Home P2P Network between ME and XP - HELP!!

I am trying to network my 2 PCs. The host is running ME
and has a D-Link DFE-528TX Ethernet adapter. The other PC
is running XP and has a built in LAN on the motherboard
(Realtek 8100C 10/100mbps Ethernet). I have connected the
2 via a crossover cable as I understand this is supposed
to be a very easy way of doing things.

I ran the network wizard on ME then on the XP machine, but
beyond that I haven't a clue what to do. OK OK I'm thick,
but someone said it was easy. I can't get either PC to see
the other PC in any way shape or form. Although if I
unplug the cable from the ME machine the XP macine
recognises the connection is broken.

Can someone give me a step by step? I find the MS site too
painful to go through and to be frank it has confused me
totally. I essentially want to share my ADSL connection,
printers and hard drives. A bonus would be to for XP to
share my ME DVD drive but not sure if that's possible. Oh
and when the 2 PCs are connected I cannot connect to the
internet through the host PC either!!

Please help.

In article , "Paul W"
wrote:
I am trying to network my 2 PCs. The host is running ME
and has a D-Link DFE-528TX Ethernet adapter. The other PC
is running XP and has a built in LAN on the motherboard
(Realtek 8100C 10/100mbps Ethernet). I have connected the
2 via a crossover cable as I understand this is supposed
to be a very easy way of doing things.

I ran the network wizard on ME then on the XP machine, but
beyond that I haven't a clue what to do. OK OK I'm thick,
but someone said it was easy. I can't get either PC to see
the other PC in any way shape or form. Although if I
unplug the cable from the ME machine the XP macine
recognises the connection is broken.

Can someone give me a step by step? I find the MS site too
painful to go through and to be frank it has confused me
totally. I essentially want to share my ADSL connection,
printers and hard drives. A bonus would be to for XP to
share my ME DVD drive but not sure if that's possible. Oh
and when the 2 PCs are connected I cannot connect to the
internet through the host PC either!!

Please help.

Don't run ME's network wizard on either computer.

Run XP's network wizard on both computers. On XP, tell it to share
the ADSL Internet connection. On ME, tell it that the computer
connects to the Internet through another computer on the network. The
Wizard will make all of the necessary settings for sharing Internet
access, files, and printers. I've written a web page with details:

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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In article , Steve Winograd
[MVP] says...

Run XP's network wizard on both computers. On XP, tell it to share
the ADSL Internet connection. On ME, tell it that the computer
connects to the Internet through another computer on the network. The
Wizard will make all of the necessary settings for sharing Internet
access, files, and printers. I've written a web page with details:

Would that be backward if the Me computer was connected to the ADSL modem? I
only ask because the only part of the whole of the OP's posts which
identifies which computer will have the Internet connection is the part
where he states that, "The host is running ME...". I would have taken that
to mean that the Me computer had the Internet connection.

Also, but I don't have a Winodws XP - Windows Me LAN to test this on, it
seems to me that I would run the native Wizard on each computer. On the
Internet (host) computer I would instruct the (native) Wizard that this
computer would share the Intnernet connection, and point the ICS part to the
Internet connection. On the other (client) computer I would instruct the
(native) Wizard that the computer would connect to the Internet through
another network computer.

On the one hand, I am really reluctant to get Windows XP. I don't think my
computer would handle the upgrade, and I don't particularly care for the
"Product Aggravation" thingy. If I ever accumulate enough money for a more
capable computer (this is a 700MHz Celeron with 192 MBytes of RAM, and two
HDDs totalling 60 GBytes; at the risk of overstraining the wimpy little 100W
power supply that HP saw fit to put in their Pavilions in 200), I was going
to get some version of Linux.

On the other hand, all of my friends and relatives are getting Windows XP,
then asking me for help. There really isn't much advice that I can give
without actually getting a Windows XP system. Hmmm. Maybe a low end, "El
Cheapo" entry level system with XP Home as a "test bed"; and save the rest
of the bucks for a whizbang *nix box.

Now to find a job...

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

In article , N.
Miller wrote:
I am trying to network my 2 PCs. The host is running ME
and has a D-Link DFE-528TX Ethernet adapter. The other PC
is running XP and has a built in LAN on the motherboard
(Realtek 8100C 10/100mbps Ethernet). I have connected the
2 via a crossover cable as I understand this is supposed
to be a very easy way of doing things.

I ran the network wizard on ME then on the XP machine, but
beyond that I haven't a clue what to do. OK OK I'm thick,
but someone said it was easy. I can't get either PC to see
the other PC in any way shape or form. Although if I
unplug the cable from the ME machine the XP macine
recognises the connection is broken.

Can someone give me a step by step? I find the MS site too
painful to go through and to be frank it has confused me
totally. I essentially want to share my ADSL connection,
printers and hard drives. A bonus would be to for XP to
share my ME DVD drive but not sure if that's possible. Oh
and when the 2 PCs are connected I cannot connect to the
internet through the host PC either!!

Please help.

Run XP's network wizard on both computers. On XP, tell it to share
the ADSL Internet connection. On ME, tell it that the computer
connects to the Internet through another computer on the network. The
Wizard will make all of the necessary settings for sharing Internet
access, files, and printers. I've written a web page with details:

Would that be backward if the Me computer was connected to the ADSL modem? I
only ask because the only part of the whole of the OP's posts which
identifies which computer will have the Internet connection is the part
where he states that, "The host is running ME...". I would have taken that
to mean that the Me computer had the Internet connection.

After re-reading the original question, I think that you're right and
that I misunderstood it. Since the host is running ME, my answer was
wrong. Thanks for pointing it out.

Also, but I don't have a Winodws XP - Windows Me LAN to test this on, it
seems to me that I would run the native Wizard on each computer. On the
Internet (host) computer I would instruct the (native) Wizard that this
computer would share the Intnernet connection, and point the ICS part to the
Internet connection. On the other (client) computer I would instruct the
(native) Wizard that the computer would connect to the Internet through
another network computer.

ME's wizard won't run on XP. XP's wizard runs on XP, ME, and 98, and
is meant for use on all computers when using XP as the host.

On the one hand, I am really reluctant to get Windows XP. I don't think my
computer would handle the upgrade, and I don't particularly care for the
"Product Aggravation" thingy. If I ever accumulate enough money for a more
capable computer (this is a 700MHz Celeron with 192 MBytes of RAM, and two
HDDs totalling 60 GBytes; at the risk of overstraining the wimpy little 100W
power supply that HP saw fit to put in their Pavilions in 200), I was going
to get some version of Linux.

I think that XP would run fine on that computer.

On the other hand, all of my friends and relatives are getting Windows XP,
then asking me for help. There really isn't much advice that I can give
without actually getting a Windows XP system. Hmmm. Maybe a low end, "El
Cheapo" entry level system with XP Home as a "test bed"; and save the rest
of the bucks for a whizbang *nix box.

You can get a new computer, complete with monitor and printer, for
around $400 (after rebates) at computer stores and office supply
stores in the USA.

Now to find a job...
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article , "Steve
Winograd [MVP]" wrote:
In article , "Paul W"
wrote:
I am trying to network my 2 PCs. The host is running ME
and has a D-Link DFE-528TX Ethernet adapter. The other PC
is running XP and has a built in LAN on the motherboard
(Realtek 8100C 10/100mbps Ethernet). I have connected the
2 via a crossover cable as I understand this is supposed
to be a very easy way of doing things.

I ran the network wizard on ME then on the XP machine, but
beyond that I haven't a clue what to do. OK OK I'm thick,
but someone said it was easy. I can't get either PC to see
the other PC in any way shape or form. Although if I
unplug the cable from the ME machine the XP macine
recognises the connection is broken.

Can someone give me a step by step? I find the MS site too
painful to go through and to be frank it has confused me
totally. I essentially want to share my ADSL connection,
printers and hard drives. A bonus would be to for XP to
share my ME DVD drive but not sure if that's possible. Oh
and when the 2 PCs are connected I cannot connect to the
internet through the host PC either!!

Please help.

Don't run ME's network wizard on either computer.

Run XP's network wizard on both computers. On XP, tell it to share
the ADSL Internet connection. On ME, tell it that the computer
connects to the Internet through another computer on the network. The
Wizard will make all of the necessary settings for sharing Internet
access, files, and printers. I've written a web page with details:

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics

I'm sorry, Paul, but I misread your question. Since your host is
running ME, not XP, my answer is wrong. I'll try to do better this
time.

Configure ME as an Internet Connection Sharing host as shown he

ICS Installation [WinMe]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...smeinstall.htm

Configure XP as an Internet Connection Sharing client as shown he

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
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Thanks for your help guys but......

That's essentially what I've already done. The ME machine
just appears to have no interest in the network. When I
select My Network Places and select Entire Network it
comes up a complete blank. The sharing buttons come on in
the Control Panels but that's basically the only
indication I have that anything has changed. Only thing I
will note is that the TCP/IP that is supposed to be bound
to the network adapter and marked (home)...well isn't
there on the network configuration list. Tried re-running
the wizard and also tried uninstalling / reinstalling
ICS...which actually didn't do anything anyway.

The XP client machine recognises a LAN connection in the
network connections window, but on the Status screen
says "Limited or no connectivity". My Network Places does
at least show the shared drives etc on the XP machine.

I do have Norton running on both machines, but THOUGHT I'd
allowed access to the respective network PC. However, when
I tried to run the Networking wizard in Norton for the
firewall on the ME machine it says it can't find a network.

I think this is probably a deeper problem than I first
thought. Any more ideas?


-----Original Message-----
In article
, N.
Miller wrote:
I am trying to network my 2 PCs. The host is running
ME
and has a D-Link DFE-528TX Ethernet adapter. The other
PC
is running XP and has a built in LAN on the
motherboard
(Realtek 8100C 10/100mbps Ethernet). I have connected
the
2 via a crossover cable as I understand this is
supposed
to be a very easy way of doing things.

I ran the network wizard on ME then on the XP machine,
but
beyond that I haven't a clue what to do. OK OK I'm
thick,
but someone said it was easy. I can't get either PC to
see
the other PC in any way shape or form. Although if I
unplug the cable from the ME machine the XP macine
recognises the connection is broken.

Can someone give me a step by step? I find the MS site
too
painful to go through and to be frank it has confused
me
totally. I essentially want to share my ADSL
connection,
printers and hard drives. A bonus would be to for XP
to
share my ME DVD drive but not sure if that's possible.
Oh
and when the 2 PCs are connected I cannot connect to
the
internet through the host PC either!!

Please help.

Run XP's network wizard on both computers. On XP,
tell it to share
the ADSL Internet connection. On ME, tell it that
the computer
connects to the Internet through another computer on
the network. The
Wizard will make all of the necessary settings for
sharing Internet
access, files, and printers. I've written a web page
with details:

Would that be backward if the Me computer was connected
to the ADSL modem? I
only ask because the only part of the whole of the OP's
posts which
identifies which computer will have the Internet
connection is the part
where he states that, "The host is running ME...". I
would have taken that
to mean that the Me computer had the Internet connection.

After re-reading the original question, I think that
you're right and
that I misunderstood it. Since the host is running ME,
my answer was
wrong. Thanks for pointing it out.

Also, but I don't have a Winodws XP - Windows Me LAN
to test this on, it
seems to me that I would run the native Wizard on each
computer. On the
Internet (host) computer I would instruct the (native)
Wizard that this
computer would share the Intnernet connection, and point
the ICS part to the
Internet connection. On the other (client) computer I
would instruct the
(native) Wizard that the computer would connect to the
Internet through
another network computer.

ME's wizard won't run on XP. XP's wizard runs on XP, ME,
and 98, and
is meant for use on all computers when using XP as the
host.

On the one hand, I am really reluctant to get Windows
XP. I don't think my
computer would handle the upgrade, and I don't
particularly care for the
"Product Aggravation" thingy. If I ever accumulate
enough money for a more
capable computer (this is a 700MHz Celeron with 192
MBytes of RAM, and two
HDDs totalling 60 GBytes; at the risk of overstraining
the wimpy little 100W
power supply that HP saw fit to put in their Pavilions
in 200), I was going
to get some version of Linux.

I think that XP would run fine on that computer.

On the other hand, all of my friends and relatives are
getting Windows XP,
then asking me for help. There really isn't much advice
that I can give
without actually getting a Windows XP system. Hmmm.
Maybe a low end, "El
Cheapo" entry level system with XP Home as a "test bed";
and save the rest
of the bucks for a whizbang *nix box.

You can get a new computer, complete with monitor and
printer, for
around $400 (after rebates) at computer stores and office
supply
stores in the USA.

Now to find a job...
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
.

In article , Steve Winograd
[MVP] says...

In article , N.
Miller wrote:

In article , Steve Winograd
[MVP] says...

Run XP's network wizard on both computers. On XP, tell it to share
the ADSL Internet connection. On ME, tell it that the computer
connects to the Internet through another computer on the network. The
Wizard will make all of the necessary settings for sharing Internet
access, files, and printers. I've written a web page with details:

Would that be backward if the Me computer was connected to the ADSL modem? I
only ask because the only part of the whole of the OP's posts which
identifies which computer will have the Internet connection is the part
where he states that, "The host is running ME...". I would have taken that
to mean that the Me computer had the Internet connection.

After re-reading the original question, I think that you're right and
that I misunderstood it. Since the host is running ME, my answer was
wrong. Thanks for pointing it out.

Just checking...

Also, but I don't have a Winodws XP - Windows Me LAN to test this on, it
seems to me that I would run the native Wizard on each computer. On the
Internet (host) computer I would instruct the (native) Wizard that this
computer would share the Intnernet connection, and point the ICS part to the
Internet connection. On the other (client) computer I would instruct the
(native) Wizard that the computer would connect to the Internet through
another network computer.

ME's wizard won't run on XP.

I hope I didn't imply that it would...

XP's wizard runs on XP, ME, and 98, and is meant for use on all computers when
using XP as the host.

But, if Windows Me is the host, I would think it best to run the Me Wizard
on the Me computer, and the XP Wizard on the XP computer.

...I am really reluctant to get Windows XP. I don't think my
computer would handle the upgrade...

I think that XP would run fine on that computer.

HP seems to think I need a BIOS upgrade to even try. I have the binary to
flash the BIOS, but would rather not attempt futzing with the BIOS until I
have another computer ready to go. I can fix hardware problems, like the
dead P.S. fan. I can fix software problems, like the odd crash that required
a reset of some program preferences. But, if I screw up the BIOS, I have an
expensive doorstop.

Maybe a low end, "El Cheapo" entry level system with XP Home as a
"test bed"...

You can get a new computer, complete with monitor and printer, for
around $400 (after rebates) at computer stores and office supply
stores in the USA.

I need the job, first. Hmmm. One of those computer stores, maybe...

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Tip #1 on all PCs

and be sure to uninstall all firewalls before beginning.

Carey

"Paul W" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your help guys but......

That's essentially what I've already done. The ME machine
just appears to have no interest in the network. When I
select My Network Places and select Entire Network it
comes up a complete blank. The sharing buttons come on in
the Control Panels but that's basically the only
indication I have that anything has changed. Only thing I
will note is that the TCP/IP that is supposed to be bound
to the network adapter and marked (home)...well isn't
there on the network configuration list. Tried re-running
the wizard and also tried uninstalling / reinstalling
ICS...which actually didn't do anything anyway.

The XP client machine recognises a LAN connection in the
network connections window, but on the Status screen
says "Limited or no connectivity". My Network Places does
at least show the shared drives etc on the XP machine.

I do have Norton running on both machines, but THOUGHT I'd
allowed access to the respective network PC. However, when
I tried to run the Networking wizard in Norton for the
firewall on the ME machine it says it can't find a network.

I think this is probably a deeper problem than I first
thought. Any more ideas?


-----Original Message-----
In article
, N.
Miller wrote:
I am trying to network my 2 PCs. The host is running
ME
and has a D-Link DFE-528TX Ethernet adapter. The other
PC
is running XP and has a built in LAN on the
motherboard
(Realtek 8100C 10/100mbps Ethernet). I have connected
the
2 via a crossover cable as I understand this is
supposed
to be a very easy way of doing things.

I ran the network wizard on ME then on the XP machine,
but
beyond that I haven't a clue what to do. OK OK I'm
thick,
but someone said it was easy. I can't get either PC to
see
the other PC in any way shape or form. Although if I
unplug the cable from the ME machine the XP macine
recognises the connection is broken.

Can someone give me a step by step? I find the MS site
too
painful to go through and to be frank it has confused
me
totally. I essentially want to share my ADSL
connection,
printers and hard drives. A bonus would be to for XP
to
share my ME DVD drive but not sure if that's possible.
Oh
and when the 2 PCs are connected I cannot connect to
the
internet through the host PC either!!

Please help.

Run XP's network wizard on both computers. On XP,
tell it to share
the ADSL Internet connection. On ME, tell it that
the computer
connects to the Internet through another computer on
the network. The
Wizard will make all of the necessary settings for
sharing Internet
access, files, and printers. I've written a web page
with details:

Would that be backward if the Me computer was connected
to the ADSL modem? I
only ask because the only part of the whole of the OP's
posts which
identifies which computer will have the Internet
connection is the part
where he states that, "The host is running ME...". I
would have taken that
to mean that the Me computer had the Internet connection.

After re-reading the original question, I think that
you're right and
that I misunderstood it. Since the host is running ME,
my answer was
wrong. Thanks for pointing it out.

Also, but I don't have a Winodws XP - Windows Me LAN
to test this on, it
seems to me that I would run the native Wizard on each
computer. On the
Internet (host) computer I would instruct the (native)
Wizard that this
computer would share the Intnernet connection, and point
the ICS part to the
Internet connection. On the other (client) computer I
would instruct the
(native) Wizard that the computer would connect to the
Internet through
another network computer.

ME's wizard won't run on XP. XP's wizard runs on XP, ME,
and 98, and
is meant for use on all computers when using XP as the
host.

On the one hand, I am really reluctant to get Windows
XP. I don't think my
computer would handle the upgrade, and I don't
particularly care for the
"Product Aggravation" thingy. If I ever accumulate
enough money for a more
capable computer (this is a 700MHz Celeron with 192
MBytes of RAM, and two
HDDs totalling 60 GBytes; at the risk of overstraining
the wimpy little 100W
power supply that HP saw fit to put in their Pavilions
in 200), I was going
to get some version of Linux.

I think that XP would run fine on that computer.

On the other hand, all of my friends and relatives are
getting Windows XP,
then asking me for help. There really isn't much advice
that I can give
without actually getting a Windows XP system. Hmmm.
Maybe a low end, "El
Cheapo" entry level system with XP Home as a "test bed";
and save the rest
of the bucks for a whizbang *nix box.

You can get a new computer, complete with monitor and
printer, for
around $400 (after rebates) at computer stores and office
supply
stores in the USA.

Now to find a job...
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
.

In article , "Carey Holzman"
wrote:
Thanks for your help guys but......

That's essentially what I've already done. The ME machine
just appears to have no interest in the network. When I
select My Network Places and select Entire Network it
comes up a complete blank. The sharing buttons come on in
the Control Panels but that's basically the only
indication I have that anything has changed. Only thing I
will note is that the TCP/IP that is supposed to be bound
to the network adapter and marked (home)...well isn't
there on the network configuration list. Tried re-running
the wizard and also tried uninstalling / reinstalling
ICS...which actually didn't do anything anyway.

The XP client machine recognises a LAN connection in the
network connections window, but on the Status screen
says "Limited or no connectivity". My Network Places does
at least show the shared drives etc on the XP machine.

I do have Norton running on both machines, but THOUGHT I'd
allowed access to the respective network PC. However, when
I tried to run the Networking wizard in Norton for the
firewall on the ME machine it says it can't find a network.

I think this is probably a deeper problem than I first
thought. Any more ideas?

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Tip #1 on all PCs

and be sure to uninstall all firewalls before beginning.

Carey

Paul, Carey's Tip #1 doesn't apply to Windows XP, because, with a
single exception, the settings that it tells you to check don't exist
in XP. Don't be surprised when you can't follow the tip.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm