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Old May 18th 04, 01:34 AM
John
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Default can't defrag or scandisk drive D

I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory error
when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D drive. It
will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in DOS, I
typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong command. I
need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon and I
don't know what to do. I have only the major programs
running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down and
I still get a memory error. Please help!!!
  #2  
Old May 18th 04, 04:05 AM
Bert Kinney
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Default can't defrag or scandisk drive D

Hi John,

This error message can be caused by a non standard cluster size for a disk
partition.
To check the cluster size, run Chkdsk at the DOS prompt and look for "Bytes
in each
allocation unit" and "Total disk space" then compare it with the table
below.


The following tables lists the default cluster sizes used by the FAT32 file
system.
Partition size Cluster size
-----------------------------------------------------------
512 MB to 8,191 MB 4 KB
8,192 MB to 16,383 MB 8 KB
16,384 MB to 32,767 MB 16 KB
Larger than 32,768 MB 32 KB

Description of Default Cluster Sizes for FAT32 File System
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../q192/3/22.asp

Your computer does not have enough free memory to defrag or run Scandisk
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../q229/1/54.asp

Solutions:

1. Return the system the builder and have them reset
the cluster size. They should be able to do it without
loosing all the data on the drive.

2. Use Fdisk to remove all the partitions on the drive
loosing all data and recreate them and do a clean install of Windows.

3. Reset the cluster size using Partition Magic. If you don't
have it, it will cost you. No free trial. In Partition Magic:
Go to operations/advanced/resize clusters.
PowerQuest PartitionMagic - Product Information:
http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/index.html

4. Reset a non-default cluster size using BootIt NG (BING) from Terabyte

A full featured 30 day free trial of BING can be downloaded at
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/

IMPORTANT: There is a slight possibility of data loss, so it's
recommended to back-up all important data before proceeding.

If the partition with the incorrect cluster size is the partition where
BING is installed, this operation will need to be preformed using
the BING floppy disk.

Install BING is not necessary to perform this function. Skip
the install and enter Maintenance mode.

1) Download and extract the BOOTITNG.ZIP file to its own directory.
2) Change to the directory used in step 1.
3) Type BOOTITNG then press enter or Windows users can double click on
BOOTITNG.EXE.
4) If you have accepted the terms, select the correct diskette drive from
the menu and press enter. You will be prompted to insert the diskette and
press enter when ready.
5) Insert the diskette in to the correct diskette drive and press enter.
After about a minute it will confirm either that the installation diskette
was created or that the diskette is bad.
6) If the diskette was bad, get a new formatted diskette and repeat the
appropriate steps; otherwise, you're done with step one.

Boot from the Installation Diskette
1) Make sure your system boot up sequence is A:/C: and not C:/A:. This
information is found in the CMOS setup. You should also disable the boot
sector virus protection option. If you leave the virus protection option
enabled then it will just get in the way.
2) Shut down and turn off your computer.
3) Insert the BootIt NG installation diskette in your A: drive then turn on
your computer.
4) If your system boots up as it normally does, see step 1, otherwise BootIt
NG will start to load from the diskette.

Start BING and click on Maintenance.
Click on Partition Work
Select the partition with the incorrect cluster size
Click Resize then OK ("Checking for errors" will appear)
Click Resize Without changing the size of the partition
A Warning to back-up all important data will be displayed
The resulting cluster size will also be displayed
Click Continue
When completed, click Close and Close again
Reboot and that should do it.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"John" wrote
I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory error
when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D drive. It
will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in DOS, I
typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong command. I
need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon and I
don't know what to do. I have only the major programs
running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down and
I still get a memory error. Please help!!!



  #3  
Old May 19th 04, 02:49 AM
John
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Default can't defrag or scandisk drive D

Thanks, the cluster size was too small. I thought when
you resize the partition it automatically set things. Now
it's working great........thanks!

John




This error message can be caused by a non standard

cluster size for a disk
partition.
To check the cluster size, run Chkdsk at the DOS prompt

and look for "Bytes
in each
allocation unit" and "Total disk space" then compare it

with the table
below.


The following tables lists the default cluster sizes used

by the FAT32 file
system.
Partition size Cluster size
-------------------------------------------------------

----
512 MB to 8,191 MB 4 KB
8,192 MB to 16,383 MB 8 KB
16,384 MB to 32,767 MB 16 KB
Larger than 32,768 MB 32 KB

Description of Default Cluster Sizes for FAT32 File System
http://support.microsoft.com/support...cles/q192/3/22

..asp

Your computer does not have enough free memory to defrag

or run Scandisk
http://support.microsoft.com/support...cles/q229/1/54

..asp

Solutions:

1. Return the system the builder and have them reset
the cluster size. They should be able to do it without
loosing all the data on the drive.

2. Use Fdisk to remove all the partitions on the drive
loosing all data and recreate them and do a clean install

of Windows.

3. Reset the cluster size using Partition Magic. If you

don't
have it, it will cost you. No free trial. In Partition

Magic:
Go to operations/advanced/resize clusters.
PowerQuest PartitionMagic - Product Information:
http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/index.html

4. Reset a non-default cluster size using BootIt NG

(BING) from Terabyte

A full featured 30 day free trial of BING can be

downloaded at
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/

IMPORTANT: There is a slight possibility of data loss, so

it's
recommended to back-up all important data before

proceeding.

If the partition with the incorrect cluster size is the

partition where
BING is installed, this operation will need to be

preformed using
the BING floppy disk.

Install BING is not necessary to perform this function.

Skip
the install and enter Maintenance mode.

1) Download and extract the BOOTITNG.ZIP file to its own

directory.
2) Change to the directory used in step 1.
3) Type BOOTITNG then press enter or Windows users can

double click on
BOOTITNG.EXE.
4) If you have accepted the terms, select the correct

diskette drive from
the menu and press enter. You will be prompted to

insert the diskette and
press enter when ready.
5) Insert the diskette in to the correct diskette drive

and press enter.
After about a minute it will confirm either that the

installation diskette
was created or that the diskette is bad.
6) If the diskette was bad, get a new formatted diskette

and repeat the
appropriate steps; otherwise, you're done with step one.

Boot from the Installation Diskette
1) Make sure your system boot up sequence is A:/C: and

not C:/A:. This
information is found in the CMOS setup. You should also

disable the boot
sector virus protection option. If you leave the virus

protection option
enabled then it will just get in the way.
2) Shut down and turn off your computer.
3) Insert the BootIt NG installation diskette in your A:

drive then turn on
your computer.
4) If your system boots up as it normally does, see step

1, otherwise BootIt
NG will start to load from the diskette.

Start BING and click on Maintenance.
Click on Partition Work
Select the partition with the incorrect cluster size
Click Resize then OK ("Checking for errors" will appear)
Click Resize Without changing the size of the partition
A Warning to back-up all important data will be displayed
The resulting cluster size will also be displayed
Click Continue
When completed, click Close and Close again
Reboot and that should do it.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"John" wrote
I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory

error
when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D drive. It
will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in

DOS, I
typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong

command. I
need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon and I
don't know what to do. I have only the major programs
running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down

and
I still get a memory error. Please help!!!



.

  #4  
Old May 19th 04, 03:06 AM
Steve Baron - KB3MM
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Default can't defrag or scandisk drive D

How did you resize the partition ?

"John" wrote in message
...
Thanks, the cluster size was too small. I thought when
you resize the partition it automatically set things. Now
it's working great........thanks!

John




This error message can be caused by a non standard

cluster size for a disk
partition.
To check the cluster size, run Chkdsk at the DOS prompt

and look for "Bytes
in each
allocation unit" and "Total disk space" then compare it

with the table
below.


The following tables lists the default cluster sizes used

by the FAT32 file
system.
Partition size Cluster size
-------------------------------------------------------

----
512 MB to 8,191 MB 4 KB
8,192 MB to 16,383 MB 8 KB
16,384 MB to 32,767 MB 16 KB
Larger than 32,768 MB 32 KB

Description of Default Cluster Sizes for FAT32 File System
http://support.microsoft.com/support...cles/q192/3/22

.asp

Your computer does not have enough free memory to defrag

or run Scandisk
http://support.microsoft.com/support...cles/q229/1/54

.asp

Solutions:

1. Return the system the builder and have them reset
the cluster size. They should be able to do it without
loosing all the data on the drive.

2. Use Fdisk to remove all the partitions on the drive
loosing all data and recreate them and do a clean install

of Windows.

3. Reset the cluster size using Partition Magic. If you

don't
have it, it will cost you. No free trial. In Partition

Magic:
Go to operations/advanced/resize clusters.
PowerQuest PartitionMagic - Product Information:
http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/index.html

4. Reset a non-default cluster size using BootIt NG

(BING) from Terabyte

A full featured 30 day free trial of BING can be

downloaded at
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/

IMPORTANT: There is a slight possibility of data loss, so

it's
recommended to back-up all important data before

proceeding.

If the partition with the incorrect cluster size is the

partition where
BING is installed, this operation will need to be

preformed using
the BING floppy disk.

Install BING is not necessary to perform this function.

Skip
the install and enter Maintenance mode.

1) Download and extract the BOOTITNG.ZIP file to its own

directory.
2) Change to the directory used in step 1.
3) Type BOOTITNG then press enter or Windows users can

double click on
BOOTITNG.EXE.
4) If you have accepted the terms, select the correct

diskette drive from
the menu and press enter. You will be prompted to

insert the diskette and
press enter when ready.
5) Insert the diskette in to the correct diskette drive

and press enter.
After about a minute it will confirm either that the

installation diskette
was created or that the diskette is bad.
6) If the diskette was bad, get a new formatted diskette

and repeat the
appropriate steps; otherwise, you're done with step one.

Boot from the Installation Diskette
1) Make sure your system boot up sequence is A:/C: and

not C:/A:. This
information is found in the CMOS setup. You should also

disable the boot
sector virus protection option. If you leave the virus

protection option
enabled then it will just get in the way.
2) Shut down and turn off your computer.
3) Insert the BootIt NG installation diskette in your A:

drive then turn on
your computer.
4) If your system boots up as it normally does, see step

1, otherwise BootIt
NG will start to load from the diskette.

Start BING and click on Maintenance.
Click on Partition Work
Select the partition with the incorrect cluster size
Click Resize then OK ("Checking for errors" will appear)
Click Resize Without changing the size of the partition
A Warning to back-up all important data will be displayed
The resulting cluster size will also be displayed
Click Continue
When completed, click Close and Close again
Reboot and that should do it.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"John" wrote
I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory

error
when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D drive. It
will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in

DOS, I
typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong

command. I
need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon and I
don't know what to do. I have only the major programs
running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down

and
I still get a memory error. Please help!!!



.


  #5  
Old May 21st 04, 01:48 AM
John
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Posts: n/a
Default can't defrag or scandisk drive D

With partiton magic.......had a 80GB and resized it into 3
drives, different sizes....


-----Original Message-----
How did you resize the partition ?

"John" wrote in

message
...
Thanks, the cluster size was too small. I thought when
you resize the partition it automatically set things.

Now
it's working great........thanks!

John




This error message can be caused by a non standard

cluster size for a disk
partition.
To check the cluster size, run Chkdsk at the DOS prompt

and look for "Bytes
in each
allocation unit" and "Total disk space" then compare it

with the table
below.


The following tables lists the default cluster sizes

used
by the FAT32 file
system.
Partition size Cluster size
----------------------------------------------------

---
----
512 MB to 8,191 MB 4 KB
8,192 MB to 16,383 MB 8 KB
16,384 MB to 32,767 MB 16 KB
Larger than 32,768 MB 32 KB

Description of Default Cluster Sizes for FAT32 File

System

http://support.microsoft.com/support...cles/q192/3/22
.asp

Your computer does not have enough free memory to

defrag
or run Scandisk

http://support.microsoft.com/support...cles/q229/1/54
.asp

Solutions:

1. Return the system the builder and have them reset
the cluster size. They should be able to do it without
loosing all the data on the drive.

2. Use Fdisk to remove all the partitions on the drive
loosing all data and recreate them and do a clean

install
of Windows.

3. Reset the cluster size using Partition Magic. If you

don't
have it, it will cost you. No free trial. In Partition

Magic:
Go to operations/advanced/resize clusters.
PowerQuest PartitionMagic - Product Information:
http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/index.html

4. Reset a non-default cluster size using BootIt NG

(BING) from Terabyte

A full featured 30 day free trial of BING can be

downloaded at
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/

IMPORTANT: There is a slight possibility of data loss,

so
it's
recommended to back-up all important data before

proceeding.

If the partition with the incorrect cluster size is the

partition where
BING is installed, this operation will need to be

preformed using
the BING floppy disk.

Install BING is not necessary to perform this function.

Skip
the install and enter Maintenance mode.

1) Download and extract the BOOTITNG.ZIP file to its

own
directory.
2) Change to the directory used in step 1.
3) Type BOOTITNG then press enter or Windows users

can
double click on
BOOTITNG.EXE.
4) If you have accepted the terms, select the correct

diskette drive from
the menu and press enter. You will be prompted to

insert the diskette and
press enter when ready.
5) Insert the diskette in to the correct diskette drive

and press enter.
After about a minute it will confirm either that the

installation diskette
was created or that the diskette is bad.
6) If the diskette was bad, get a new formatted

diskette
and repeat the
appropriate steps; otherwise, you're done with step

one.

Boot from the Installation Diskette
1) Make sure your system boot up sequence is A:/C: and

not C:/A:. This
information is found in the CMOS setup. You should also

disable the boot
sector virus protection option. If you leave the virus

protection option
enabled then it will just get in the way.
2) Shut down and turn off your computer.
3) Insert the BootIt NG installation diskette in your

A:
drive then turn on
your computer.
4) If your system boots up as it normally does, see

step
1, otherwise BootIt
NG will start to load from the diskette.

Start BING and click on Maintenance.
Click on Partition Work
Select the partition with the incorrect cluster size
Click Resize then OK ("Checking for errors" will

appear)
Click Resize Without changing the size of the partition
A Warning to back-up all important data will be

displayed
The resulting cluster size will also be displayed
Click Continue
When completed, click Close and Close again
Reboot and that should do it.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"John" wrote
I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory

error
when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D

drive. It
will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in

DOS, I
typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong

command. I
need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon

and I
don't know what to do. I have only the major

programs
running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down

and
I still get a memory error. Please help!!!


.


.

  #6  
Old May 21st 04, 03:34 AM
Bert Kinney
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Default can't defrag or scandisk drive D

Hi John,

It sounds like PM doesn't automatically apply standard
cluster sizes when resizing partitions. Bootit NG does.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


"John" wrote
With partiton magic.......had a 80GB and resized it into 3
drives, different sizes....


-----Original Message-----
How did you resize the partition ?



 




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