Win98 with a Large memory?

I run WindowsXP on a P4 computer. My old scanner didn't work for beans
on XP, (they didn't want to write a new driver to work with XP). Since
I had 2 hard drives installed I elected to put Win98 on the 2nd
drive's boot partition and install my scanner there. With much effort
I got it done.(It objected to my version of ndis.vxd had to beg a new
one) Then I accidently deleted Win98 while working in XP. With much
effort AGAIN I got Win98 installed back on and the scanner installed
once again.

Today I had reason to scan a picture so I tried to boot into Win98 (I
choose the drive to boot from my BIOS). This boot failed, said it
couldn't find KRNL386.EXE. (which is right where its supposed to be in
windows\system.) I had to reset to get out of error, next boot went
into Safe Mode. Win98 came right up. I could spot nothing wrong.

I don't know if it has bearing on my problem, but I increased the PC's
memory from 500 meg to 1 gig recently.

This time I had had the foresight to have created a DriveImage backup
of my Win98 partition from the time right after I got it installed, so
I Restored it back on. no help - same problem.

The only thing I can remember that changed was that increase in
memory. Does anyone here have a Win98 running with 1 gig of physical
memory? Any logical way to troubleshoot problem? The memory was kind
of pain to get in there, hate to undo that and risk messing up.

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"Ron Martell" wrote:

Earl Lewis wrote:

I run WindowsXP on a P4 computer. My old scanner didn't work for beans
on XP, (they didn't want to write a new driver to work with XP). Since
I had 2 hard drives installed I elected to put Win98 on the 2nd
drive's boot partition and install my scanner there. With much effort
I got it done.(It objected to my version of ndis.vxd had to beg a new
one) Then I accidently deleted Win98 while working in XP. With much
effort AGAIN I got Win98 installed back on and the scanner installed
once again.

Today I had reason to scan a picture so I tried to boot into Win98 (I
choose the drive to boot from my BIOS). This boot failed, said it
couldn't find KRNL386.EXE. (which is right where its supposed to be in
windows\system.) I had to reset to get out of error, next boot went
into Safe Mode. Win98 came right up. I could spot nothing wrong.

I don't know if it has bearing on my problem, but I increased the PC's
memory from 500 meg to 1 gig recently.

This time I had had the foresight to have created a DriveImage backup
of my Win98 partition from the time right after I got it installed, so
I Restored it back on. no help - same problem.

The only thing I can remember that changed was that increase in
memory. Does anyone here have a Win98 running with 1 gig of physical
memory? Any logical way to troubleshoot problem? The memory was kind
of pain to get in there, hate to undo that and risk messing up.

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Windows 98 does have problems with more than 512 mb of RAM. These
can usually be overcome with configuration settings.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:

MaxFileCache=512000

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

Can you explain step by step how to get to the vcache system

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:
MaxFileCache=512000
I have remove linux from a computer and was loading 98 when I got the
following
Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Quit one or more memory-resident programs or remove unnecessary utilities
from your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your computer.
I tied the solution there I cannot find the [386Enh] line..
as you can tell I am not computer proficient
steve finley

"stefin512" wrote in message
...
"Ron Martell" wrote:

Earl Lewis wrote:

I run WindowsXP on a P4 computer. My old scanner didn't work for beans
on XP, (they didn't want to write a new driver to work with XP). Since
I had 2 hard drives installed I elected to put Win98 on the 2nd
drive's boot partition and install my scanner there. With much effort
I got it done.(It objected to my version of ndis.vxd had to beg a new
one) Then I accidently deleted Win98 while working in XP. With much
effort AGAIN I got Win98 installed back on and the scanner installed
once again.

Today I had reason to scan a picture so I tried to boot into Win98 (I
choose the drive to boot from my BIOS). This boot failed, said it
couldn't find KRNL386.EXE. (which is right where its supposed to be in
windows\system.) I had to reset to get out of error, next boot went
into Safe Mode. Win98 came right up. I could spot nothing wrong.

I don't know if it has bearing on my problem, but I increased the PC's
memory from 500 meg to 1 gig recently.

This time I had had the foresight to have created a DriveImage backup
of my Win98 partition from the time right after I got it installed, so
I Restored it back on. no help - same problem.

The only thing I can remember that changed was that increase in
memory. Does anyone here have a Win98 running with 1 gig of physical
memory? Any logical way to troubleshoot problem? The memory was kind
of pain to get in there, hate to undo that and risk messing up.

Remove no_spam to reply email


Windows 98 does have problems with more than 512 mb of RAM. These
can usually be overcome with configuration settings.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:

MaxFileCache=512000

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

Can you explain step by step how to get to the vcache system

1. Locate WIN.INI file in the Windows folder using Windows Explorer.
2. Double-click it to open in Notepad.
3. Each section of the file has a header within brackets, like [vcache]. Use
EditFind if you need to.
4. Go to the end of the last line in that section (before whatever the next
section header is), press Enter and add the line that Ron gave you.
5. Close the file and say OK when prompted to Save.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:
MaxFileCache=512000

I have remove linux from a computer and was loading 98 when I got the
following
Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Quit one or more memory-resident programs or remove unnecessary utilities
from your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your computer.

I would simply rename those files to AUTOEXEC.OLD and CONFIG.OLD.

I tied the solution there I cannot find the [386Enh] line..
as you can tell I am not computer proficient

Use the same instructions as I gave for the [vcache] section of WIN.INI,
only [386ENH] is in the SYSTEM.INI file instead.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

Gary, you mention editing the [vcache] section of the WIN.INI and the [386Enh]
section of the SYSTEM.INI....both those sections and edits are in the SYSTEM.INI.

WIN.INI is not involved at all.

singing "Memories....."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"stefin512" wrote in message
...
"Ron Martell" wrote:

Earl Lewis wrote:

I run WindowsXP on a P4 computer. My old scanner didn't work for beans
on XP, (they didn't want to write a new driver to work with XP). Since
I had 2 hard drives installed I elected to put Win98 on the 2nd
drive's boot partition and install my scanner there. With much effort
I got it done.(It objected to my version of ndis.vxd had to beg a new
one) Then I accidently deleted Win98 while working in XP. With much
effort AGAIN I got Win98 installed back on and the scanner installed
once again.

Today I had reason to scan a picture so I tried to boot into Win98 (I
choose the drive to boot from my BIOS). This boot failed, said it
couldn't find KRNL386.EXE. (which is right where its supposed to be in
windows\system.) I had to reset to get out of error, next boot went
into Safe Mode. Win98 came right up. I could spot nothing wrong.

I don't know if it has bearing on my problem, but I increased the PC's
memory from 500 meg to 1 gig recently.

This time I had had the foresight to have created a DriveImage backup
of my Win98 partition from the time right after I got it installed, so
I Restored it back on. no help - same problem.

The only thing I can remember that changed was that increase in
memory. Does anyone here have a Win98 running with 1 gig of physical
memory? Any logical way to troubleshoot problem? The memory was kind
of pain to get in there, hate to undo that and risk messing up.

Remove no_spam to reply email


Windows 98 does have problems with more than 512 mb of RAM. These
can usually be overcome with configuration settings.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:

MaxFileCache=512000

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

Can you explain step by step how to get to the vcache system

1. Locate WIN.INI file in the Windows folder using Windows Explorer.
2. Double-click it to open in Notepad.
3. Each section of the file has a header within brackets, like [vcache]. Use
EditFind if you need to.
4. Go to the end of the last line in that section (before whatever the next
section header is), press Enter and add the line that Ron gave you.
5. Close the file and say OK when prompted to Save.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:
MaxFileCache=512000

I have remove linux from a computer and was loading 98 when I got the
following
Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Quit one or more memory-resident programs or remove unnecessary utilities
from your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your computer.

I would simply rename those files to AUTOEXEC.OLD and CONFIG.OLD.

I tied the solution there I cannot find the [386Enh] line..
as you can tell I am not computer proficient

Use the same instructions as I gave for the [vcache] section of WIN.INI, only
[386ENH] is in the SYSTEM.INI file instead.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"glee" wrote in
:

Gary, you mention editing the [vcache] section of the
WIN.INI and the [386Enh] section of the SYSTEM.INI....both
those sections and edits are in the SYSTEM.INI.

WIN.INI is not involved at all.

singing "Memories....."

Apparently, an adult loses about 13% of their grey matter per
decade starting around thirty...

OOOPS!!! Aren't we glad we have plenty of people looking over our shoulders?
I can only blame exhaustion (greatly due to the drug I'm taking now that,
among other things, we hope will improve my memory problems of late), and a
mental trick that had me reading the query incorrectly. Had a lot of other
things on my mind as well, including some very active distraction provided
by wife and pups. Now that we all share the same ofice, an arms length
apart, such distractions have greatly increased.

Twice in as many days (or was that first one only yesterday?) Boy, if this
keeps up I may have to take another sabbatical!

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"glee" wrote in message
...
Gary, you mention editing the [vcache] section of the WIN.INI and the
[386Enh] section of the SYSTEM.INI....both those sections and edits are in
the SYSTEM.INI.

WIN.INI is not involved at all.

singing "Memories....."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"stefin512" wrote in message
...
"Ron Martell" wrote:

Earl Lewis wrote:

I run WindowsXP on a P4 computer. My old scanner didn't work for beans
on XP, (they didn't want to write a new driver to work with XP). Since
I had 2 hard drives installed I elected to put Win98 on the 2nd
drive's boot partition and install my scanner there. With much effort
I got it done.(It objected to my version of ndis.vxd had to beg a new
one) Then I accidently deleted Win98 while working in XP. With much
effort AGAIN I got Win98 installed back on and the scanner installed
once again.

Today I had reason to scan a picture so I tried to boot into Win98 (I
choose the drive to boot from my BIOS). This boot failed, said it
couldn't find KRNL386.EXE. (which is right where its supposed to be in
windows\system.) I had to reset to get out of error, next boot went
into Safe Mode. Win98 came right up. I could spot nothing wrong.

I don't know if it has bearing on my problem, but I increased the PC's
memory from 500 meg to 1 gig recently.

This time I had had the foresight to have created a DriveImage backup
of my Win98 partition from the time right after I got it installed, so
I Restored it back on. no help - same problem.

The only thing I can remember that changed was that increase in
memory. Does anyone here have a Win98 running with 1 gig of physical
memory? Any logical way to troubleshoot problem? The memory was kind
of pain to get in there, hate to undo that and risk messing up.

Remove no_spam to reply email


Windows 98 does have problems with more than 512 mb of RAM. These
can usually be overcome with configuration settings.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:

MaxFileCache=512000

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

Can you explain step by step how to get to the vcache system

1. Locate WIN.INI file in the Windows folder using Windows Explorer.
2. Double-click it to open in Notepad.
3. Each section of the file has a header within brackets, like [vcache].
Use EditFind if you need to.
4. Go to the end of the last line in that section (before whatever the
next section header is), press Enter and add the line that Ron gave
you.
5. Close the file and say OK when prompted to Save.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:
MaxFileCache=512000

I have remove linux from a computer and was loading 98 when I got the
following
Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Quit one or more memory-resident programs or remove unnecessary
utilities
from your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your computer.

I would simply rename those files to AUTOEXEC.OLD and CONFIG.OLD.

I tied the solution there I cannot find the [386Enh] line..
as you can tell I am not computer proficient

Use the same instructions as I gave for the [vcache] section of WIN.INI,
only [386ENH] is in the SYSTEM.INI file instead.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

So I'm already down by a quarter? No, that should be 13% + 13% of 87% of
original? Anyway, ask anyone who's known me for long and they'll suggest
that I had way too much to start with, eg.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
"glee" wrote in
:

Gary, you mention editing the [vcache] section of the
WIN.INI and the [386Enh] section of the SYSTEM.INI....both
those sections and edits are in the SYSTEM.INI.

WIN.INI is not involved at all.

singing "Memories....."

Apparently, an adult loses about 13% of their grey matter per
decade starting around thirty...

I've run Win98SE for years with 1024 & 1024 DDR (dual 512's). Aside from an
intermittent "Low Memory" Warning, I've experienced no problems to my
self-taught knowledge.

If you read Tiger Direct, they recommend that Critical Memory is to be
contacted for helpful hints while running such large memory with 98 or SE. I
guess that this only works for Critical purchasers, because my questions were
completely ignored.

Peace,
gj

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OOOPS!!! Aren't we glad we have plenty of people looking over our shoulders?
I can only blame exhaustion (greatly due to the drug I'm taking now that,
among other things, we hope will improve my memory problems of late), and a
mental trick that had me reading the query incorrectly. Had a lot of other
things on my mind as well, including some very active distraction provided
by wife and pups. Now that we all share the same ofice, an arms length
apart, such distractions have greatly increased.

Twice in as many days (or was that first one only yesterday?) Boy, if this
keeps up I may have to take another sabbatical!

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"glee" wrote in message
...
Gary, you mention editing the [vcache] section of the WIN.INI and the
[386Enh] section of the SYSTEM.INI....both those sections and edits are in
the SYSTEM.INI.

WIN.INI is not involved at all.

singing "Memories....."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"stefin512" wrote in message
...
"Ron Martell" wrote:

Earl Lewis wrote:

I run WindowsXP on a P4 computer. My old scanner didn't work for beans
on XP, (they didn't want to write a new driver to work with XP). Since
I had 2 hard drives installed I elected to put Win98 on the 2nd
drive's boot partition and install my scanner there. With much effort
I got it done.(It objected to my version of ndis.vxd had to beg a new
one) Then I accidently deleted Win98 while working in XP. With much
effort AGAIN I got Win98 installed back on and the scanner installed
once again.

Today I had reason to scan a picture so I tried to boot into Win98 (I
choose the drive to boot from my BIOS). This boot failed, said it
couldn't find KRNL386.EXE. (which is right where its supposed to be in
windows\system.) I had to reset to get out of error, next boot went
into Safe Mode. Win98 came right up. I could spot nothing wrong.

I don't know if it has bearing on my problem, but I increased the PC's
memory from 500 meg to 1 gig recently.

This time I had had the foresight to have created a DriveImage backup
of my Win98 partition from the time right after I got it installed, so
I Restored it back on. no help - same problem.

The only thing I can remember that changed was that increase in
memory. Does anyone here have a Win98 running with 1 gig of physical
memory? Any logical way to troubleshoot problem? The memory was kind
of pain to get in there, hate to undo that and risk messing up.

Remove no_spam to reply email


Windows 98 does have problems with more than 512 mb of RAM. These
can usually be overcome with configuration settings.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:

MaxFileCache=512000

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

Can you explain step by step how to get to the vcache system

1. Locate WIN.INI file in the Windows folder using Windows Explorer.
2. Double-click it to open in Notepad.
3. Each section of the file has a header within brackets, like [vcache].
Use EditFind if you need to.
4. Go to the end of the last line in that section (before whatever the
next section header is), press Enter and add the line that Ron gave
you.
5. Close the file and say OK when prompted to Save.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:
MaxFileCache=512000

I have remove linux from a computer and was loading 98 when I got the
following
Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Quit one or more memory-resident programs or remove unnecessary
utilities
from your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your computer.

I would simply rename those files to AUTOEXEC.OLD and CONFIG.OLD.

I tied the solution there I cannot find the [386Enh] line..
as you can tell I am not computer proficient

Use the same instructions as I gave for the [vcache] section of WIN.INI,
only [386ENH] is in the SYSTEM.INI file instead.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:46:42 GMT, Ron Martell
wrote:

Earl Lewis wrote:

I run WindowsXP on a P4 computer. My old scanner didn't work for beans
on XP, (they didn't want to write a new driver to work with XP). Since
I had 2 hard drives installed I elected to put Win98 on the 2nd
drive's boot partition and install my scanner there. With much effort
I got it done.(It objected to my version of ndis.vxd had to beg a new
one) Then I accidently deleted Win98 while working in XP. With much
effort AGAIN I got Win98 installed back on and the scanner installed
once again.

Today I had reason to scan a picture so I tried to boot into Win98 (I
choose the drive to boot from my BIOS). This boot failed, said it
couldn't find KRNL386.EXE. (which is right where its supposed to be in
windows\system.) I had to reset to get out of error, next boot went
into Safe Mode. Win98 came right up. I could spot nothing wrong.

I don't know if it has bearing on my problem, but I increased the PC's
memory from 500 meg to 1 gig recently.

This time I had had the foresight to have created a DriveImage backup
of my Win98 partition from the time right after I got it installed, so
I Restored it back on. no help - same problem.

The only thing I can remember that changed was that increase in
memory. Does anyone here have a Win98 running with 1 gig of physical
memory? Any logical way to troubleshoot problem? The memory was kind
of pain to get in there, hate to undo that and risk messing up.

Remove no_spam to reply email


Windows 98 does have problems with more than 512 mb of RAM. These
can usually be overcome with configuration settings.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:

MaxFileCache=512000

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

Many thanks, that worked like a charm and Win98 booted right up for
me.

And yes, I think SE CAN handle more memory, but I'm stuck with plain
old Win98.

Remove no_spam to reply email

AFAIK, there's no difference.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Earl Lewis" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:46:42 GMT, Ron Martell
wrote:

Earl Lewis wrote:

I run WindowsXP on a P4 computer. My old scanner didn't work for beans
on XP, (they didn't want to write a new driver to work with XP). Since
I had 2 hard drives installed I elected to put Win98 on the 2nd
drive's boot partition and install my scanner there. With much effort
I got it done.(It objected to my version of ndis.vxd had to beg a new
one) Then I accidently deleted Win98 while working in XP. With much
effort AGAIN I got Win98 installed back on and the scanner installed
once again.

Today I had reason to scan a picture so I tried to boot into Win98 (I
choose the drive to boot from my BIOS). This boot failed, said it
couldn't find KRNL386.EXE. (which is right where its supposed to be in
windows\system.) I had to reset to get out of error, next boot went
into Safe Mode. Win98 came right up. I could spot nothing wrong.

I don't know if it has bearing on my problem, but I increased the PC's
memory from 500 meg to 1 gig recently.

This time I had had the foresight to have created a DriveImage backup
of my Win98 partition from the time right after I got it installed, so
I Restored it back on. no help - same problem.

The only thing I can remember that changed was that increase in
memory. Does anyone here have a Win98 running with 1 gig of physical
memory? Any logical way to troubleshoot problem? The memory was kind
of pain to get in there, hate to undo that and risk messing up.

Remove no_spam to reply email


Windows 98 does have problems with more than 512 mb of RAM. These
can usually be overcome with configuration settings.

With 1 gb of RAM total all you should need is to add the following
line to the [vcache] section if the \Windows\System.ini file for
Windows 98:

MaxFileCache=512000

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

Many thanks, that worked like a charm and Win98 booted right up for
me.

And yes, I think SE CAN handle more memory, but I'm stuck with plain
old Win98.

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