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clearing TIME_WAIT - how?
Mike:
1. Noone ever proposed that noone else besides WinME users are welcome here, I sure didn't. 2. Also didn't suggest the question to be inappropiate, merely to post in the XP group too, since affiliation with WinXP was mentioned. What's wrong with that? 3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers? Harry. "Mike M" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Did you post the same in the WinXP NG, Ogg? If not, maybe you should? Harry, So not only are those not running Win Me apparently unwelcome in these NGs but also asking questions about Win Me are now also inappropriate. g So what exactly do you think should be posting in these NGs and what should the question be about? :-) Note Ogg's network ICS host is running Win Me which by now I'm sure you understand means he is running Windows Millennium. vbg -- Mike Maltby |
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Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended up
in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the intestinal tract, it does. I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off when I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I never did smoke when I was asleep!! Cheers....Heather "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... lol Yes I've got to get the patches, these lozenges are no good for me they are making me feel quite ill and worse than actually smoking, don't worry haven't smoked since Friday night. Joan Heather wrote: LOL!! Did that and so far, so good. At Day 19 or so.....and no major cravings. Go get the patch and join me. Only one day of the *bitchies*. But that was Ron's fault, lol. He spoke to me. Silly man!! XX Figgs |
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3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers?
If you were to try reading this thread instead of getting all hot under the collar you would see I have replied to Ogg. -- Mike Maltby webster72n wrote: Mike: 1. Noone ever proposed that noone else besides WinME users are welcome here, I sure didn't. 2. Also didn't suggest the question to be inappropiate, merely to post in the XP group too, since affiliation with WinXP was mentioned. What's wrong with that? 3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers? |
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lol Wouldn't even think about the gum, teeth and gum don't mix g
I'm phoning the doctor in the morning, as the help group put my appointment back another week and can't put up with the lozenges that long want to get the patches on prescription if possible. It means a journey into town to get anything even the doctor and I'm not going near the only shop we have in the village to get fags so got to do something quick g Joan Heather wrote: Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended up in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the intestinal tract, it does. I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off when I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I never did smoke when I was asleep!! Cheers....Heather |
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clearing TIME_WAIT - how?
"Mike M" wrote in message ... 3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers? If you were to try reading this thread instead of getting all hot under the collar you would see I have replied to Ogg. That reply came in on my machine right *after* I posted, Mike. I apologize for that one, most humbly. Harry. -- Mike Maltby webster72n wrote: Mike: 1. Noone ever proposed that noone else besides WinME users are welcome here, I sure didn't. 2. Also didn't suggest the question to be inappropiate, merely to post in the XP group too, since affiliation with WinXP was mentioned. What's wrong with that? 3. How about giving Ogg a break with some pointers? |
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Joan & Heather,
this is to both of you *girls*, or should I say *ladies*: I used to smoke at least a pack a day, until I decided it was detrimental to my health, about twenty years ago. No patches, no pills and no hypnotist, just simple self-determination, which anyone can apply, app. you. You have to find an *overwhelming* reason for yourself to quit. In my case it was my health and that should hold true for most cases, including yours, but that's where your determination comes in, to *stay firm*. Once you have done that, you put the last pack away and never touch another *smoke*, which isn't to say 'the end of all temptation', because there will be plenty for awhile. Even in your dreams and, believe it or not, every now and then I still have one of those, but less and less. Think you can manage? (Dr.) Harry. "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... lol Wouldn't even think about the gum, teeth and gum don't mix g I'm phoning the doctor in the morning, as the help group put my appointment back another week and can't put up with the lozenges that long want to get the patches on prescription if possible. It means a journey into town to get anything even the doctor and I'm not going near the only shop we have in the village to get fags so got to do something quick g Joan Heather wrote: Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended up in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the intestinal tract, it does. I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off when I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I never did smoke when I was asleep!! Cheers....Heather |
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Got the patches this morning from the doctor and feeling great g
He gave me a prescription for the Stage One strength and another for when they are running out for the next stage. Don't have to pay because I get free prescriptions, just sorting out starting up a saving account so I can put some of what I would have spent on ciggys into it, I'll have something to show for it then. Joan Heather wrote: Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended up in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the intestinal tract, it does. I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off when I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I never did smoke when I was asleep!! Cheers....Heather |
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Fantastic, Joanie!! You will find they work ever so much better than
the lozenges (ugh) or the gum. And there is also Zyban to fall back on, which is really Welbutrin, a Prozac derivative. I didn't want that but Ron's doctor suggested it if I was going *snaky* with withdrawal. Not about to do that. XX Heather "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... Got the patches this morning from the doctor and feeling great g He gave me a prescription for the Stage One strength and another for when they are running out for the next stage. Don't have to pay because I get free prescriptions, just sorting out starting up a saving account so I can put some of what I would have spent on ciggys into it, I'll have something to show for it then. Joan Heather wrote: Dump the lozenges and don't even go near the nicotine gum!! I ended up in Emergency after using that some 20 years ago. Raunches the intestinal tract, it does. I am using *Nicoderm* and no problems other than I now take it off when I go to bed coz I was having nightmares with it on. Besides, I never did smoke when I was asleep!! Cheers....Heather |
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"Heather" wrote in message ... Fantastic, Joanie!! You will find they work ever so much better than the lozenges (ugh) or the gum. You've got to chew it right, Figgs. Not like Wrigleys! :-) It's getting too much of that deadly poison Nicotine that causes the problems! If nicotine, in itself, buggered the intestinal tract taken orally, smoking would do it too (esp. via pipe or cigar, but lots of cigs would - especially hand rolled). The point of the gum is it addresses the main reason for the addiction far better than patches can, because the delivery is periodic, not continuous - like with smoking. With patches you lose the rush and it's that loss that leads to constant stress and ultimate failure. Otherwise you're really addressing habits such as having something in your hand and sucking (God, I hope 'Loom isn't reading this or we'll be straight back in the gutter!). If you've been trying to quit for years it implies the form of your addiction is specifically to the drug and - if you chew it as directed - the gum is the most likely NRT to address the sudden, overpowering craving that eventually wears you down. Shane |
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"Shane" wrote in message ... "Heather" wrote in message ... Fantastic, Joanie!! You will find they work ever so much better than the lozenges (ugh) or the gum. You've got to chew it right, Figgs. Not like Wrigleys! :-) The major problem with that is that I hate chewing gum and never do...puts my "teeth on edge" as the saying goes. The point of the gum is it addresses the main reason for the addiction far better than patches can, because the delivery is periodic, not continuous - like with smoking. With patches you lose the rush and it's that loss that leads to constant stress and ultimate failure. Otherwise you're really addressing habits such as having something in your hand and sucking (God, I hope 'Loom isn't reading this or we'll be straight back in the gutter!). ROFL!! Lollipops/suckers were considered. If you've been trying to quit for years it implies the form of your addiction is specifically to the drug and - if you chew it as directed - the gum is the most likely NRT to address the sudden, overpowering craving that eventually wears you down. The patch is working extremely well......no overpowering urges, just the odd time I miss having a smoke. But that passes in seconds. As the booklet said, the urge will pass in the same amount of time "whether you smoke or ignore it" The main thing is that one has to reach the point where they truly want to quit....and I have. For many silly little reasons besides the health aspect. Stinky house, etc. I intend to make it this time and Elayne is laughing at me because my basic math was wrong....I have been smoking for more than 50 years (not 40)...and I am as calm as can be. No bitchies here, which amazes Ron. XX Figgs |
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