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  #81  
Old June 19th 07, 04:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
98 Guy
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

ssome wrote:

OK, here it is
it can't be done w/o MSoft updating 98 SE

98 simply does not 'see' beyond 120 GB, non addressable.


You are wrong. I've installed 98se on a 160 gb SATA hard drive,
formatted as a single partition, with 4 kb cluster size (resulting in
40 million clusters, way beyond the stated maximum of 4.17 million
clusters).

You are right about windows defrag and scandisk - but you can get the
windows-me versions of those and they work just fine on win-98.

Dos scandisk works ok as well on a 160 gb drive.

Once I installed win-98 on a 160 gb drive, I repeatedly copied a 40-gb
directory tree containing 1 gb DVD vob files until I filled the
drive. So I want past the 128gb point on the drive and no corruption
occurred. This is because the drive was attached to SATA port-0 and
controlled by the on-board SATA controller and NOT re-mapped as an IDE
drive.

If Win-98se is using it's native ESDI_506.PDR to control your hard
drive, then you can't use a drive larger than 128 gb. That means any
IDE drive larger than 128 gb won't work unless you obtain a modified
ESDI_506.PDR. If you have a SATA drive, then the drive must be used
in "SATA" or "RaID" mode, not re-mapped as an IDE drive.
  #82  
Old June 19th 07, 07:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
ssome
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

it was IDE
and i do have problems
i did uninstall a couple of free trials of video editing s/w
i have the win Me defrag and it doesn't work with the 250, Western Digital
i did use their s/w to format the HD beyond 120 GB
the DOS scandisk does seem to work, more complete testing needed
i have win 98 SE installed on a 80 GB HD, the 250 is for data.
so, where do we get a modified ESDI_506.PDR?
i've scanned many times for a vir*us


"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

OK, here it is
it can't be done w/o MSoft updating 98 SE

98 simply does not 'see' beyond 120 GB, non addressable.


You are wrong. I've installed 98se on a 160 gb SATA hard drive,
formatted as a single partition, with 4 kb cluster size (resulting in
40 million clusters, way beyond the stated maximum of 4.17 million
clusters).

You are right about windows defrag and scandisk - but you can get the
windows-me versions of those and they work just fine on win-98.

Dos scandisk works ok as well on a 160 gb drive.

Once I installed win-98 on a 160 gb drive, I repeatedly copied a 40-gb
directory tree containing 1 gb DVD vob files until I filled the
drive. So I want past the 128gb point on the drive and no corruption
occurred. This is because the drive was attached to SATA port-0 and
controlled by the on-board SATA controller and NOT re-mapped as an IDE
drive.

If Win-98se is using it's native ESDI_506.PDR to control your hard
drive, then you can't use a drive larger than 128 gb. That means any
IDE drive larger than 128 gb won't work unless you obtain a modified
ESDI_506.PDR. If you have a SATA drive, then the drive must be used
in "SATA" or "RaID" mode, not re-mapped as an IDE drive.



  #83  
Old June 19th 07, 07:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
ssome
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Posts: 85
Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

it was IDE
and i do have problems
i did uninstall a couple of free trials of video editing s/w
i have the win Me defrag and it doesn't work with the 250, Western Digital
i did use their s/w to format the HD beyond 120 GB
the DOS scandisk does seem to work, more complete testing needed
i have win 98 SE installed on a 80 GB HD, the 250 is for data.
so, where do we get a modified ESDI_506.PDR?
i've scanned many times for a vir*us


"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

OK, here it is
it can't be done w/o MSoft updating 98 SE

98 simply does not 'see' beyond 120 GB, non addressable.


You are wrong. I've installed 98se on a 160 gb SATA hard drive,
formatted as a single partition, with 4 kb cluster size (resulting in
40 million clusters, way beyond the stated maximum of 4.17 million
clusters).

You are right about windows defrag and scandisk - but you can get the
windows-me versions of those and they work just fine on win-98.

Dos scandisk works ok as well on a 160 gb drive.

Once I installed win-98 on a 160 gb drive, I repeatedly copied a 40-gb
directory tree containing 1 gb DVD vob files until I filled the
drive. So I want past the 128gb point on the drive and no corruption
occurred. This is because the drive was attached to SATA port-0 and
controlled by the on-board SATA controller and NOT re-mapped as an IDE
drive.

If Win-98se is using it's native ESDI_506.PDR to control your hard
drive, then you can't use a drive larger than 128 gb. That means any
IDE drive larger than 128 gb won't work unless you obtain a modified
ESDI_506.PDR. If you have a SATA drive, then the drive must be used
in "SATA" or "RaID" mode, not re-mapped as an IDE drive.



  #84  
Old June 20th 07, 12:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
98 Guy
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

ssome wrote:

it was IDE
and i do have problems


Rename your esdi_506.pdr to esdi_506.pd_.

It is located in c:\windows\system\iosubsys.

You will then be able to work with a 250 gb IDE drive. But you will
be doing so in 16-bit, DOS-compatability mode.

i have the win Me defrag and it doesn't work with the 250,
Western Digital


You need to obtain the windows-ME version of dskmaint.dll.

You shouldn't run any drive tools on an IDE drive larger than 128 gb
until you solve the ESDI_506.PDR situation.

so, where do we get a modified ESDI_506.PDR?
i've scanned many times for a vir*us


First, read this:

http://www.msfn.org/board/Enable48Bi...er_t78592.html

Then download a modified esdi_506.PDR from he

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...604/readme.txt
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4001111F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4001119F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102001F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102186F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102222F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102225F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102226F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4903000F.ZIP
  #85  
Old June 20th 07, 12:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
98 Guy
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

ssome wrote:

it was IDE
and i do have problems


Rename your esdi_506.pdr to esdi_506.pd_.

It is located in c:\windows\system\iosubsys.

You will then be able to work with a 250 gb IDE drive. But you will
be doing so in 16-bit, DOS-compatability mode.

i have the win Me defrag and it doesn't work with the 250,
Western Digital


You need to obtain the windows-ME version of dskmaint.dll.

You shouldn't run any drive tools on an IDE drive larger than 128 gb
until you solve the ESDI_506.PDR situation.

so, where do we get a modified ESDI_506.PDR?
i've scanned many times for a vir*us


First, read this:

http://www.msfn.org/board/Enable48Bi...er_t78592.html

Then download a modified esdi_506.PDR from he

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...604/readme.txt
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4001111F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4001119F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102001F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102186F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102222F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102225F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102226F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4903000F.ZIP
  #86  
Old June 27th 07, 02:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
ssome
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

First, i'd like to be able to Partition the 250 into 2 ea 125's


"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

it was IDE
and i do have problems


Rename your esdi_506.pdr to esdi_506.pd_.

It is located in c:\windows\system\iosubsys.

You will then be able to work with a 250 gb IDE drive. But you will
be doing so in 16-bit, DOS-compatability mode.

i have the win Me defrag and it doesn't work with the 250,
Western Digital


You need to obtain the windows-ME version of dskmaint.dll.

You shouldn't run any drive tools on an IDE drive larger than 128 gb
until you solve the ESDI_506.PDR situation.

so, where do we get a modified ESDI_506.PDR?
i've scanned many times for a vir*us


First, read this:

http://www.msfn.org/board/Enable48Bi...er_t78592.html

Then download a modified esdi_506.PDR from he

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...604/readme.txt
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4001111F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4001119F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102001F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102186F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102222F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102225F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102226F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4903000F.ZIP



  #87  
Old June 27th 07, 02:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
ssome
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Posts: 85
Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

First, i'd like to be able to Partition the 250 into 2 ea 125's


"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

it was IDE
and i do have problems


Rename your esdi_506.pdr to esdi_506.pd_.

It is located in c:\windows\system\iosubsys.

You will then be able to work with a 250 gb IDE drive. But you will
be doing so in 16-bit, DOS-compatability mode.

i have the win Me defrag and it doesn't work with the 250,
Western Digital


You need to obtain the windows-ME version of dskmaint.dll.

You shouldn't run any drive tools on an IDE drive larger than 128 gb
until you solve the ESDI_506.PDR situation.

so, where do we get a modified ESDI_506.PDR?
i've scanned many times for a vir*us


First, read this:

http://www.msfn.org/board/Enable48Bi...er_t78592.html

Then download a modified esdi_506.PDR from he

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...604/readme.txt
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4001111F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4001119F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102001F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102186F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102222F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102225F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4102226F.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/...4/4903000F.ZIP



  #88  
Old June 27th 07, 03:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
98 Guy
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Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

ssome wrote:

First, i'd like to be able to Partition the 250 into 2 ea 125's


Yea - that's not a problem.

Boot into DOS from a floppy with fdisk and format on it. The fdisk
should be dated May 18, 2000 (not april 23, 1999).

Use fdisk to create your 2 partitions, then use format.

Then you're ready to install 98.
  #89  
Old June 27th 07, 03:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
98 Guy
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Posts: 2,951
Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

ssome wrote:

First, i'd like to be able to Partition the 250 into 2 ea 125's


Yea - that's not a problem.

Boot into DOS from a floppy with fdisk and format on it. The fdisk
should be dated May 18, 2000 (not april 23, 1999).

Use fdisk to create your 2 partitions, then use format.

Then you're ready to install 98.
  #90  
Old June 28th 07, 11:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
ssome
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Posts: 85
Default Hard drive larger then 120GB question

Mine is dated 5-18-00, but i'm fairly sure i tried that ver to partition the
250 and it wouldn't work.
The fdisk on the boot disk, at least the top one on a stack of them was the
old ver.

and the WD util to partition and format would only allow one partition, 125
or the whole 250, take my pick.

i'll move all data from the 250 to other HDs and try again.

thanks,


"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
ssome wrote:

First, i'd like to be able to Partition the 250 into 2 ea 125's


Yea - that's not a problem.

Boot into DOS from a floppy with fdisk and format on it. The fdisk
should be dated May 18, 2000 (not april 23, 1999).

Use fdisk to create your 2 partitions, then use format.

Then you're ready to install 98.



 




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