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  #11  
Old July 31st 04, 03:49 PM
Mart
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Default Monitor Problems - typo!!

Ooops..... (or use scanreg to create a backup) should have read (use
scanreg to restore registries and regedit to create backups)

Mart


  #12  
Old July 31st 04, 07:34 PM
Ham
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Default Monitor Problems

Spoke too soon.
It loaded two default monitors after it had been shut down for a while.

Ham.

"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
Well I've just done something that seems to have returned my display
settings to how they were before.

Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY

the
0000 folder was empty: I made it the same as 0001. Then I removed the
monitors from Device Manager in normal mode and chose Add New Hardware -
Windows detected my monitor and a default ( as it was before).

Now under HKLM\Enum\Monitor my monitor is listed directly under monitor

and
not included under Default_Monitor as it was before.

Have I solved my problem!!! I will have to wait and see if it holds.
I'm still confused over all the stuff under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY though.

Ham.


"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
My settings are/have been 800x600 at 85hz and at that I am/was very

happy -
a nice clear, bright display. The default setting pushes it down to

60hz
and its not so bright and a bit flickery.

I have the latest WinMe driver for my card but it isn't WHQL signed -

the
previous driver was but was causing similar problems.

The AOpen card is gone - kaput and thrown away.

I can't help thinking that something else in the registry is sending

wrong
information. I wish I knew more about the workings but my knowledge is
sparse.

The stuff under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY is
particularily confusing - whats all that Nvidia stuff doing there? Why

so
many entries? What's default and glide all about? Is there really a

creator
of the universe? Hey Ho! - Sigh!

Ham.

"Mart" wrote in message
...
My *guess* is that you may just have to live with the default monitor
driver. I seem to remember that in some of my (earlier) WinMe boxes,
monitors were a problem. The pnp wouldn't always enumerate correctly.

I
had
a particular LG monitor that in spite of the 'correct' WinMe driver,

would
eventually return to the default model - and I just lived with it.

Which brings me back to my previous suggestion of turning down the
resolution a notch or two. Confirm that the video driver is WinMe
compatible - try the MS default if necessary or even a Win98 driver.

As a matter of interest, apart from not attaining the desired

settings,
does
the card/monitor give a reasonable display?

What happens if you re-substitute the original AOpen card, does the

correct
monitor driver get detected AND hold as the only monitor?

Mart



"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
I have tried doing this and just tried again - the problem persists.
Windows detects the Display Adapter drivers, installs and asks to

reboot,
then loads again and detects default monitors.

Looking at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR, after having removed the
Monitors from Device Manager, it is empty as it is under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor.

After reboot under HKLM\Enum\MONITOR there is a sub folder labelled
DEFAULT_MONITOR and within that folder there are two mo one

labelled
0001
and containing info on my monitor (after I've updated the driver in
Display
Properties) and the other labelled
PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_5D44&SUBSYS_9A291509&REV_01_01080 0 containing info

on
the
remaining default monitor.

With the Display Adapter removed the listing under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY

is
the
same apart from the folders 0011 and 0012 which are gone and return

after
reboot.

Ham.


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Try this first - it should help clear the registry out a little.

Reboot to Safe Mode
Open Device Manager
Remove ALL Display Adapters
Remove ALL Monitors
Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required

drivers -
hopefully curing your problem.



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages

to
NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Just a couple of thoughts, maybe your video card isn't capable

of
a
higher
refresh rate at whatever the screen/colour resolution that you

are
trying
to
attain.

Try reducing the screen size by one or two settings and see if

that
helps.

Mart


"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately I don't have access to another monitor.
The monitor driver I have is from the manufacturer and is for

Wimme.
I
tried
deleting the .inf file but no help - windows detects new

hardware
and
loads
2 default monitors, I update the driver of the main one and

either
more
default monitors load at next reboot or display properties

wont
let
me
increase the refresh rate even though my monitor is named

correctly
in
display properties.

Ham


"Mart" wrote in message
...
........ Booting into safe mode and
deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem.

Odd, as your registry 'appears' to still show 'numerous'

(12?)
monitors
enumerated. Just wonder if the re-boot is pulling an 'old'
registry
back
somehow.

Can you temporally substitute with another monitor until you

get
a
'stable'
registry?

Have a look in your Windows\inf\others folder for monitor

driver
.inf
files
and delete (or rename) them. Then let the plug'n'play

redetect.

Have you tried the (monitor) manufacturers web site for

WinMe
drivers?

Mart


"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
I have been having some ongoing problems with my monitor
reseting
to
a
lower
refresh rate and extra default monitors loading. Booting

into
safe
mode
and
deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem. I did a

search
in
Google
Groups and found a suggestion to delete everything in the
registry
under
monitor in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR,

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor
and
everything under display in

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY.

I tried this along with uninstalling and reinstalling the

video
card
and
monitor drivers but then I just kept getting default

monitors
loading
and
much the same problems. I'm thinking that there must be
something
else
in
the registry or somewhere else sending wrong information.

I have a CTX monitor and an ATI Radeon 9200se

card.(Previously
I
had
an
AOpen Nvidia based card). There are muliple listings in

the
registry
under
monitor and display.

I would appreaciate any help from someone with more

knowledge
about
the
registry than myself.

PS. I did backup the registry before making changes and,

when
they
didn't
help, restored it again.

Below is the text from the exported registry files.

TIA,
Ham.

following snipped to reduce bandwidth














  #13  
Old July 31st 04, 08:00 PM
Mart
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Monitor Problems

Ham, have you had a look at the ATI site for drivers?
http://www.atitech.ca/

Follow the 'Drivers & Software' tab prompts and you will find that there are
'issues' with the Radeon WinMe drivers, CATALYST 4.3 (and others?) being
substituted.

Might be worth a play with some of those on offer.

I still think it's a video card issue rather than a monitor problem g Good
luck

Mart



"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
Spoke too soon.
It loaded two default monitors after it had been shut down for a while.

Ham.

"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
Well I've just done something that seems to have returned my display
settings to how they were before.

Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY

the
0000 folder was empty: I made it the same as 0001. Then I removed the
monitors from Device Manager in normal mode and chose Add New Hardware -
Windows detected my monitor and a default ( as it was before).

Now under HKLM\Enum\Monitor my monitor is listed directly under monitor

and
not included under Default_Monitor as it was before.

Have I solved my problem!!! I will have to wait and see if it holds.
I'm still confused over all the stuff under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY

though.

Ham.


"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
My settings are/have been 800x600 at 85hz and at that I am/was very

happy -
a nice clear, bright display. The default setting pushes it down to

60hz
and its not so bright and a bit flickery.

I have the latest WinMe driver for my card but it isn't WHQL signed -

the
previous driver was but was causing similar problems.

The AOpen card is gone - kaput and thrown away.

I can't help thinking that something else in the registry is sending

wrong
information. I wish I knew more about the workings but my knowledge

is
sparse.

The stuff under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY is
particularily confusing - whats all that Nvidia stuff doing there? Why

so
many entries? What's default and glide all about? Is there really a

creator
of the universe? Hey Ho! - Sigh!

Ham.

"Mart" wrote in message
...
My *guess* is that you may just have to live with the default

monitor
driver. I seem to remember that in some of my (earlier) WinMe boxes,
monitors were a problem. The pnp wouldn't always enumerate

correctly.
I
had
a particular LG monitor that in spite of the 'correct' WinMe driver,

would
eventually return to the default model - and I just lived with it.

Which brings me back to my previous suggestion of turning down the
resolution a notch or two. Confirm that the video driver is WinMe
compatible - try the MS default if necessary or even a Win98 driver.

As a matter of interest, apart from not attaining the desired

settings,
does
the card/monitor give a reasonable display?

What happens if you re-substitute the original AOpen card, does the
correct
monitor driver get detected AND hold as the only monitor?

Mart



"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
I have tried doing this and just tried again - the problem

persists.
Windows detects the Display Adapter drivers, installs and asks to
reboot,
then loads again and detects default monitors.

Looking at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR, after having removed

the
Monitors from Device Manager, it is empty as it is under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor.

After reboot under HKLM\Enum\MONITOR there is a sub folder

labelled
DEFAULT_MONITOR and within that folder there are two mo one

labelled
0001
and containing info on my monitor (after I've updated the driver

in
Display
Properties) and the other labelled
PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_5D44&SUBSYS_9A291509&REV_01_01080 0 containing

info
on
the
remaining default monitor.

With the Display Adapter removed the listing under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY

is
the
same apart from the folders 0011 and 0012 which are gone and

return
after
reboot.

Ham.


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Try this first - it should help clear the registry out a little.

Reboot to Safe Mode
Open Device Manager
Remove ALL Display Adapters
Remove ALL Monitors
Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required

drivers -
hopefully curing your problem.



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post

messages
to
NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Just a couple of thoughts, maybe your video card isn't capable

of
a
higher
refresh rate at whatever the screen/colour resolution that you

are
trying
to
attain.

Try reducing the screen size by one or two settings and see if

that
helps.

Mart


"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately I don't have access to another monitor.
The monitor driver I have is from the manufacturer and is

for
Wimme.
I
tried
deleting the .inf file but no help - windows detects new

hardware
and
loads
2 default monitors, I update the driver of the main one and

either
more
default monitors load at next reboot or display properties

wont
let
me
increase the refresh rate even though my monitor is named
correctly
in
display properties.

Ham


"Mart" wrote in message
...
........ Booting into safe mode and
deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem.

Odd, as your registry 'appears' to still show 'numerous'

(12?)
monitors
enumerated. Just wonder if the re-boot is pulling an 'old'
registry
back
somehow.

Can you temporally substitute with another monitor until

you
get
a
'stable'
registry?

Have a look in your Windows\inf\others folder for monitor

driver
.inf
files
and delete (or rename) them. Then let the plug'n'play

redetect.

Have you tried the (monitor) manufacturers web site for

WinMe
drivers?

Mart


"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in

message
...
I have been having some ongoing problems with my monitor
reseting
to
a
lower
refresh rate and extra default monitors loading.

Booting
into
safe
mode
and
deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem. I did

a
search
in
Google
Groups and found a suggestion to delete everything in

the
registry
under
monitor in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR,

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor
and
everything under display in


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY.

I tried this along with uninstalling and reinstalling

the
video
card
and
monitor drivers but then I just kept getting default

monitors
loading
and
much the same problems. I'm thinking that there must be
something
else
in
the registry or somewhere else sending wrong

information.

I have a CTX monitor and an ATI Radeon 9200se

card.(Previously
I
had
an
AOpen Nvidia based card). There are muliple listings in

the
registry
under
monitor and display.

I would appreaciate any help from someone with more

knowledge
about
the
registry than myself.

PS. I did backup the registry before making changes and,

when
they
didn't
help, restored it again.

Below is the text from the exported registry files.

TIA,
Ham.

following snipped to reduce bandwidth
















  #14  
Old August 1st 04, 12:38 PM
Ham
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Monitor Problems

Thanks Mart. I'll try a different driver and see if it helps - mine's a 4.3
which I only downloaded a short time ago. Now I see they have a 4.7 - I'll
give that a try and failing that I will go back to the original one that
came with the card. That had a few issues but wasn't giving me as much
trouble as the 4.3 seems to be doing.

Ham.

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ham, have you had a look at the ATI site for drivers?
http://www.atitech.ca/

Follow the 'Drivers & Software' tab prompts and you will find that there

are
'issues' with the Radeon WinMe drivers, CATALYST 4.3 (and others?) being
substituted.

Might be worth a play with some of those on offer.

I still think it's a video card issue rather than a monitor problem g

Good
luck

Mart



"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
Spoke too soon.
It loaded two default monitors after it had been shut down for a while.

Ham.

"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
Well I've just done something that seems to have returned my display
settings to how they were before.

Under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY
the
0000 folder was empty: I made it the same as 0001. Then I removed the
monitors from Device Manager in normal mode and chose Add New

Hardware -
Windows detected my monitor and a default ( as it was before).

Now under HKLM\Enum\Monitor my monitor is listed directly under

monitor
and
not included under Default_Monitor as it was before.

Have I solved my problem!!! I will have to wait and see if it holds.
I'm still confused over all the stuff under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY

though.

Ham.


"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
My settings are/have been 800x600 at 85hz and at that I am/was very
happy -
a nice clear, bright display. The default setting pushes it down to

60hz
and its not so bright and a bit flickery.

I have the latest WinMe driver for my card but it isn't WHQL

signed -
the
previous driver was but was causing similar problems.

The AOpen card is gone - kaput and thrown away.

I can't help thinking that something else in the registry is sending

wrong
information. I wish I knew more about the workings but my knowledge

is
sparse.

The stuff under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY

is
particularily confusing - whats all that Nvidia stuff doing there?

Why
so
many entries? What's default and glide all about? Is there really a
creator
of the universe? Hey Ho! - Sigh!

Ham.

"Mart" wrote in message
...
My *guess* is that you may just have to live with the default

monitor
driver. I seem to remember that in some of my (earlier) WinMe

boxes,
monitors were a problem. The pnp wouldn't always enumerate

correctly.
I
had
a particular LG monitor that in spite of the 'correct' WinMe

driver,
would
eventually return to the default model - and I just lived with it.

Which brings me back to my previous suggestion of turning down the
resolution a notch or two. Confirm that the video driver is WinMe
compatible - try the MS default if necessary or even a Win98

driver.

As a matter of interest, apart from not attaining the desired

settings,
does
the card/monitor give a reasonable display?

What happens if you re-substitute the original AOpen card, does

the
correct
monitor driver get detected AND hold as the only monitor?

Mart



"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
I have tried doing this and just tried again - the problem

persists.
Windows detects the Display Adapter drivers, installs and asks

to
reboot,
then loads again and detects default monitors.

Looking at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR, after having removed

the
Monitors from Device Manager, it is empty as it is under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor.

After reboot under HKLM\Enum\MONITOR there is a sub folder

labelled
DEFAULT_MONITOR and within that folder there are two mo one
labelled
0001
and containing info on my monitor (after I've updated the driver

in
Display
Properties) and the other labelled
PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_5D44&SUBSYS_9A291509&REV_01_01080 0 containing

info
on
the
remaining default monitor.

With the Display Adapter removed the listing under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY
is
the
same apart from the folders 0011 and 0012 which are gone and

return
after
reboot.

Ham.


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Try this first - it should help clear the registry out a

little.

Reboot to Safe Mode
Open Device Manager
Remove ALL Display Adapters
Remove ALL Monitors
Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required
drivers -
hopefully curing your problem.



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post

messages
to
NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Just a couple of thoughts, maybe your video card isn't

capable
of
a
higher
refresh rate at whatever the screen/colour resolution that

you
are
trying
to
attain.

Try reducing the screen size by one or two settings and see

if
that
helps.

Mart


"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message
...
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately I don't have access to another monitor.
The monitor driver I have is from the manufacturer and is

for
Wimme.
I
tried
deleting the .inf file but no help - windows detects new
hardware
and
loads
2 default monitors, I update the driver of the main one

and
either
more
default monitors load at next reboot or display properties

wont
let
me
increase the refresh rate even though my monitor is named
correctly
in
display properties.

Ham


"Mart" wrote in message
...
........ Booting into safe mode and
deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem.

Odd, as your registry 'appears' to still show 'numerous'

(12?)
monitors
enumerated. Just wonder if the re-boot is pulling an

'old'
registry
back
somehow.

Can you temporally substitute with another monitor until

you
get
a
'stable'
registry?

Have a look in your Windows\inf\others folder for

monitor
driver
.inf
files
and delete (or rename) them. Then let the plug'n'play
redetect.

Have you tried the (monitor) manufacturers web site for

WinMe
drivers?

Mart


"Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in

message
...
I have been having some ongoing problems with my

monitor
reseting
to
a
lower
refresh rate and extra default monitors loading.

Booting
into
safe
mode
and
deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem. I

did
a
search
in
Google
Groups and found a suggestion to delete everything in

the
registry
under
monitor in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR,

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor
and
everything under display in


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY.

I tried this along with uninstalling and reinstalling

the
video
card
and
monitor drivers but then I just kept getting default
monitors
loading
and
much the same problems. I'm thinking that there must

be
something
else
in
the registry or somewhere else sending wrong

information.

I have a CTX monitor and an ATI Radeon 9200se
card.(Previously
I
had
an
AOpen Nvidia based card). There are muliple listings

in
the
registry
under
monitor and display.

I would appreaciate any help from someone with more
knowledge
about
the
registry than myself.

PS. I did backup the registry before making changes

and,
when
they
didn't
help, restored it again.

Below is the text from the exported registry files.

TIA,
Ham.

following snipped to reduce bandwidth


















 




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