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Critical Update
I keep being offered the same critical update, even though it shows as been
successfully installed 3 times. How do I stop this from happening. Bob |
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What update is it? If it is 823559, see Mow Green's reply in this thread:
http://snurl.com/3b8m Otherwise, read he http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/needagain.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bob B" wrote in message ... I keep being offered the same critical update, even though it shows as been successfully installed 3 times. How do I stop this from happening. Bob |
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"glee" wrote in message ... What update is it? If it is 823559, see Mow Green's reply in this thread: http://snurl.com/3b8m Otherwise, read he http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/needagain.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bob B" wrote in message ... I keep being offered the same critical update, even though it shows as been successfully installed 3 times. How do I stop this from happening. Bob It is KB837009 and I now realise it for an XP OS so why am I offered it as I have 98SE? Bob |
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"Bob B" wrote in message ... "glee" wrote in message ... What update is it? If it is 823559, see Mow Green's reply in this thread: http://snurl.com/3b8m Otherwise, read he http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/needagain.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bob B" wrote in message ... I keep being offered the same critical update, even though it shows as been successfully installed 3 times. How do I stop this from happening. Bob It is KB837009 and I now realise it for an XP OS so why am I offered it as I have 98SE? Bob You are dead wrong about that, sir. MS04-013: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=837009 APPLIES TO .. Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 .. Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 .. Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Security Bulletin MS04-013: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-013.mspx Affected Softwa .. Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a .. Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a .. Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition Service Pack 6 .. Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 .. Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1 .. Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service Pack 1 .. Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version 2003 .. Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003 .. Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition .. Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition (SE), and Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (ME) Frequently asked questions (FAQ) related to this security update: Q Are Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition or Windows Millennium Edition critically affected by the vulnerability addressed within this security bulletin? A Yes. This vulnerability is critical in severity on Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows Millennium Edition. The reason that you are being offered this update repeatedly is probably because you somehow managed to install the critical updates out of sequence. This unfortunate incident was then exacerbated by a bug or glitch in the Windows Update procedure which reported the update as successful, when in fact it was no such thing. However, your installation history does NOT reflect a successful update, so the critical keeps saying "Move over, here I come again". The only solution that I know off is to uninstall the criticals and then reinstall them in the proper sequence. |
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"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message ... "Bob B" wrote in message ... "glee" wrote in message ... What update is it? If it is 823559, see Mow Green's reply in this thread: http://snurl.com/3b8m Otherwise, read he http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/needagain.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bob B" wrote in message ... I keep being offered the same critical update, even though it shows as been successfully installed 3 times. How do I stop this from happening. Bob It is KB837009 and I now realise it for an XP OS so why am I offered it as I have 98SE? Bob You are dead wrong about that, sir. MS04-013: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=837009 APPLIES TO . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Security Bulletin MS04-013: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-013.mspx Affected Softwa . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition Service Pack 6 . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version 2003 . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003 . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition (SE), and Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (ME) Frequently asked questions (FAQ) related to this security update: Q Are Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition or Windows Millennium Edition critically affected by the vulnerability addressed within this security bulletin? A Yes. This vulnerability is critical in severity on Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows Millennium Edition. The reason that you are being offered this update repeatedly is probably because you somehow managed to install the critical updates out of sequence. This unfortunate incident was then exacerbated by a bug or glitch in the Windows Update procedure which reported the update as successful, when in fact it was no such thing. However, your installation history does NOT reflect a successful update, so the critical keeps saying "Move over, here I come again". The only solution that I know off is to uninstall the criticals and then reinstall them in the proper sequence. Thanks I will give it a go.. I also downloaded the file directly from the microsoft site and then tried to install it ... thats when I got the warning that the file was only for an XP system and refused to let me install it ....Bob |
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"Bob B" wrote in message ... Thanks I will give it a go.. I also downloaded the file directly from the microsoft site and then tried to install it ... thats when I got the warning that the file was only for an XP system and refused to let me install it You glommed onto the wrong file. Possibly the IE6 SP1 64-bit version, which is here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en You do NOT want that file if you are running 98 or 98SE I can assure you that 837009 is applicable to 98SE, and a file exists which will install in a 98SE system. If you are running IE6 SP1 32-bit version, then this is the file you want http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en Or go back here and check the specs again and decide for yourself http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-013.mspx |
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"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message ... "Bob B" wrote in message ... Thanks I will give it a go.. I also downloaded the file directly from the microsoft site and then tried to install it ... thats when I got the warning that the file was only for an XP system and refused to let me install it You glommed onto the wrong file. Possibly the IE6 SP1 64-bit version, which is here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en You do NOT want that file if you are running 98 or 98SE I can assure you that 837009 is applicable to 98SE, and a file exists which will install in a 98SE system. If you are running IE6 SP1 32-bit version, then this is the file you want http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en Or go back here and check the specs again and decide for yourself http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-013.mspx I am sure you hit the nail on the head as I found that outlook express is version 6.00.2800.1123 and that I needed KB887797 before 837009 would install. I duly downloaded and installed 887797. Restarted the computer. Then installed 837009 using windows update. The same version number is still showing for express and critical updates claim I have still to install 83700. Is my version number correct? Internet Explorer does show that I have installed SP1 . Bob |
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"Bob B" wrote in message news "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message ... "Bob B" wrote in message ... Thanks I will give it a go.. I also downloaded the file directly from the microsoft site and then tried to install it ... thats when I got the warning that the file was only for an XP system and refused to let me install it You glommed onto the wrong file. Possibly the IE6 SP1 64-bit version, which is here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en You do NOT want that file if you are running 98 or 98SE I can assure you that 837009 is applicable to 98SE, and a file exists which will install in a 98SE system. If you are running IE6 SP1 32-bit version, then this is the file you want http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en Or go back here and check the specs again and decide for yourself http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-013.mspx I am sure you hit the nail on the head as I found that outlook express is version 6.00.2800.1123 and that I needed KB887797 before 837009 would install. I duly downloaded and installed 887797. Restarted the computer. Then installed 837009 using windows update. The same version number is still showing for express and critical updates claim I have still to install 83700. Is my version number correct? Internet Explorer does show that I have installed SP1 . Bob That OE version looks OK to me, but that may not mean much. I'm not sure that I can steer you out of your problem, because I am having a hard time making sense of the information in the MS knowledge base. For example, KB887797 is identified as: APPLIES TO .. Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 .. Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 .. Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2 However, in the same KB article, the title of the update is stated to be "Description of the Cumulative Update for Outlook Express for Windows XP (KB887797)" It also states that, "Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update Web site, you must install cumulative security update 823353. " For the record, I have neither of those updates, yet the Windows Update site declares that there are no updates required on my testbed. I have been working diligently for some time to review and consolidate the available information, but I keep running into problems such as these. I resisted getting involved with this Windows Update scenario for the longest time, because my common sense and my extensive experience in IT management and development told me that Microsoft would NOT be able to manage this properly. I eventually decided to do a trial run, in case I was wrong. I tried updating a computer using the Security CD, and then the Windows Update site. Along the way, I saw nothing but confusion, fear, uncertainty and doubt, on my part and on the part of many, many other who voiced their concerns in this and in other newsgroups, and who continue to do so, as you do. I doubt that I will ever be able to construct a definitive analysis of this process - Windows Update - as it relates to Win 98SE, as the whole thing is an uncoordinated roll of the dice. The maddening thing is that concerns such as these are ignored, with the victim written off as "Just another Microsoft basher". Well, in this case, it happens that I am not "Just another Microsoft basher". I have participated in Usability Studies [confidential, so don't ask], and depend on Microsoft software for a large part of my computing environment. I have NO axe to grind with MS or any other company, unless they show inability or incompetence. Or both. |
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Microsoft weaseled their way out of supplying this update for Win98 and WinME, by
calling it a "non-critical security issue"....they only have to supply updates for Critical Issues at this stage of support for those systems. Of course, the issue is in reality just as critical on these platforms as it is on XP and other recent platforms, and should have been given critical Update status, IMO. You can in fact install the update for your version of IE/OE6 although it does not list your operating system as one supported. Microsoft does not support this, nor recommend it. I and others have successfully installed 823353 for IE/OE6 SP1 here. See the FAQ section here - Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353): http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-018.mspx -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message ... "Bob B" wrote in message news "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message ... "Bob B" wrote in message ... Thanks I will give it a go.. I also downloaded the file directly from the microsoft site and then tried to install it ... thats when I got the warning that the file was only for an XP system and refused to let me install it You glommed onto the wrong file. Possibly the IE6 SP1 64-bit version, which is here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en You do NOT want that file if you are running 98 or 98SE I can assure you that 837009 is applicable to 98SE, and a file exists which will install in a 98SE system. If you are running IE6 SP1 32-bit version, then this is the file you want http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en Or go back here and check the specs again and decide for yourself http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-013.mspx I am sure you hit the nail on the head as I found that outlook express is version 6.00.2800.1123 and that I needed KB887797 before 837009 would install. I duly downloaded and installed 887797. Restarted the computer. Then installed 837009 using windows update. The same version number is still showing for express and critical updates claim I have still to install 83700. Is my version number correct? Internet Explorer does show that I have installed SP1 . Bob That OE version looks OK to me, but that may not mean much. I'm not sure that I can steer you out of your problem, because I am having a hard time making sense of the information in the MS knowledge base. For example, KB887797 is identified as: APPLIES TO . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2 However, in the same KB article, the title of the update is stated to be "Description of the Cumulative Update for Outlook Express for Windows XP (KB887797)" It also states that, "Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update Web site, you must install cumulative security update 823353. " For the record, I have neither of those updates, yet the Windows Update site declares that there are no updates required on my testbed. I have been working diligently for some time to review and consolidate the available information, but I keep running into problems such as these. I resisted getting involved with this Windows Update scenario for the longest time, because my common sense and my extensive experience in IT management and development told me that Microsoft would NOT be able to manage this properly. I eventually decided to do a trial run, in case I was wrong. I tried updating a computer using the Security CD, and then the Windows Update site. Along the way, I saw nothing but confusion, fear, uncertainty and doubt, on my part and on the part of many, many other who voiced their concerns in this and in other newsgroups, and who continue to do so, as you do. I doubt that I will ever be able to construct a definitive analysis of this process - Windows Update - as it relates to Win 98SE, as the whole thing is an uncoordinated roll of the dice. The maddening thing is that concerns such as these are ignored, with the victim written off as "Just another Microsoft basher". Well, in this case, it happens that I am not "Just another Microsoft basher". I have participated in Usability Studies [confidential, so don't ask], and depend on Microsoft software for a large part of my computing environment. I have NO axe to grind with MS or any other company, unless they show inability or incompetence. Or both. |
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Hugh Candlin wrote:
"Bob B" wrote in message news "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message ... "Bob B" wrote in message ... Thanks I will give it a go.. I also downloaded the file directly from the microsoft site and then tried to install it ... thats when I got the warning that the file was only for an XP system and refused to let me install it You glommed onto the wrong file. Possibly the IE6 SP1 64-bit version, which is here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en You do NOT want that file if you are running 98 or 98SE I can assure you that 837009 is applicable to 98SE, and a file exists which will install in a 98SE system. If you are running IE6 SP1 32-bit version, then this is the file you want http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en Or go back here and check the specs again and decide for yourself http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms04-013.mspx I am sure you hit the nail on the head as I found that outlook express is version 6.00.2800.1123 and that I needed KB887797 before 837009 would install. I duly downloaded and installed 887797. Restarted the computer. Then installed 837009 using windows update. The same version number is still showing for express and critical updates claim I have still to install 83700. Is my version number correct? Internet Explorer does show that I have installed SP1 . Bob That OE version looks OK to me, but that may not mean much. I'm not sure that I can steer you out of your problem, because I am having a hard time making sense of the information in the MS knowledge base. For example, KB887797 is identified as: APPLIES TO . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2 However, in the same KB article, the title of the update is stated to be "Description of the Cumulative Update for Outlook Express for Windows XP (KB887797)" It also states that, "Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update Web site, you must install cumulative security update 823353. " For the record, I have neither of those updates, yet the Windows Update site declares that there are no updates required on my testbed. I have been working diligently for some time to review and consolidate the available information, but I keep running into problems such as these. I resisted getting involved with this Windows Update scenario for the longest time, because my common sense and my extensive experience in IT management and development told me that Microsoft would NOT be able to manage this properly. I eventually decided to do a trial run, in case I was wrong. I tried updating a computer using the Security CD, and then the Windows Update site. Along the way, I saw nothing but confusion, fear, uncertainty and doubt, on my part and on the part of many, many other who voiced their concerns in this and in other newsgroups, and who continue to do so, as you do. I doubt that I will ever be able to construct a definitive analysis of this process - Windows Update - as it relates to Win 98SE, as the whole thing is an uncoordinated roll of the dice. The maddening thing is that concerns such as these are ignored, with the victim written off as "Just another Microsoft basher". Well, in this case, it happens that I am not "Just another Microsoft basher". I have participated in Usability Studies [confidential, so don't ask], and depend on Microsoft software for a large part of my computing environment. I have NO axe to grind with MS or any other company, unless they show inability or incompetence. Or both. Amen bro' |
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