windows explorer file man won't shut down

Hi folks

Trying to shut down my Windows Explorer file manager by any means I
know fails and results in this message:
__________
restrictions |
---------------- |---------------------
This operation has been cancelled due to restrictions in effect on
this computer. Please contact your system administrator
---------------------------------------

ctrl+alt+ del shutdown WE = same message.
Then the "prog not responding box
Click shutdown = WE shuts down
All sys tray items deleted ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

This happened mid session and so far as I know, I didn't do a thing to
cause it.
The error message doesn't quite ring true to me (as a genuine MS
message) MS's language skills are usually clumsier.

Other file manager works OK still.
So far as I can see, all other progs work OK

This is a first for me in all 12 yrs I've been using win 98

============================== Machine info
Operating System Microsoft Windows 98
OS Service Pack -
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name TOSHIBA
User Name User

Motherboard
CPU Type Mobile Intel Pentium II PE, 400 MHz (6 x 67)
Motherboard Name Unknown
Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX/ZX
System Memory 256 MB (SDRAM)
BIOS Type Toshiba (12/31/99)
===========================
Hope someone can help me on this.

yours

douglas

koonaone wrote in

oups.com:

Just a guess, I've only had one virus problem in 20 years, but
it sounds like an infection.

You could put the drive into another machine and scan /your/
drive's OS partition using that machine's AV program.

If you have no access to another machine, or can't get into
Windows without this happening, get a DOS virus scanner (ESET
has a DOS version). It /might/ tell you something.

Most current AV programs only run on XP and up. You might
consider doing a dual-install of XP along with 98. I have this,
and use it VERY infrequently, but it comes in handy for a couple
of programs/hardware incompatible with 9x.

koonaone wrote:
Hi folks

Trying to shut down my Windows Explorer file manager by any means I
know fails and results in this message:
__________
restrictions |
---------------- |---------------------
This operation has been cancelled due to restrictions in effect on
this computer. Please contact your system administrator
---------------------------------------
Put "This operation has been cancelled due to restrictions in effect on
this computer" in the search box in Goggle or another search engine.


This link seems to indicate a Browser problem. Futher searching will
probably give you the solution:


http://techsalsa.com/solution-to-thi...this-computer/

Check out this one also, (by the Cause header).
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325478

Buffalo

Buffalo wrote:

Check out this one also, (by the Cause header).
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325478

Yea, I came across that one too.

But it doesn't make sense.

In that KB, the problem is encounted on a system running Office XP. The
solution is to obtain a new version of MSo.dll.

The "cause" - as described in that KB - is not really a cause but rather
is a description of an alternate symptom or condition, which is:

===========
This problem may occur when you apply the Only run allowed Windows
Applications (RestrictRun) system policy on a Microsoft Windows 98-based
computer or a Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition-based computer.
===========

Unless there's something I'm missing here - can you run Office XP on
win-98?

On a win-98 system with Office 2000, there is no "mso.dll" file.

Thanks guys, registry won't allow that particular adjustment.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\. html
there is no entry
for html

Can someone guide me through CREATING such an entry?

I made IE default browser like jo suggested.
NOW I can't reverse it.
AND now both Win Expl and Int Expl BOTH give me the fkng message.
And yes I googled it.....

This is definitly a hack. Not a malicious one, but irritating as hell.
WTF did it come from?

1/ I NEVER open IExpl, just use the .dll's etc. No prob.
2/ WExpl is convenient, that's all. I regularly use XYplorer which is
much more versatile. The way I have it set up though it's heavy duty.
So I liked WE as a quick and dirty look and see.

Stuff works just fine... BUT someone stuck a stick in my spokes and
I'm ****ed.

When it comes right down to it I resent having my habits manipulated
by some bozo, who may very well evceed my level of understanding in
these matters, but who nevertheless has generated a certain ENMITY.

douglas USMCR 1964


98 Guy wrote:
Buffalo wrote:

Check out this one also, (by the Cause header).
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325478

Yea, I came across that one too.

But it doesn't make sense.

In that KB, the problem is encounted on a system running Office XP. The
solution is to obtain a new version of MSo.dll.

The "cause" - as described in that KB - is not really a cause but rather
is a description of an alternate symptom or condition, which is:

===========
This problem may occur when you apply the Only run allowed Windows
Applications (RestrictRun) system policy on a Microsoft Windows 98-based
computer or a Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition-based computer.
===========

Unless there's something I'm missing here - can you run Office XP on
win-98?

On a win-98 system with Office 2000, there is no "mso.dll" file.

koonaone wrote in

oups.com:

I made IE default browser like jo suggested.

VERY bad move. You should NEVER use IE. NEVER.

N E V E R.

NOW I can't reverse it.

Of course not. Just like when you get cholera it's not easy to
get rid of it.

AND now both Win Expl and Int Expl BOTH give me the fkng
message. And yes I googled it.....

This is definitly a hack. Not a malicious one, but
irritating as hell. WTF did it come from?

You'll never know. Just be glad it's not worse.

1/ I NEVER open IExpl, just use the .dll's etc. No prob.

Ya think? ;-}

2/ WExpl is convenient, that's all. I regularly use
XYplorer which is much more versatile. The way I have it
set up though it's heavy duty. So I liked WE as a quick and
dirty look and see.

XY looks pretty good, but judging by the screenshots, it does
too many things a file manager does not need to do, and possibly
does NOT do SOME things it SHOULD. I bought and use Total
Commander - I can't remember the last time I used WE. It is
totally useless.

I have this saved to paste when appropriate:

Windows Explorer is NOT a file manager. It is a torture device
whose primary function is to prevent a new computer user from
understanding the basic principles of file and directory
organization, to keep him/her as ignorant as possible, and to
allow only the most basic of functions, the execution of which
is designed to be as troublesome as possible.

Stuff works just fine... BUT someone stuck a stick in my
spokes and I'm ****ed.

Doesn't sound like "stuff works just fine".

snip

Check out this one also, (by the Cause header).
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325478

Yea, I came across that one too.

But it doesn't make sense.

It's from the MS KB, why should it make sense? No one at MS (or
anywhere else) understands /everything/ that happens in Windows.

snip

This problem may occur when you apply the Only run allowed
Windows Applications (RestrictRun) system policy on a
Microsoft Windows 98-based computer or a Microsoft Windows
Millennium Edition-based computer. ===========

Unless there's something I'm missing here - can you run
Office XP on win-98?

Oh, yes, you can even run Office 2010 on Win95!

[sigh]

On a win-98 system with Office 2000, there is no "mso.dll"
file.

I suggest you get rid of Office and use one of several
alternatives. About 5% of people who have ANY version of Office
installed use it for less than can be achieved with WordPad and
a free or $20 small spreadsheet program. There are also
alternatives to Powerpoint, and if you tell me you actually use
Access, I will not believe you.

Now, AFA Internet Explorer.

I see you use K-Meleon. I tried it, but dumped it, just like I
dumped Firefox, the most overrated piece of software after
Photoshop. Many people DO like Firefox, but I believe the best
one is Opera. It appears most people are not smart enough to
either understand that, or to take the time to learn how to use
it.

I use the Opera10usb version, modified (with Opera's permission)
by a nice person named Obermair Markus. It is designed to run
off a USB drive without installation, but I have it installed
normally on my HD and it rocks.

Apparently later versions do not work on 98 systems, but there
is very little reason to get the latest version of ANYTHING
except your A-V program signature file. I still use many
programs from 10 years ago (and earlier) and I would not switch
for anything.

Unless you are heavily into Flash and javascript (and some
important sites you may need to visit DO require them, like your
bank), you might want to try the smallest, fastest, and 100%
safe browser which almost no one knows about - it is not even
mentioned in Wikipedia's list of browsers (I guess if you can't
Facebook or watch YouTube on it, it's just worthless).

http://offbyone.com

You're welcome.

thanatoid wrote in
:

correction:

About 5% of people who have ANY version of
Office installed use it for less than can be achieved with
WordPad and a free or $20 small spreadsheet program.

should read:

About 95% of people who have ANY version of Office
installed use it for less than can be achieved with WordPad and
a free or $20 small spreadsheet program.

On Feb 24, 10:19 pm, thanatoid wrote:

OH thanatoid thank god you showed up


I made IE default browser like jo suggested.
VERY bad move. You should NEVER use IE. NEVER N E V E R.

1/ I NEVER open IExpl, just use the .dll's etc.
No prob

Ya think? ;-}
Duh. ya.

XY looks pretty good, but judging by the screenshots, it does
too many things a file manager does not need to do, and possibly
does NOT do SOME things it SHOULD.
Like WHAT?

Doesn't sound like "stuff works just fine".
well, at night all catsare gray too.
Check out this one also, (by the Cause header).
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325478
RIGHT and be subjected to this ****e:
When this system policy is enabled, users can run only applications
listed in the value data field of a particular registry key.
Applications
that can run and start other applications are also restricted to the
applications that appear in this value data field.

Then of course they never ID the reg Key. DUH

Nice your satisfied with wordpad, me I NEVER use MS prods
if I can help it. I use Textmaker. They are krauts though.

a free or $20 small spreadsheet program.
Me, I use QubeCalc ver 3.01 (c) FormalSoft 1986, Sandy, Utah.
YUP, DOS still works fine. And no, no one has come up with an
alternative cubical spreadsheet that comes close yet.

I see you use K-Meleon. I tried it, but dumped it, just like I
dumped Firefox, the most overrated piece of software after
Photoshop. Many people DO like Firefox, but I believe the best
one is Opera. It appears most people are not smart enough to
either understand that, or to take the time to learn how to use
it.
You mean you reject the svelt sleek lines of Off by One, you CAD.
But then, clearly you ARE both smart enough to understand that
OperaRules, AND willing to put in the enormous amount of time
required to fully MASTER opera 10. A masterpiece of code writing
so great in size and force and sheer extent as to elicit awe.
Few would dare make your claims , certainly not with such
self effacing candor, such appealing modesty.

I use the Opera10usb version, modified (with Opera's permission)
How did you rate Operas permission? You speak Scandihooverian?

Unless you are heavily into Flash and javascript

Just WTF do you think I use K-Meleon?

You're welcome.

Well you are welcome too, and thanks for the opratoonity to
have so much fun. Get my mind off my problem. WHICH by the way,
you haven't done a fng thing to help me solve.

\ /
(OO)
\/
/
/
OO_______DOUGLAS

The flying spaghetti monster horny ASCII hoot owl.

This is the
OP ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Ta DAAAAAAA,

I would like to solve this problem just to satisfy my curiosity.

I should let fellow forumeniferuns know though, that this machine is
destined to be wiped, and ruled by puppy linux for ever after. It
allows me to get more out of an aging machine. It's going to control
my whole greenhouse and chicken coops environment, temp, humidity,
ventilation louvers, vidcam surveilance, lights, music, (plants and
chickens love good music), and I can read up on
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion while I groove with Randy
Bachman (Bachman Turner Overdrive anyone?) and my pet Brocolli's. well
there IS my pet hen too. That's a story for another day though.

So

koonaone wrote:
On Feb 24, 10:19 pm, thanatoid wrote:

OH thanatoid thank god you showed up

ps. thanatoid, is this too early in the morning for you? or what?
Rooster's been awake for hours.

koonaone wrote in

oups.com:

This is the
OP ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Ta DAAAAAAA,

Talk about humble.

I would like to solve this problem just to satisfy my
curiosity.

WHAT is the problem, exactly?

I should let fellow forumeniferuns know though, that this
machine is destined to be wiped, and ruled by puppy linux
for ever after. It allows me to get more out of an aging
machine. It's going to control my whole greenhouse and
chicken coops environment, temp, humidity, ventilation
louvers, vidcam surveilance, lights, music, (plants and
chickens love good music), and I can read up on
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion while I groove with
Randy Bachman (Bachman Turner Overdrive anyone?) and my pet
Brocolli's. well there IS my pet hen too. That's a story
for another day though.

Hmm. A Randy Bachman fan. Sigh.

So

koonaone wrote:
On Feb 24, 10:19 pm, thanatoid
wrote:

OH thanatoid thank god you showed up

ps. thanatoid, is this too early in the morning for you? or
what? Rooster's been awake for hours.

I go to sleep late and get up late.

BTW, how about getting a real newsreader? I can NOT believe
someone with your apparent intelligence is a ****ing
Googlegrouper. I used to have all those filtered out, but then I
started missing all the fun.