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Would windows reprint a single page ?
Hello All,
We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland |
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Would windows reprint a single page ?
Hi Mark,
I would suspect it to be in the application, or the print job itself. The printer just does what it's told, though if there is a "glitch" some may lose the current page count and restart from the last completed page. If you've only had two repeats in a million, I would think it more as a curiousity than anything else. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland |
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Would windows reprint a single page ?
Hello Rick,
Thanks for the response, I certainly acknowledge that it could be in the application. When you say "or the print job itself", what exactly do you mean. Are you referring to the print job in the Printer Queue? or referring to something in the printer. Unfortunately, it is two repeats in 6 million labels, but as opposed to being a curiousity, the customer is not happy with even this qty of duplicate! As you can imagine, it is not easy to diagnose. Any further thoughts are welcome. Mark "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi Mark, I would suspect it to be in the application, or the print job itself. The printer just does what it's told, though if there is a "glitch" some may lose the current page count and restart from the last completed page. If you've only had two repeats in a million, I would think it more as a curiousity than anything else. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland |
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Would windows reprint a single page ?
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:53:22 -0000, "Mark L. Breen"
wrote: Hello All, We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. Having been in the computer industry since before there was an IBM PC, I have seen a LOT of "gremlins". I've had "issues" arise, and when a engineer or tech or programmer walked into my office (I'm a writer/computer documentation person) and I explained the situation-- (and why my project was running late or "off track") had the "pro" tell me, "bull****! That just doesn't happen! If you can't do the job, just say so!" I'd be trying to dig myself out, the "pro" would decide to "give me a teensy break" and do that phase himself, and 10 minutes later, I'd hear a "I'll be **&&)987)&)&^7! The *)(&)*(7 computer just did it to me!" In a dozen different applications from DOD to NASA, from computer design ("pre-Microsoft"), to CAD/CAM, my cohorts in the biz have come to call these "glitches" either "burps" or "farts", depending on your mood. Frankly, Mike, if your computer / printer has only burped 2 times in 5 months or so, I'd be kissing it "Good morning" every day and looking for a girlfriend/boyfriend for it (for those long, lonely nights!! For 2 burps in 5 months, you are Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of the game! Just to give you a tiny clue, I now use XP Pro (the one we old-timers call "Microsoft FINALLY got it right") on an AMD 1.8 Ghz with a 200 Gb hdd, 512 mb, an 80 Gb external hdd, a 250 mb external Zip, and so on. As advanced as XP Pro is, I STILL have to reboot (reset button) some 10 or 20 times a D A Y !! I lock up that often! I was in a computer store a couple of years ago. XP had been out about a year. I got to chatting with another "pro" (a programmer, as I recall) about hardware/software, what we use, what we prefer, what we hate... She finally said, "You sound kinda knowledgable. Can I ask you something?" I was flattered. I told her, "I hope I'm kinda knowledgeable. I helped give birth to the IBM PC, LITERALLY." She asked me if my XP PRO ever locked up on me. I LAUGHED. "Only about 10 - 20 times a DAY!" I chuckled. She said, "I thought XP was supposed to be "the perfect OS!" I laughed. "Ain't no such animal!" She said, "Mine locks up about 10 -15 times a day. I thought it was me!" I said, "Honey, I haven't talked with a single person yet who doesn't have to warm boot at LEAST 10 times a day." I have asked my tech about this. He's an engineer who is capable of designing systems at the logic level. He asked me what I was doing. We got to talking. I said I typically have at LEAST a dozen windows open at one time. Bruce said I shouldn't have more than 3 to 5 windows open at one time. "That's why you're locking up." I simply can't live with 5 windows open. I TYPICALLY have 10 windows open. So I guess I'm stuck with warm booting 10 times a day. And we're back to the beginning. Hope something in there helps. Tallahassee. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland |
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Would windows reprint a single page ?
No, windows will not reprint a single page. It has no way to determine that
any page needs to be reprinted. The program Bartender prepares a spool file for the printer driver. The printer driver opens this spool file and sends pages to the printer as needed. The printer prints what it receives from the driver. The only thing that could determine that a page needs to be reprinted is the printer, but printers only print. Jim "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland |
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Would windows reprint a single page ?
Guessing here but over TCP/IP a packet got retransmitted?
Mark L. Breen wrote: Hello All, We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland |
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Would windows reprint a single page ?
"Mark L. Breen" wrote: Hello All, We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland Hello, Can you clearify, when you state a "duplicate document" does this mean "2500" pages were printed twice? How many program set-up checks before sending to printer? take care. beamish. |
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Would windows reprint a single page ?
Hello Beamish,
Only one page was re-printed. and it was mid way through the 2500 labels ! Mark "beamish" wrote in message ... "Mark L. Breen" wrote: Hello All, We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland Hello, Can you clearify, when you state a "duplicate document" does this mean "2500" pages were printed twice? How many program set-up checks before sending to printer? take care. beamish. |
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Would windows reprint a single page ?
"Mark L. Breen" wrote: Hello Beamish, Only one page was re-printed. and it was mid way through the 2500 labels ! Mark "beamish" wrote in message ... "Mark L. Breen" wrote: Hello All, We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland Hello, Can you clearify, when you state a "duplicate document" does this mean "2500" pages were printed twice? How many program set-up checks before sending to printer? take care. beamish. Hello, A wild guess, an electric anomaly, a millisecond surge not enough to cause a shut down or a ups unit to kick in, just enough to cause a printing stutter. A friend recently returned from a 3 month teaching assignment in your fair country. She is considering returning, on a more permanent basis. Her passion "horses" seems she found many kinder spirits in Ireland. take care. beamish. |
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Would windows reprint a single page ?
Hi,
I was referring to the print queue, the printer normally just does whatever jobs are sent to it. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello Rick, Thanks for the response, I certainly acknowledge that it could be in the application. When you say "or the print job itself", what exactly do you mean. Are you referring to the print job in the Printer Queue? or referring to something in the printer. Unfortunately, it is two repeats in 6 million labels, but as opposed to being a curiousity, the customer is not happy with even this qty of duplicate! As you can imagine, it is not easy to diagnose. Any further thoughts are welcome. Mark "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi Mark, I would suspect it to be in the application, or the print job itself. The printer just does what it's told, though if there is a "glitch" some may lose the current page count and restart from the last completed page. If you've only had two repeats in a million, I would think it more as a curiousity than anything else. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, We use an application named Bartenter to generate labels. A typcial document we send to our printer contains 2500 pages. We recently had a problem where one label was printed twice. I.E., a duplicate document was generated. I know this is a vague question, I am really only trying to get your 'feel' for this fault. Do you think that Windows would have generated the reprinted page? I do not think Windows would cause this, the page did print twice, but I think that fault lies with either the application generating the print or the printer, that is producing the pages. I am interested in your feedback. I have purposely now attempted to outline the OS versions involved because there is a few machines it the chain, but to give you an idea, The WorkStation is XP Pro The Printer is queued on a Win2000 Server machine. We are using the recommended SeaGull Scientific Printer Drives We are printing over TCP/IP. Finally, the fault is intermittant, we have only witnessed it twice, once in August 2005 and once in Dec 2005. We have probably printed 1 - 2 million labels in that time ! Thanks Guys, Mark Breen Ireland |
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