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Hard Drive Question
I don't think this forum is the appropriate place to ask this question, but
it's where I find the most help. If you don't mind answering, I'd be much abliged, or, could you please tell me where I can go to ask questions like this? It involves Windows 98 because that's the OS, but it's more of a hardware question. I need to replace the C: drive and reinstall Win 98 on a HP Pavilion 6535. All the HP specs say is that it has an Intel 810 chipset (on all my other motherboards, the specs tell me Ultra ATA 100/133, etc. for the IDE interface - so I always know what kind of hard drive to get). So does anyone know how to determine what kind of hard drive to get? Thank you. |
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You want any IDE ATA hard drive. You do *not* want a SCSI or SATA hard
drive. However, I would also recommend that you limit the size of your drive to no more than 120GB, and that you partition the drive so that the OS partition (where you will install Windows 98 to) is no larger than 8GB (8192MB.) Here's how I usually partition a hard drive for Win98/98SE/ME usage. Primary Partition = 8192 MB, Active, OS partition. Unless you are intending to add other OS installations and multi-boot, make the rest of the drive an Extended partition, divvied up as follows: 4096MB--TEMP (You can make some settings adjustments to cause Windows to use D:\TEMP as the TEMP and TMP environment. Also, you can tell IE to put Temporary Internet Files here.) The sizes for the rest of the partitions is a matter of determining what you want to keep there and how much space you expect them to need. Be generous in your calculations, and then add half again as much. (Free space important.) If you have *huge* suites of applications, like MS Office, Adobe Design Suite, Visual Studio, AutoCAD, etc., then create an E:\ partition for these. If it's *only* one of the above, like MS Office, then you can get away with installing that to C:\. Next partition should be for all personal files. You can change the My Documents environment to this partition, for instance. And Outlook Express storage folders, etc. The idea is to keep any personal documents and user-created databases, etc., out of the system, applications or TEMP partitions. Additional partitions can be dedicated to multimedia files (music, pics, video), special work spaces (like for a database project) and storage for downloaded applications. The reason for keeping the system partition to 8GB or less is so that the cluster size will be 4KB. This provides the most efficient arrangement for Win9x systems. Same goes for TEMP. Same goes, really, for most small-file storage like letters, email storage, etc. However, when it comes to large files (music, pics, multimedia, downloaded programs, etc.) the small cluster size is not important, and partitions larger than 8GB are just fine. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Yasoo" wrote in message ... I don't think this forum is the appropriate place to ask this question, but it's where I find the most help. If you don't mind answering, I'd be much abliged, or, could you please tell me where I can go to ask questions like this? It involves Windows 98 because that's the OS, but it's more of a hardware question. I need to replace the C: drive and reinstall Win 98 on a HP Pavilion 6535. All the HP specs say is that it has an Intel 810 chipset (on all my other motherboards, the specs tell me Ultra ATA 100/133, etc. for the IDE interface - so I always know what kind of hard drive to get). So does anyone know how to determine what kind of hard drive to get? Thank you. |
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Gary -
Thank you very much. One thing I was wondering, when you say the reason for the system partition to be 8GB is to provide the most efficient arrangement, what specifically is made more efficient? Use of space, speed of booting, general OS speed, etc? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: You want any IDE ATA hard drive. You do *not* want a SCSI or SATA hard drive. However, I would also recommend that you limit the size of your drive to no more than 120GB, and that you partition the drive so that the OS partition (where you will install Windows 98 to) is no larger than 8GB (8192MB.) Here's how I usually partition a hard drive for Win98/98SE/ME usage. Primary Partition = 8192 MB, Active, OS partition. Unless you are intending to add other OS installations and multi-boot, make the rest of the drive an Extended partition, divvied up as follows: 4096MB--TEMP (You can make some settings adjustments to cause Windows to use D:\TEMP as the TEMP and TMP environment. Also, you can tell IE to put Temporary Internet Files here.) The sizes for the rest of the partitions is a matter of determining what you want to keep there and how much space you expect them to need. Be generous in your calculations, and then add half again as much. (Free space important.) If you have *huge* suites of applications, like MS Office, Adobe Design Suite, Visual Studio, AutoCAD, etc., then create an E:\ partition for these. If it's *only* one of the above, like MS Office, then you can get away with installing that to C:\. Next partition should be for all personal files. You can change the My Documents environment to this partition, for instance. And Outlook Express storage folders, etc. The idea is to keep any personal documents and user-created databases, etc., out of the system, applications or TEMP partitions. Additional partitions can be dedicated to multimedia files (music, pics, video), special work spaces (like for a database project) and storage for downloaded applications. The reason for keeping the system partition to 8GB or less is so that the cluster size will be 4KB. This provides the most efficient arrangement for Win9x systems. Same goes for TEMP. Same goes, really, for most small-file storage like letters, email storage, etc. However, when it comes to large files (music, pics, multimedia, downloaded programs, etc.) the small cluster size is not important, and partitions larger than 8GB are just fine. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Yasoo" wrote in message ... I don't think this forum is the appropriate place to ask this question, but it's where I find the most help. If you don't mind answering, I'd be much abliged, or, could you please tell me where I can go to ask questions like this? It involves Windows 98 because that's the OS, but it's more of a hardware question. I need to replace the C: drive and reinstall Win 98 on a HP Pavilion 6535. All the HP specs say is that it has an Intel 810 chipset (on all my other motherboards, the specs tell me Ultra ATA 100/133, etc. for the IDE interface - so I always know what kind of hard drive to get). So does anyone know how to determine what kind of hard drive to get? Thank you. |
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If the partition size is under 8gb, the default cluster size is 4kb. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=192322 If the cluster size is too big you wind up wasting space with small files and can have a performance hit if your system needs to use the swapfile instead of physical memory. -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm "Yasoo" wrote in message ... Gary - Thank you very much. One thing I was wondering, when you say the reason for the system partition to be 8GB is to provide the most efficient arrangement, what specifically is made more efficient? Use of space, speed of booting, general OS speed, etc? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: You want any IDE ATA hard drive. You do *not* want a SCSI or SATA hard drive. However, I would also recommend that you limit the size of your drive to no more than 120GB, and that you partition the drive so that the OS partition (where you will install Windows 98 to) is no larger than 8GB (8192MB.) Here's how I usually partition a hard drive for Win98/98SE/ME usage. Primary Partition = 8192 MB, Active, OS partition. Unless you are intending to add other OS installations and multi-boot, make the rest of the drive an Extended partition, divvied up as follows: 4096MB--TEMP (You can make some settings adjustments to cause Windows to use D:\TEMP as the TEMP and TMP environment. Also, you can tell IE to put Temporary Internet Files here.) The sizes for the rest of the partitions is a matter of determining what you want to keep there and how much space you expect them to need. Be generous in your calculations, and then add half again as much. (Free space important.) If you have *huge* suites of applications, like MS Office, Adobe Design Suite, Visual Studio, AutoCAD, etc., then create an E:\ partition for these. If it's *only* one of the above, like MS Office, then you can get away with installing that to C:\. Next partition should be for all personal files. You can change the My Documents environment to this partition, for instance. And Outlook Express storage folders, etc. The idea is to keep any personal documents and user-created databases, etc., out of the system, applications or TEMP partitions. Additional partitions can be dedicated to multimedia files (music, pics, video), special work spaces (like for a database project) and storage for downloaded applications. The reason for keeping the system partition to 8GB or less is so that the cluster size will be 4KB. This provides the most efficient arrangement for Win9x systems. Same goes for TEMP. Same goes, really, for most small-file storage like letters, email storage, etc. However, when it comes to large files (music, pics, multimedia, downloaded programs, etc.) the small cluster size is not important, and partitions larger than 8GB are just fine. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Yasoo" wrote in message ... I don't think this forum is the appropriate place to ask this question, but it's where I find the most help. If you don't mind answering, I'd be much abliged, or, could you please tell me where I can go to ask questions like this? It involves Windows 98 because that's the OS, but it's more of a hardware question. I need to replace the C: drive and reinstall Win 98 on a HP Pavilion 6535. All the HP specs say is that it has an Intel 810 chipset (on all my other motherboards, the specs tell me Ultra ATA 100/133, etc. for the IDE interface - so I always know what kind of hard drive to get). So does anyone know how to determine what kind of hard drive to get? Thank you. |
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Ah! I see. Thank you very much, Richard.
"Richard G. Harper" wrote: If the partition size is under 8gb, the default cluster size is 4kb. See: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=192322 If the cluster size is too big you wind up wasting space with small files and can have a performance hit if your system needs to use the swapfile instead of physical memory. -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm "Yasoo" wrote in message ... Gary - Thank you very much. One thing I was wondering, when you say the reason for the system partition to be 8GB is to provide the most efficient arrangement, what specifically is made more efficient? Use of space, speed of booting, general OS speed, etc? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: You want any IDE ATA hard drive. You do *not* want a SCSI or SATA hard drive. However, I would also recommend that you limit the size of your drive to no more than 120GB, and that you partition the drive so that the OS partition (where you will install Windows 98 to) is no larger than 8GB (8192MB.) Here's how I usually partition a hard drive for Win98/98SE/ME usage. Primary Partition = 8192 MB, Active, OS partition. Unless you are intending to add other OS installations and multi-boot, make the rest of the drive an Extended partition, divvied up as follows: 4096MB--TEMP (You can make some settings adjustments to cause Windows to use D:\TEMP as the TEMP and TMP environment. Also, you can tell IE to put Temporary Internet Files here.) The sizes for the rest of the partitions is a matter of determining what you want to keep there and how much space you expect them to need. Be generous in your calculations, and then add half again as much. (Free space important.) If you have *huge* suites of applications, like MS Office, Adobe Design Suite, Visual Studio, AutoCAD, etc., then create an E:\ partition for these. If it's *only* one of the above, like MS Office, then you can get away with installing that to C:\. Next partition should be for all personal files. You can change the My Documents environment to this partition, for instance. And Outlook Express storage folders, etc. The idea is to keep any personal documents and user-created databases, etc., out of the system, applications or TEMP partitions. Additional partitions can be dedicated to multimedia files (music, pics, video), special work spaces (like for a database project) and storage for downloaded applications. The reason for keeping the system partition to 8GB or less is so that the cluster size will be 4KB. This provides the most efficient arrangement for Win9x systems. Same goes for TEMP. Same goes, really, for most small-file storage like letters, email storage, etc. However, when it comes to large files (music, pics, multimedia, downloaded programs, etc.) the small cluster size is not important, and partitions larger than 8GB are just fine. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Yasoo" wrote in message ... I don't think this forum is the appropriate place to ask this question, but it's where I find the most help. If you don't mind answering, I'd be much abliged, or, could you please tell me where I can go to ask questions like this? It involves Windows 98 because that's the OS, but it's more of a hardware question. I need to replace the C: drive and reinstall Win 98 on a HP Pavilion 6535. All the HP specs say is that it has an Intel 810 chipset (on all my other motherboards, the specs tell me Ultra ATA 100/133, etc. for the IDE interface - so I always know what kind of hard drive to get). So does anyone know how to determine what kind of hard drive to get? Thank you. |
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You're welcome.
-- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm "Yasoo" wrote in message ... Ah! I see. Thank you very much, Richard. "Richard G. Harper" wrote: If the partition size is under 8gb, the default cluster size is 4kb. See: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=192322 If the cluster size is too big you wind up wasting space with small files and can have a performance hit if your system needs to use the swapfile instead of physical memory. -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm "Yasoo" wrote in message ... Gary - Thank you very much. One thing I was wondering, when you say the reason for the system partition to be 8GB is to provide the most efficient arrangement, what specifically is made more efficient? Use of space, speed of booting, general OS speed, etc? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: You want any IDE ATA hard drive. You do *not* want a SCSI or SATA hard drive. However, I would also recommend that you limit the size of your drive to no more than 120GB, and that you partition the drive so that the OS partition (where you will install Windows 98 to) is no larger than 8GB (8192MB.) Here's how I usually partition a hard drive for Win98/98SE/ME usage. Primary Partition = 8192 MB, Active, OS partition. Unless you are intending to add other OS installations and multi-boot, make the rest of the drive an Extended partition, divvied up as follows: 4096MB--TEMP (You can make some settings adjustments to cause Windows to use D:\TEMP as the TEMP and TMP environment. Also, you can tell IE to put Temporary Internet Files here.) The sizes for the rest of the partitions is a matter of determining what you want to keep there and how much space you expect them to need. Be generous in your calculations, and then add half again as much. (Free space important.) If you have *huge* suites of applications, like MS Office, Adobe Design Suite, Visual Studio, AutoCAD, etc., then create an E:\ partition for these. If it's *only* one of the above, like MS Office, then you can get away with installing that to C:\. Next partition should be for all personal files. You can change the My Documents environment to this partition, for instance. And Outlook Express storage folders, etc. The idea is to keep any personal documents and user-created databases, etc., out of the system, applications or TEMP partitions. Additional partitions can be dedicated to multimedia files (music, pics, video), special work spaces (like for a database project) and storage for downloaded applications. The reason for keeping the system partition to 8GB or less is so that the cluster size will be 4KB. This provides the most efficient arrangement for Win9x systems. Same goes for TEMP. Same goes, really, for most small-file storage like letters, email storage, etc. However, when it comes to large files (music, pics, multimedia, downloaded programs, etc.) the small cluster size is not important, and partitions larger than 8GB are just fine. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Yasoo" wrote in message ... I don't think this forum is the appropriate place to ask this question, but it's where I find the most help. If you don't mind answering, I'd be much abliged, or, could you please tell me where I can go to ask questions like this? It involves Windows 98 because that's the OS, but it's more of a hardware question. I need to replace the C: drive and reinstall Win 98 on a HP Pavilion 6535. All the HP specs say is that it has an Intel 810 chipset (on all my other motherboards, the specs tell me Ultra ATA 100/133, etc. for the IDE interface - so I always know what kind of hard drive to get). So does anyone know how to determine what kind of hard drive to get? Thank you. |
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The ATA spec of 133 says it will work with any speed ATA currently made.
The chipset, Intel 810, has no real bearing. ATA is, in effect, IDE. So, you need an ide hard drive. The HD capacity limitation is limited by the bios capability And, I agree with Gary's recommendation to stick with something 120GB or less capacity and partition size limit for the OS installation. However, the HP has a restoration CD, does it not for the Win98 install? If so, this may direct the partition size during the installation process. If it just restores the files, it does not, and a partition and format is needed first. "Yasoo" wrote in message ... I don't think this forum is the appropriate place to ask this question, but it's where I find the most help. If you don't mind answering, I'd be much abliged, or, could you please tell me where I can go to ask questions like this? It involves Windows 98 because that's the OS, but it's more of a hardware question. I need to replace the C: drive and reinstall Win 98 on a HP Pavilion 6535. All the HP specs say is that it has an Intel 810 chipset (on all my other motherboards, the specs tell me Ultra ATA 100/133, etc. for the IDE interface - so I always know what kind of hard drive to get). So does anyone know how to determine what kind of hard drive to get? Thank you. |
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