free Windows 98 Registry Cleaners

Hi

Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that will do a great job of
cleaning unwanted registry entries from the registry in Windows 98 first
edition and Windows 98 Second edition?

Please reply soon.

Thanks.

Egan

You may want to try EasyCleaner by Toni Arts. Go directly to his
website or try downloading from here;
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download414.html


"Egan" wrote in message
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Hi

Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that will do a great
job of
cleaning unwanted registry entries from the registry in Windows 98
first
edition and Windows 98 Second edition?

Please reply soon.

Thanks.

Egan

There is no such thing. Every Registry "cleaner" takes out items that it
should not and causes anything from minor to major problems.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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"Egan" wrote in message
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Hi

Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that will do a great job of
cleaning unwanted registry entries from the registry in Windows 98 first
edition and Windows 98 Second edition?

Please reply soon.

There are some reg cleaner that do take out some
un-needed junk, but that is about it.
I wish they do more cleaning, as Microsoft and other companies
uses the registry to store lots of junk.
The bigger the registry size the slower the computer.
I use Registry First Aid, it is not free, it does maybe
about 5% cleaning, not enough but better than nothing.
Been using it for couple years, and seems to be quite safe.



"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
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There is no such thing. Every Registry "cleaner" takes out items that it
should not and causes anything from minor to major problems.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Egan" wrote in message
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Hi

Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that will do a great job
of
cleaning unwanted registry entries from the registry in Windows 98 first
edition and Windows 98 Second edition?

Please reply soon.

Exactly!!!!
The best registry cleaner is either (choose a or b of the below):
a) none, or
b) you doing it manually and knowing *exactly* what you are doing! (And
if you don't, you shouldn't be there!).

Richard G. Harper wrote:
There is no such thing. Every Registry "cleaner" takes out items that it
should not and causes anything from minor to major problems.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Egan" wrote in message
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Hi

Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that will do a great job
of
cleaning unwanted registry entries from the registry in Windows 98 first
edition and Windows 98 Second edition?

Please reply soon.

Have to agree with the assessment. At one time or another, any registry
cleaner may cause problems. The best I've found costs money and has been
around for quite some time, Norton Cleansweep's registry sweep. Registry
sweep has 3 levels of cleaning, marked in green, yellow, and red. Green is
the recommended level, its safe sweep level, that's all I've ever used
without problems. Hasn't done any apparent damage to date. The other two
levels when I've tried them sometimes do cause problems even though I can
pick and choose which entry to remove from the registry. Using the
standalone product, not the version with Norton Utilities which disgusts me
for many reasons. Don't believe versions after CS 2002 version work well
with 98/98SE OS if at all.

Examples of stuff that accumulate and are not needed are tmp file references
for installed 3rd party programs, partitions no longer valid for sources of
software installs are typical removals on my system.
Some marked in yellow (not safe sweep level) I know are safe to remove by
experience, the rest I leave alone. There are references marked in red to
IE4 and other's windows initial install stuff that I won't touch. Alot of
it, am totally unsure of. When this stuff builds up to high, its time to
clean install 98SE again. The evidence is staring me in the face. Usually
takes about a year for this to happen.
Well, I'm logging off. Some guy dialup in Houston is pinging the heck out
of my PC. This will change my IP.

--
Lil' Dave
Beware the rule quoters, the corp mindset, the Borg
Else you will be absorbed
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
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There is no such thing. Every Registry "cleaner" takes out items that it
should not and causes anything from minor to major problems.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Egan" wrote in message
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Hi

Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that will do a great job
of
cleaning unwanted registry entries from the registry in Windows 98 first
edition and Windows 98 Second edition?

Please reply soon.

I have only read a third of the replies to this post, but a thought
occured to me and I thought I would post this at the end of
the last one. (according to my server)

So, here goes.........
"Why doesnt Microsoft offer end users a Registry Cleaner??".???
Surely its programmers could write something in their sleep far
superior to any third party offerings?
Perhaps even Gary or Glee or many others could do it......
or any other representitive of Microsoft who has the claim to have
the 'mvp' in front of their names.

This is not a 'dig' at anyone or anything, it is merely a 'noticing' of
similar
posts that come into this group.

I guess what I am saying is, "why would microsoft not want to assist its
end users with a completely practical solution to an ongoing problem"?
Perhaps you can answer Bill?
*I'm sure some here have direct access to his email addy.

Anyhow, i've been told by others that sometimes my solutions are "too
simple", and hence dont get recognition....... or perhaps its a $thing,
not sure myself as I can only see brother helping brother.

...Rex..

The simple fact is that for any registry cleaner to be 'totally safe' it
would have to know the origin of every entry in the registry - including
those that could not have been dreamt of when the editor was written.

A good case in point being the use in Office 2000 and higher of
install-on-demand, where registry entries are created at install time, but
these entries are redundant until the relevant piece of code is added at
some later date.
Norton and a number of other registry cleaners flag these entries for
deletion - but if you do that, and then come to install the
application/add-on later, it won't work, because the entries are no longer
there.

A registry editor that is 'totally safe' on the day it's written is NOT safe
a week (or even a day) later, because a new application will be written
with a new registry entry which the editor will want to play with (the same
problem as for anti-viruses).

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Rex" wrote in message
...
I have only read a third of the replies to this post, but a thought
occured to me and I thought I would post this at the end of
the last one. (according to my server)

So, here goes.........
"Why doesnt Microsoft offer end users a Registry Cleaner??".???
Surely its programmers could write something in their sleep far
superior to any third party offerings?
Perhaps even Gary or Glee or many others could do it......
or any other representitive of Microsoft who has the claim to have
the 'mvp' in front of their names.

This is not a 'dig' at anyone or anything, it is merely a 'noticing' of
similar
posts that come into this group.

I guess what I am saying is, "why would microsoft not want to assist its
end users with a completely practical solution to an ongoing problem"?
Perhaps you can answer Bill?
*I'm sure some here have direct access to his email addy.

Anyhow, i've been told by others that sometimes my solutions are "too
simple", and hence dont get recognition....... or perhaps its a $thing,
not sure myself as I can only see brother helping brother.

..Rex..

"Rex" wrote in message
...
I have only read a third of the replies to this post, but a thought
occured to me and I thought I would post this at the end of
the last one. (according to my server)

So, here goes.........
"Why doesnt Microsoft offer end users a Registry Cleaner??".???

Open REGEDIT and browse the Registry.
Now try to think like a programmer.

To write a Registry Cleaner, before you even begin to think
about distilling, cleansing, purefying, whatever,
first you have to deal with recognition.

You have to be able to identify and classify each and every Key,
and each and every Value within each and every Key.

To do that, you have to have a table or a database
containing each and every Key and Value.
and it has to be up-to-date at all times.

This present an impossible development challenge,
which, even if resolved, would then present
an equally insurmountable maintenance headache.

Surely its programmers could write something in their sleep far
superior to any third party offerings?

That's true, but it is NOT a solution.

I could develop a better treatment for cancer,
given the proper resources (people, money, time),
but it still would (probably) NOT be a cure.

Perhaps even Gary or Glee or many others could do it......
or any other representitive of Microsoft who has the claim to have
the 'mvp' in front of their names.

This is not a 'dig' at anyone or anything, it is merely a 'noticing' of
similar
posts that come into this group.

I guess what I am saying is, "why would microsoft not want to assist its
end users with a completely practical solution to an ongoing problem"?

They probably do. They just cannot do it in a reliable, economical manner.

FWIW, I've tried some registry cleaners and they rarely do what I want--they
offer to remove temporary references, etc., none of which is really causing
any problem.

Any real problems have to be dealt with as a deductive process, and for
this, you should be better than some fix-all code. Also note that most of
any influence accessing the registry database is likely to be at startup,
either of windows itself or the startup of some application, and that is not
likely to be a problem as, the app knows where to look.

The rest of the time the principal cost is just disk storage, and that's
pretty cheap these days, a lot less expensive than the time to fix something
that got needlessly messed up.

It is perhaps worth noting, that (I forget which) either Ron or Rick has
frequently championed the use of some sort of install monitor (or
uninstaller) to ensure, among other things, that your registry doesn't get
mucked up by bad installs, or by bad uninstalls, and that this would serve
the most important goal I'd think you'd want from this cleaner. The only
problem is remembering to use it! :-)
"Rex" wrote in message
...
I have only read a third of the replies to this post, but a thought
occured to me and I thought I would post this at the end of
the last one. (according to my server)

So, here goes.........
"Why doesnt Microsoft offer end users a Registry Cleaner??".???
Surely its programmers could write something in their sleep far
superior to any third party offerings?
Perhaps even Gary or Glee or many others could do it......
or any other representitive of Microsoft who has the claim to have
the 'mvp' in front of their names.

This is not a 'dig' at anyone or anything, it is merely a 'noticing' of
similar
posts that come into this group.

I guess what I am saying is, "why would microsoft not want to assist its
end users with a completely practical solution to an ongoing problem"?
Perhaps you can answer Bill?
*I'm sure some here have direct access to his email addy.

Anyhow, i've been told by others that sometimes my solutions are "too
simple", and hence dont get recognition....... or perhaps its a $thing,
not sure myself as I can only see brother helping brother.

..Rex..