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  #11  
Old March 8th 08, 09:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Posts: 2,158
Default Sat connection to existing ethernet.

Got it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, s. Personally, I'm
static-IP-happy. Not real sure why, just feels better.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"pjp" wrote in message
...
Went to dynamic as that's what everything sortta seemed to "expect" and as
I'd never used a router before that seemed easiest as first try. As it
worked, figured leave as is though it appears if I want a server to be
"seen" I'll have to assign a static ip to that pc.

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
Why did you feel the need to switch from Static to Dynamic IPs? I run all

my
home network devices an Static IPs. Of course, I leave DHCP enabled, just

in
case. Yes, you can leave DHCP enabled and still use Static IPs, whether

they
are in the DHCP range or not.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"pjp" wrote in message
...
Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat dish
install etc. went.

If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all run
both
Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that
protocol.
The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the pcs

on
the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some
in-house
gaming and the like.

Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a 4
port
router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and

existing
switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them static.

All
existed as before.

Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to a
solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he
even
knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic under
XP
and
stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I
have

a
second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic

networking
at
all.

In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch

unpowered,
cables off back of pc etc. etc.

So here's how it went down and all's now working.

Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic ips.
Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a

moment
there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in range
of
router.
Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect

switch
to
router.
For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never
connect
..." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately could

use
the sat connection.

Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even less
than
I do when I feel I know so little myself









  #12  
Old March 10th 08, 02:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
pjp
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Posts: 76
Default Sat connection to existing ethernet.

Naw, everything is fine and works as before on the Intranet. Just if I want
to run a server can be seen by the internet, e.g. something like dyndns.

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...

If that's the way you go, use that link I provided before, for initial
setup. You may find that you're missing a file or update, or setting, that
would allow these to be "seen" [presuming you mean in Network

Neighborhood].

--

MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
_________


"pjp" wrote in message
...
| Went to dynamic as that's what everything sortta seemed to "expect" and

as
| I'd never used a router before that seemed easiest as first try. As it
| worked, figured leave as is though it appears if I want a server to be
| "seen" I'll have to assign a static ip to that pc.
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
| ...
| Why did you feel the need to switch from Static to Dynamic IPs? I run
all
| my
| home network devices an Static IPs. Of course, I leave DHCP enabled,
just
| in
| case. Yes, you can leave DHCP enabled and still use Static IPs,

whether
| they
| are in the DHCP range or not.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "pjp" wrote in message
| ...
| Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat

dish
| install etc. went.
|
| If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all
run
| both
| Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
| historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that
| protocol.
| The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the

pcs
| on
| the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some
| in-house
| gaming and the like.
|
| Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a

4
| port
| router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and
| existing
| switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them

static.
| All
| existed as before.
|
| Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to

a
| solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he
even
| knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic

under
XP
| and
| stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I
have
| a
| second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic
| networking
| at
| all.
|
| In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch
| unpowered,
| cables off back of pc etc. etc.
|
| So here's how it went down and all's now working.
|
| Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
| Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic

ips.
| Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
| Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a
| moment
| there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
| Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in

range
of
| router.
| Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect
| switch
| to
| router.
| For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never
| connect
| ..." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
| As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately

could
| use
| the sat connection.
|
| Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even

less
| than
| I do when I feel I know so little myself
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|




  #13  
Old March 10th 08, 02:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
pjp
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 76
Default Sat connection to existing ethernet.

Naw, everything is fine and works as before on the Intranet. Just if I want
to run a server can be seen by the internet, e.g. something like dyndns.

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...

If that's the way you go, use that link I provided before, for initial
setup. You may find that you're missing a file or update, or setting, that
would allow these to be "seen" [presuming you mean in Network

Neighborhood].

--

MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
_________


"pjp" wrote in message
...
| Went to dynamic as that's what everything sortta seemed to "expect" and

as
| I'd never used a router before that seemed easiest as first try. As it
| worked, figured leave as is though it appears if I want a server to be
| "seen" I'll have to assign a static ip to that pc.
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
| ...
| Why did you feel the need to switch from Static to Dynamic IPs? I run
all
| my
| home network devices an Static IPs. Of course, I leave DHCP enabled,
just
| in
| case. Yes, you can leave DHCP enabled and still use Static IPs,

whether
| they
| are in the DHCP range or not.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "pjp" wrote in message
| ...
| Asked for little advice awhile ago so thought I'd update how sat

dish
| install etc. went.
|
| If you remember, I have 8 pc's all networked via a switch. They all
run
| both
| Netbuie and TCP/IP. I know Netbuie's not required but it's there for
| historical reasons with File and Print sharing bound only to that
| protocol.
| The TCP/IP protocol used fixed IPs mainly to facilitate one of the

pcs
| on
| the network acting as a dialup proxy server, using PCAnywhere, some
| in-house
| gaming and the like.
|
| Along comes this high speed internet sat dish. Therefore purchased a

4
| port
| router. Before dish was installed, I connected router to pcs and
| existing
| switch. Change router to not assign ips electing to keep them

static.
| All
| existed as before.
|
| Guy comes with dish. All he knew how to do was connect Sat modem to

a
| solitary pc running XP!!! Turned out was more luck than anything he
even
| knew where dialog box was to change from static back to dynamic

under
XP
| and
| stated no clue at all about 98SE. He was totally confused by fact I
have
| a
| second nic in the XP pc and obviously knew nothing about basic
| networking
| at
| all.
|
| In any case, I come home to cables disconnected, router/switch
| unpowered,
| cables off back of pc etc. etc.
|
| So here's how it went down and all's now working.
|
| Take router and plug into modem on WAN port.
| Take a laptop, plug into router, call up setup, change to dynamic

ips.
| Change laptop accordingly also. Reboot both.
| Router comes alive, screen shows it's acguiring lease etc. and in a
| moment
| there's IPs etc. (seen via browser on laptop)
| Laptop immediately can connect and surf. It has a dynamic ip in

range
of
| router.
| Plug other pcs into router directly or leave in switch and connect
| switch
| to
| router.
| For every other pc (98SE or XP) change to Dynamic IP, insure "Never
| connect
| ..." under connections is set and clear out Proxy server info.
| As each pc rebooted, it got a dynamic IP address and immediately

could
| use
| the sat connection.
|
| Blimy, I hate paying people good money to find out they know even

less
| than
| I do when I feel I know so little myself
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|




  #14  
Old March 10th 08, 07:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default Sat connection to existing ethernet.



"pjp" wrote in message
...
| Naw, everything is fine and works as before on the Intranet. Just if I
want
| to run a server can be seen by the internet, e.g. something like dyndns.

AAAhhh, gotcha now. Best check with your provider to see if they allow that
[some can be particular]... then again, I don't know what you intend to use
it for.
http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/

|
| "MEB" meb@not wrote in message
| ...
|
| If that's the way you go, use that link I provided before, for initial
| setup. You may find that you're missing a file or update, or setting,
that
| would allow these to be "seen" [presuming you mean in Network
| Neighborhood].
|
| --
|
| MEB
--

MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
_________


  #15  
Old March 10th 08, 07:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default Sat connection to existing ethernet.



"pjp" wrote in message
...
| Naw, everything is fine and works as before on the Intranet. Just if I
want
| to run a server can be seen by the internet, e.g. something like dyndns.

AAAhhh, gotcha now. Best check with your provider to see if they allow that
[some can be particular]... then again, I don't know what you intend to use
it for.
http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/

|
| "MEB" meb@not wrote in message
| ...
|
| If that's the way you go, use that link I provided before, for initial
| setup. You may find that you're missing a file or update, or setting,
that
| would allow these to be "seen" [presuming you mean in Network
| Neighborhood].
|
| --
|
| MEB
--

MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
_________


 




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