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Problem - Computer cannot access internet (well not exactly.....)!.
I have the following situation and it's driving me nuts!! Any suggestions would be most welcome. Configuration: Wireless home network; 1 laptop running WinXP, 2 desktops running Win98SE. All local communication good and one WinXP and one Win98SE perform everything OK.....BUT I have one Win98SE desktop that runs fine EXCEPT that it exhibits the following behaviour: 1 - sharing: even though the other two computers can see this PC OK on network neighbourhood, they cannot access any resources on it even though everything is set properly. This computer can see the local workgroup through network neighbourhood and access resources on the other two computers. 2 - When copying files from or to it from one of the other two computers (using explorer drag and drop) it is incredibly slow! 3 - internet access - even though the the other two computers on the netowrk can access the internet just fine, this one can never reach a web page. It does seem to get the typed url resolved to the IP address OK, but never is able to display the web page. I have tried IE6, Opera, and Firefox with same result. I have tried with and without various different software firewalls. I have swapped the two wireless network cards between the two Win98SE computers and the problem persists, so I don't think the card is the problem. I can ping a url OK from this computer. I can ping this comnputer from either of the other two on the home network. Any ideas please? |
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Len wrote:
I have the following situation and it's driving me nuts!! Any suggestions would be most welcome. Configuration: Wireless home network; 1 laptop running WinXP, 2 desktops running Win98SE. All local communication good and one WinXP and one Win98SE perform everything OK.....BUT I have one Win98SE desktop that runs fine EXCEPT that it exhibits the following behaviour: 1 - sharing: even though the other two computers can see this PC OK on network neighbourhood, they cannot access any resources on it even though everything is set properly. This computer can see the local workgroup through network neighbourhood and access resources on the other two computers. 2 - When copying files from or to it from one of the other two computers (using explorer drag and drop) it is incredibly slow! 3 - internet access - even though the the other two computers on the netowrk can access the internet just fine, this one can never reach a web page. It does seem to get the typed url resolved to the IP address OK, but never is able to display the web page. I have tried IE6, Opera, and Firefox with same result. I have tried with and without various different software firewalls. I have swapped the two wireless network cards between the two Win98SE computers and the problem persists, so I don't think the card is the problem. I can ping a url OK from this computer. I can ping this comnputer from either of the other two on the home network. Any ideas please? First idea is to post your question once, in one group. OK? Next, start easy... Turn off the software firewalls in the computers. Your router should have a hardware (firmware) built-in. Test for LAN function. Choose ONE of the computers that you wish to designate as the "big kahuna" LAN server computer. This is best selected as the computer which is on all, or most of the time. This computer will become your default, "MASTER" Browse Master. While designating the XP machine as the "master" which is what I see recommended, my six machine system works just fine with a Win98SE kahuna. Which ever machine you want to designate as the "master," set that machine's Browse Master function to ENABLED. Setting the browse master:In Win98 you do this in the Network File and Print Sharing properties. In XP you do this through control panel | administrative tools | Services | Computer Browser. Set to the status you choose. I suggest that the "master" be set to ENABLED and the others be set to DISABLED. This configuration has a benefit and a deficit. The benefit is that one computer controls the LAN and eliminates what Microsoft calls "a network storm," meaning it prevents multiple computers from fighting over which is in charge, which is some contests, has one computer hiding from another for LAN functions (not ping functions). The downside is that if the big kahuna goes off-line, the browse master disabled machines become isolated from the LAN, and in fact, won't even see their own workgroup settings from their own file manager. The Browse Master default setting is AUTOMATIC, which in theory allows another machine to automatically take over as the "master" browse master and maintain the integrity of the LAN if the first big kahuna goes off line. But, there can be a battle over which is in charge as the computers vie to be in charge (hold an "election") with the winner being at the top of a "pecking order," starting with the XP, then Win2000 then Win98, as long as all the machines came on line at the same time. But, once the "master" Browse Master goes off line, the LAN will network storm, and there could be isolation if two machines both declare themselves "master." Therefore, I recommend shutting off AUTOMATIC even though it can maintain LAN integrity, sometimes. Compare the network NIC TCP/P, Client for Microsoft Network settings and File and Printer properties between the Win98s and make sure they are the same (except the browse master setting if you choose one Win98 as the kahuna). If you are using WEP, insure that the codes are the same for each wifi machine. If you use passwords, make sure all three machines have the same usernames and passwords as one of the users. Turn OFF all your computers. Turn off (NOT reset), the WiFi router and the broadband modem. Bring the router and the modem back up, one at a time, after waiting one minute. Next, bring up the designated "master" computer. After windows is finished loading, bring up the next machine, after that is ready, bring up the last machine. Be aware that Microsoft says it can take up to 15 minutes for the LAN to establish itself. If this does not work, report back. |
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Problem - Computer cannot access internet (well not exactly.....)!.
Len wrote:
I have the following situation and it's driving me nuts!! Any suggestions would be most welcome. Configuration: Wireless home network; 1 laptop running WinXP, 2 desktops running Win98SE. All local communication good and one WinXP and one Win98SE perform everything OK.....BUT I have one Win98SE desktop that runs fine EXCEPT that it exhibits the following behaviour: 1 - sharing: even though the other two computers can see this PC OK on network neighbourhood, they cannot access any resources on it even though everything is set properly. This computer can see the local workgroup through network neighbourhood and access resources on the other two computers. 2 - When copying files from or to it from one of the other two computers (using explorer drag and drop) it is incredibly slow! 3 - internet access - even though the the other two computers on the netowrk can access the internet just fine, this one can never reach a web page. It does seem to get the typed url resolved to the IP address OK, but never is able to display the web page. I have tried IE6, Opera, and Firefox with same result. I have tried with and without various different software firewalls. I have swapped the two wireless network cards between the two Win98SE computers and the problem persists, so I don't think the card is the problem. I can ping a url OK from this computer. I can ping this comnputer from either of the other two on the home network. Any ideas please? First idea is to post your question once, in one group. OK? Next, start easy... Turn off the software firewalls in the computers. Your router should have a hardware (firmware) built-in. Test for LAN function. Choose ONE of the computers that you wish to designate as the "big kahuna" LAN server computer. This is best selected as the computer which is on all, or most of the time. This computer will become your default, "MASTER" Browse Master. While designating the XP machine as the "master" which is what I see recommended, my six machine system works just fine with a Win98SE kahuna. Which ever machine you want to designate as the "master," set that machine's Browse Master function to ENABLED. Setting the browse master:In Win98 you do this in the Network File and Print Sharing properties. In XP you do this through control panel | administrative tools | Services | Computer Browser. Set to the status you choose. I suggest that the "master" be set to ENABLED and the others be set to DISABLED. This configuration has a benefit and a deficit. The benefit is that one computer controls the LAN and eliminates what Microsoft calls "a network storm," meaning it prevents multiple computers from fighting over which is in charge, which is some contests, has one computer hiding from another for LAN functions (not ping functions). The downside is that if the big kahuna goes off-line, the browse master disabled machines become isolated from the LAN, and in fact, won't even see their own workgroup settings from their own file manager. The Browse Master default setting is AUTOMATIC, which in theory allows another machine to automatically take over as the "master" browse master and maintain the integrity of the LAN if the first big kahuna goes off line. But, there can be a battle over which is in charge as the computers vie to be in charge (hold an "election") with the winner being at the top of a "pecking order," starting with the XP, then Win2000 then Win98, as long as all the machines came on line at the same time. But, once the "master" Browse Master goes off line, the LAN will network storm, and there could be isolation if two machines both declare themselves "master." Therefore, I recommend shutting off AUTOMATIC even though it can maintain LAN integrity, sometimes. Compare the network NIC TCP/P, Client for Microsoft Network settings and File and Printer properties between the Win98s and make sure they are the same (except the browse master setting if you choose one Win98 as the kahuna). If you are using WEP, insure that the codes are the same for each wifi machine. If you use passwords, make sure all three machines have the same usernames and passwords as one of the users. Turn OFF all your computers. Turn off (NOT reset), the WiFi router and the broadband modem. Bring the router and the modem back up, one at a time, after waiting one minute. Next, bring up the designated "master" computer. After windows is finished loading, bring up the next machine, after that is ready, bring up the last machine. Be aware that Microsoft says it can take up to 15 minutes for the LAN to establish itself. If this does not work, report back. |
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Hi
In General you can debug the Network Setting of the computer following these steps.[/ Step One. Check the Network parameters in the Computer's Device Manager. Make sure that the drivers are installed correctly; there is No IRQ conflict, and No Ghost installation. http://www.ezlan.net/faq#ghost Step Two Verify Basic network setting in the OS: http://www.ezlan.net/Installing#verify If the above two Steps indicates that every thing looks good but functionally it does not work. Step Three. Check (and repair if necessary) the Socket Layers, Winsock, and or refresh the TCP/IP Stack. http://www.ezlan.net/clean#refreshnet If need to Reinstall; Log to this page it have a lot of links to instructions for Windows Network Installation - http://www.ezlan.net/Installing.html Jack (MVP-Networking). "Len" wrote in message oups.com... I have the following situation and it's driving me nuts!! Any suggestions would be most welcome. Configuration: Wireless home network; 1 laptop running WinXP, 2 desktops running Win98SE. All local communication good and one WinXP and one Win98SE perform everything OK.....BUT I have one Win98SE desktop that runs fine EXCEPT that it exhibits the following behaviour: 1 - sharing: even though the other two computers can see this PC OK on network neighbourhood, they cannot access any resources on it even though everything is set properly. This computer can see the local workgroup through network neighbourhood and access resources on the other two computers. 2 - When copying files from or to it from one of the other two computers (using explorer drag and drop) it is incredibly slow! 3 - internet access - even though the the other two computers on the netowrk can access the internet just fine, this one can never reach a web page. It does seem to get the typed url resolved to the IP address OK, but never is able to display the web page. I have tried IE6, Opera, and Firefox with same result. I have tried with and without various different software firewalls. I have swapped the two wireless network cards between the two Win98SE computers and the problem persists, so I don't think the card is the problem. I can ping a url OK from this computer. I can ping this comnputer from either of the other two on the home network. Any ideas please? |
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Problem - Computer cannot access internet (well not exactly.....)!.
Hi
In General you can debug the Network Setting of the computer following these steps.[/ Step One. Check the Network parameters in the Computer's Device Manager. Make sure that the drivers are installed correctly; there is No IRQ conflict, and No Ghost installation. http://www.ezlan.net/faq#ghost Step Two Verify Basic network setting in the OS: http://www.ezlan.net/Installing#verify If the above two Steps indicates that every thing looks good but functionally it does not work. Step Three. Check (and repair if necessary) the Socket Layers, Winsock, and or refresh the TCP/IP Stack. http://www.ezlan.net/clean#refreshnet If need to Reinstall; Log to this page it have a lot of links to instructions for Windows Network Installation - http://www.ezlan.net/Installing.html Jack (MVP-Networking). "Len" wrote in message oups.com... I have the following situation and it's driving me nuts!! Any suggestions would be most welcome. Configuration: Wireless home network; 1 laptop running WinXP, 2 desktops running Win98SE. All local communication good and one WinXP and one Win98SE perform everything OK.....BUT I have one Win98SE desktop that runs fine EXCEPT that it exhibits the following behaviour: 1 - sharing: even though the other two computers can see this PC OK on network neighbourhood, they cannot access any resources on it even though everything is set properly. This computer can see the local workgroup through network neighbourhood and access resources on the other two computers. 2 - When copying files from or to it from one of the other two computers (using explorer drag and drop) it is incredibly slow! 3 - internet access - even though the the other two computers on the netowrk can access the internet just fine, this one can never reach a web page. It does seem to get the typed url resolved to the IP address OK, but never is able to display the web page. I have tried IE6, Opera, and Firefox with same result. I have tried with and without various different software firewalls. I have swapped the two wireless network cards between the two Win98SE computers and the problem persists, so I don't think the card is the problem. I can ping a url OK from this computer. I can ping this comnputer from either of the other two on the home network. Any ideas please? |
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Thanks for the reply - I thought multiple group posts would increase
the chances of help! Guess it's not good netiquette? I have done everything you suggested in the order above. I had already covered much of it, especially the Browse Master issues. However, I am no further forward. The symptoms are still exactly as described. Any other suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks, Len |
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Problem - Computer cannot access internet (well not exactly.....)!.
Thanks for the reply - I thought multiple group posts would increase
the chances of help! Guess it's not good netiquette? I have done everything you suggested in the order above. I had already covered much of it, especially the Browse Master issues. However, I am no further forward. The symptoms are still exactly as described. Any other suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks, Len |
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Thank you for the reply.
I have tried what you suggested above but without success. Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks, Len |
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Problem - Computer cannot access internet (well not exactly.....)!.
Thank you for the reply.
I have tried what you suggested above but without success. Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks, Len |
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Len wrote:
Thanks for the reply - I thought multiple group posts would increase the chances of help! Guess it's not good netiquette? I have done everything you suggested in the order above. I had already covered much of it, especially the Browse Master issues. However, I am no further forward. The symptoms are still exactly as described. Any other suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks, Len Try designating a different computer as Browse Master ENABLED and DISABLE the others. Rebuild the network: As long as you have the NIC software/driver install disk, try removing via Control Panel | Network. the TCP/IP protocol for the NIC and then remove the NIC itself from networks. Remove File and Printer Sharing. Do not reboot. Remove the NIC from the Control Panel System Hardware Device Manager. Reboot. Windows should find the NIC and reinstall it. If not, run Find New Hardware from Add New Hardware or use the NIC install disk. Re-set up your network protocol using only TCP/IP and no other. Make sure Browse Master is as you want it designated, and the the File and Printer sharing service is Added and present. Report back. |
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