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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
What is Happening?
This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. Why? As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology and discontinue support for newsgroups. In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the NNTP Bridge he http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more active ones throughout the course of the next six months. When will this Happen? Effective June 1, 2010 this newsgroup will be closed. Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? Microsoft has a large selection of forums, many of which cover either the same or closely related technologies to the ones found in the newsgroups. The forums have seen amazing growth and are an excellent place to continue the discussion. We recommend that you start with http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...WindowsAnswers Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.mspx Who Should I Contact with any Questions? Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
wrote: When will this Happen? Effective June 1, 2010 this newsgroup will be closed. Ah hah! Microsoft did *not* post a similar message in win98.gen_discussion. ....Yet. Your time will come! -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
I'm reading this in Win7, but running (not right this very instant) Win2.03,
WFW3.11, Win95a, Win98se, WinMe, Win2k, and XP three times (having removed Win95b, NT3.51 and NT4.0 as surplus to requirements). Also MS-DOS 5.00 and 6.22 (though haven't put 8.00 back...yet!) and DR-DOS 7.03. Basically I've set it up to demonstrate something of the evolution of the PC OS since Windows for the technically-inquisitive newbie. Users champion a particular Windows version because that was the one they were using when it all fell into place for them and the low-level panic in the background was finally overcome by the relief of understanding what they were doing. And they resisted moving on, like when old age hits and you turn Tory overnight in terror of the unpredicatable future. Thus the 98 groups remain viable, because they have so many shrinking violets still pretending to be engaged in something constructive as opposed to the circle jerk it really is. There is nothing particularly special about 98. Believe me. Signed Whoever I am this week. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... "98 Guy" wrote in message ... wrote: When will this Happen? Effective June 1, 2010 this newsgroup will be closed. Ah hah! Microsoft did *not* post a similar message in win98.gen_discussion. ...Yet. Your time will come! -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
So that's why 98 Guy can't leave his newsgroup, hope he's got a big enough
hanky when the time comes and he loses it g -- Joan Archer http://crossstitcher.webs.com/ "HRH The Example John Smith" wrote in message ... I'm reading this in Win7, but running (not right this very instant) Win2.03, WFW3.11, Win95a, Win98se, WinMe, Win2k, and XP three times (having removed Win95b, NT3.51 and NT4.0 as surplus to requirements). Also MS-DOS 5.00 and 6.22 (though haven't put 8.00 back...yet!) and DR-DOS 7.03. Basically I've set it up to demonstrate something of the evolution of the PC OS since Windows for the technically-inquisitive newbie. Users champion a particular Windows version because that was the one they were using when it all fell into place for them and the low-level panic in the background was finally overcome by the relief of understanding what they were doing. And they resisted moving on, like when old age hits and you turn Tory overnight in terror of the unpredicatable future. Thus the 98 groups remain viable, because they have so many shrinking violets still pretending to be engaged in something constructive as opposed to the circle jerk it really is. There is nothing particularly special about 98. Believe me. Signed Whoever I am this week. |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
"Noel Paton" wrote in message ... "98 Guy" wrote in message ... wrote: When will this Happen? Effective June 1, 2010 this newsgroup will be closed. Ah hah! Microsoft did *not* post a similar message in win98.gen_discussion. ...Yet. Your time will come! That guy is an idiot, you are wasting your time, Noel. H. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
Full-quoter and top-poaster Joan Archer wrote:
So that's why 98 Guy can't leave his newsgroup, hope he's got a big enough hanky when the time comes and he loses it g I guess you don't realize that the microsoft.public set of newsgroups will continue on the world-wide usenet - even after microsoft shuts down it's NNTP server. |
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"webster72n" wrote in message
... That guy is an idiot, you are wasting your time, Noel. H. It's all I have to waste, Harry -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk |
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"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
it's NNTP server. Come back and post that here again when you've learned proper English.... Oh - sorry, you won't be able to, the groups will have closed. In the meantime, MS's closure of their servers may well precipitate a domino effect on the leeches - around two-thirds of the traffic in the groups comes through the MS servers, so once they die, so does two-thirds of the traffic. I don't think many people will bother going elsewhere for NG access, they'll simply go to the forums. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk |
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Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community
Noel Paton wrote:
it's NNTP server. Come back and post that here again when you've learned proper English.... You quoted 2 words and an acronym. What exactly was the problem? Was it my spelling, grammar, or punctuation? Was it the ' I use in "it's" ? Is that the strongest criticism you can deal out to me? Oh - sorry, you won't be able to, the groups will have closed. One server that shuts down does not take the rest of usenet along with it. In the meantime, MS's closure of their servers may well precipitate a domino effect on the leeches It's funny that you call the rest of usenet "leeches". It was Microsoft itself, back in 1996, that exuberantly proclaimed that they were peering themselves with the rest of usenet, with the express intention of improving problem-solving and trouble-shooting accessibility for users. And it's Microsoft that has been peering their NNTP server with the rest of usenet ever since. It's their choice. They wanted it like this. - around two-thirds of the traffic in the groups comes through the MS servers Do you have any authoritative source for that metric? so once they die, so does two-thirds of the traffic. You are assuming that nobody that currently uses Microsoft's web-interface to these groups will start using a news-reader, or that those that do use a news-reader will point it to an alternate server. I would call that an unfounded, even ignorant assumption. I don't think many people will bother going elsewhere for NG access, they'll simply go to the forums. And what of the current forums that Microsoft will not duplicate? IE6? Win 9x/me? This deadline period of June - October 2010 corresponds with the end of all support for Windows 2000 and IE6. My guess is that there will be no new forums created for products that pre-date: - Windows XP SP3 - IE7 - Office 2003 And no forums for - Visual Studio 6 - Back Office - Outlook Express |
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