicking that cascades the open
windows, sure, but it does now stay set. It's a command, not a setting.
Just like Tile Horizontally and Tile Vertically. Click on Cascade, then
look again. There's no check mark, and clicking on it again will simply
cascade the windows again.

If I click on "Undo Cascade" it puts them back
one atop the other, just like they were before ??

Yeah, it does that, but only puts windows that were open when you
clicked Cascade back where the were. Has no effect on other windows that
are subsequently opened, even if they are Normal and open in a cascading
formation, which is the default for Normal windows. If you close all the
windows that were open when you clicked Cascade, the Undo Cascade option
disappears.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Not in any Windows I've ever seen. Clicking that cascades the open
windows, sure, but it does now stay set. It's a command, not a
setting.
Just like Tile Horizontally and Tile Vertically. Click on Cascade,
then
look again. There's no check mark, and clicking on it again will
simply
cascade the windows again.

If I click on "Undo Cascade" it puts them back
one atop the other, just like they were before ??

Thank you for replying. I've read your responses, and know that you are on
top of the ball where 98 is concerned. By your response, I can understand
that there is no solution to this "aggravation," which leads me to another
question. Is there a version of IE 5.0 that I can still download and use? I
seem to have broken my copy, from an otherwise completely successful switch
of the program files directory to another partition.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Yeah, it does that, but only puts windows that were open when you
clicked Cascade back where the were. Has no effect on other windows that
are subsequently opened, even if they are Normal and open in a cascading
formation, which is the default for Normal windows. If you close all the
windows that were open when you clicked Cascade, the Undo Cascade option
disappears.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Not in any Windows I've ever seen. Clicking that cascades the open
windows, sure, but it does now stay set. It's a command, not a
setting.
Just like Tile Horizontally and Tile Vertically. Click on Cascade,
then
look again. There's no check mark, and clicking on it again will
simply
cascade the windows again.

If I click on "Undo Cascade" it puts them back
one atop the other, just like they were before ??

I'm a fan of maximized windows, myself, and I have most of my apps
including Explorer set to open that way. The default behavior for a
"Normal" window in Windows 9x, I *believe* is to open in the same place
and shape as the last instance of that app that you closed. Some
programs are coded to override that, and I'm pretty sure you can use
scripting to launch most apps, including most Windows apps, and set the
position and size. But there's no setting in Windows like you're talking
about, not that I know of.

Now, reading your original post, you speak primarily of IE. If IE is all
you care about, there's one trick that comes to mind: Create a local
html file that opens minimized and contains a New Window command that
opens your Home page. That command is fully customizable as to size and
screen position. With a shortcut to the "trick" IE window, you can click
on the shortcut to your heart's content, and every page launched by that
trick page will open in the same place, same size. I think you can even
code the trick window to close itself. I think, though, that it can be
done more cleanly with plain VB Script.

As for IE 5, I imagine there are copies out there somewhere, but you'd
need the entire fileset, not just the installer stub. You're really
still using IE 5.0? Not even 5.01? Why do you not wish to upgrade? Did
IE 5 always open in the same place for you? Because I'm not aware that
this was ever standard behavior. Is the reason you are interested in the
old version simply because you think that one will do what you want it
to? Always open in a certain place at a certain size?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Zandro" wrote in message
...
Thank you for replying. I've read your responses, and know that you
are on
top of the ball where 98 is concerned. By your response, I can
understand
that there is no solution to this "aggravation," which leads me to
another
question. Is there a version of IE 5.0 that I can still download and
use? I
seem to have broken my copy, from an otherwise completely successful
switch
of the program files directory to another partition.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Yeah, it does that, but only puts windows that were open when you
clicked Cascade back where the were. Has no effect on other windows
that
are subsequently opened, even if they are Normal and open in a
cascading
formation, which is the default for Normal windows. If you close all
the
windows that were open when you clicked Cascade, the Undo Cascade
option
disappears.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Not in any Windows I've ever seen. Clicking that cascades the
open
windows, sure, but it does now stay set. It's a command, not a
setting.
Just like Tile Horizontally and Tile Vertically. Click on
Cascade,
then
look again. There's no check mark, and clicking on it again will
simply
cascade the windows again.

If I click on "Undo Cascade" it puts them back
one atop the other, just like they were before ??

And, before you ask, yes, I'm going to look into some solutions for you
using HTML and/or Scripting. But I'm in the middle of final layout for
the next edition of our publication (the wife and I are the
publishers--in fact, we do everything except actually print the thing.)
What attention I can focus on the project will be as and when I can
afford to take a break from my real work (and only after I'm caught up
on newsgroup activities, playing with the poodles, eating, sleeping,
etc.: IOW, you're going to be rather low priority, s.) If you want me
to contact you if/when I have a solution, email me. My addy here is real
and I actually read the mail that comes in on it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Zandro" wrote in message
...
Thank you for replying. I've read your responses, and know that you
are on
top of the ball where 98 is concerned. By your response, I can
understand
that there is no solution to this "aggravation," which leads me to
another
question. Is there a version of IE 5.0 that I can still download and
use? I
seem to have broken my copy, from an otherwise completely successful
switch
of the program files directory to another partition.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Yeah, it does that, but only puts windows that were open when you
clicked Cascade back where the were. Has no effect on other windows
that
are subsequently opened, even if they are Normal and open in a
cascading
formation, which is the default for Normal windows. If you close all
the
windows that were open when you clicked Cascade, the Undo Cascade
option
disappears.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Not in any Windows I've ever seen. Clicking that cascades the
open
windows, sure, but it does now stay set. It's a command, not a
setting.
Just like Tile Horizontally and Tile Vertically. Click on
Cascade,
then
look again. There's no check mark, and clicking on it again will
simply
cascade the windows again.

If I click on "Undo Cascade" it puts them back
one atop the other, just like they were before ??

Pssst, Gary! Do you think Zandro read BC's posts about using old IE 5 and
Zandro is convinced that it is a good idea to follow BC's advice? ()

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: I'm a fan of maximized windows, myself, and I have most of my apps
: including Explorer set to open that way. The default behavior for a
: "Normal" window in Windows 9x, I *believe* is to open in the same place
: and shape as the last instance of that app that you closed. Some
: programs are coded to override that, and I'm pretty sure you can use
: scripting to launch most apps, including most Windows apps, and set the
: position and size. But there's no setting in Windows like you're talking
: about, not that I know of.
:
: Now, reading your original post, you speak primarily of IE. If IE is all
: you care about, there's one trick that comes to mind: Create a local
: html file that opens minimized and contains a New Window command that
: opens your Home page. That command is fully customizable as to size and
: screen position. With a shortcut to the "trick" IE window, you can click
: on the shortcut to your heart's content, and every page launched by that
: trick page will open in the same place, same size. I think you can even
: code the trick window to close itself. I think, though, that it can be
: done more cleanly with plain VB Script.
:
: As for IE 5, I imagine there are copies out there somewhere, but you'd
: need the entire fileset, not just the installer stub. You're really
: still using IE 5.0? Not even 5.01? Why do you not wish to upgrade? Did
: IE 5 always open in the same place for you? Because I'm not aware that
: this was ever standard behavior. Is the reason you are interested in the
: old version simply because you think that one will do what you want it
: to? Always open in a certain place at a certain size?
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Zandro" wrote in message
: ...
: Thank you for replying. I've read your responses, and know that you
: are on
: top of the ball where 98 is concerned. By your response, I can
: understand
: that there is no solution to this "aggravation," which leads me to
: another
: question. Is there a version of IE 5.0 that I can still download and
: use? I
: seem to have broken my copy, from an otherwise completely successful
: switch
: of the program files directory to another partition.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: Yeah, it does that, but only puts windows that were open when you
: clicked Cascade back where the were. Has no effect on other windows
: that
: are subsequently opened, even if they are Normal and open in a
: cascading
: formation, which is the default for Normal windows. If you close all
: the
: windows that were open when you clicked Cascade, the Undo Cascade
: option
: disappears.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
: ...
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: Not in any Windows I've ever seen. Clicking that cascades the
: open
: windows, sure, but it does now stay set. It's a command, not a
: setting.
: Just like Tile Horizontally and Tile Vertically. Click on
: Cascade,
: then
: look again. There's no check mark, and clicking on it again will
: simply
: cascade the windows again.
:
: If I click on "Undo Cascade" it puts them back
: one atop the other, just like they were before ??
:
:
:
:
:

Actually, no, s. But let's wait an see what Zandro has to say.


--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Dan" wrote in message
...
Pssst, Gary! Do you think Zandro read BC's posts about using old IE 5
and
Zandro is convinced that it is a good idea to follow BC's advice?
()

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: I'm a fan of maximized windows, myself, and I have most of my apps
: including Explorer set to open that way. The default behavior for a
: "Normal" window in Windows 9x, I *believe* is to open in the same
place
: and shape as the last instance of that app that you closed. Some
: programs are coded to override that, and I'm pretty sure you can use
: scripting to launch most apps, including most Windows apps, and set
the
: position and size. But there's no setting in Windows like you're
talking
: about, not that I know of.
:
: Now, reading your original post, you speak primarily of IE. If IE is
all
: you care about, there's one trick that comes to mind: Create a local
: html file that opens minimized and contains a New Window command
that
: opens your Home page. That command is fully customizable as to size
and
: screen position. With a shortcut to the "trick" IE window, you can
click
: on the shortcut to your heart's content, and every page launched by
that
: trick page will open in the same place, same size. I think you can
even
: code the trick window to close itself. I think, though, that it can
be
: done more cleanly with plain VB Script.
:
: As for IE 5, I imagine there are copies out there somewhere, but
you'd
: need the entire fileset, not just the installer stub. You're really
: still using IE 5.0? Not even 5.01? Why do you not wish to upgrade?
Did
: IE 5 always open in the same place for you? Because I'm not aware
that
: this was ever standard behavior. Is the reason you are interested in
the
: old version simply because you think that one will do what you want
it
: to? Always open in a certain place at a certain size?
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Zandro" wrote in message
: ...
: Thank you for replying. I've read your responses, and know that
you
: are on
: top of the ball where 98 is concerned. By your response, I can
: understand
: that there is no solution to this "aggravation," which leads me to
: another
: question. Is there a version of IE 5.0 that I can still download
and
: use? I
: seem to have broken my copy, from an otherwise completely
successful
: switch
: of the program files directory to another partition.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: Yeah, it does that, but only puts windows that were open when
you
: clicked Cascade back where the were. Has no effect on other
windows
: that
: are subsequently opened, even if they are Normal and open in a
: cascading
: formation, which is the default for Normal windows. If you close
all
: the
: windows that were open when you clicked Cascade, the Undo
Cascade
: option
: disappears.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
: ...
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: Not in any Windows I've ever seen. Clicking that cascades
the
: open
: windows, sure, but it does now stay set. It's a command, not
a
: setting.
: Just like Tile Horizontally and Tile Vertically. Click on
: Cascade,
: then
: look again. There's no check mark, and clicking on it again
will
: simply
: cascade the windows again.
:
: If I click on "Undo Cascade" it puts them back
: one atop the other, just like they were before ??
:
:
:
:
: