Had Enough How do you remove AVG A/V from win ME

Tks Jean,
the version of AVG was the latest released from Grisoft.
after the third reinstall/uninstall, I was able to get most of the AV
program off the HD..
then 2 hours of registry cleaning and other program testing, the puter is
back to nearly the same startup speed it had before all this began...
I now have avast working on the puter.. As soon as I get use to its
operation I think I'll like it ever better.. ((as soon as i figure out
what is making the sound go nuts on startup))
"even as bad as the AVG had been it was still miles better than the
Symantic AV i had before it...

RTS

"Jean" wrote in message
...
You don't mention which version of AVG you are using. Part of your problem
with the system crashing might be that you don't have the current 7.5
version. At some point late last year, older versions of the program
became
"unsupported" (ie, they became incompatible with the current virus
def's/data).

Jean


"Rocky T Squirrel" wrote in message
...
| Tks Mart,
| I tried all kind's a tricks with no luck getting a smooth removal..
| So did the worst case brut force delete..
| Took 3 hours trying to get a the little #$%^ out but still a bunch in
the
| windows users area..
| I'm going to check the Grisoft web site and see if they got some kinda
| removal tool.
| If not I may have to scram the HD and start all over again..
|
| The AVG worked great till their first update of the program last year,
| since then its been a pain to use..
|
| RTS
|
| "Mart" wrote in message
| ...
| Can't find any reference to it in the uninstall feature of control
panel
| and no reference in the program itself..
|
| Including in "Add or Remove programs"?
|
| That may be the very reason that you're having the trouble. Sounds
like
a
| bad uninstall.
|
| Try re-installing it and then uninstall it - all being well, it'll
| uninstall
| all references, including those in the Registry. (N.B You *may* have
to
| remove odd remnant files and folders afterwards, but that is quite
| 'normal'
| after uninstalling many applications.)
|
| Mart
|
|
| "Rocky T Squirrel" wrote in message
| ...
| ever since the last few updates on Grisoft AVG its been crashing
the
| puter
| on startup when it gets to the AVG start screen..
|
| I've had enough, how do you remove the thing..
|
| Can't find any reference to it in the uninstall feature of control
panel
| and no reference in the program itself..
|
| Tks.
| RTS
|
|
|
|
|
|

I'd be interested to learn how you compare the start-up speed with Avast
versus AVG. I've noticed a slowdown in my system's start-up in the last
couple of weeks. I've disabled most start-up items, so I'm pretty sure that
the problem lies with AVG. Like you, I found that any antivirus program is
better than the Norton stuff (which is kinda like herpes ...you can maybe
keep it under control, but you can't get it totally out of your system).

Jean


"Rocky T Squirrel" wrote in message
...
| Tks Jean,
| the version of AVG was the latest released from Grisoft.
| after the third reinstall/uninstall, I was able to get most of the AV
| program off the HD..
| then 2 hours of registry cleaning and other program testing, the puter
is
| back to nearly the same startup speed it had before all this began...
| I now have avast working on the puter.. As soon as I get use to its
| operation I think I'll like it ever better.. ((as soon as i figure
out
| what is making the sound go nuts on startup))
| "even as bad as the AVG had been it was still miles better than the
| Symantic AV i had before it...
|
| RTS
|
| "Jean" wrote in message
| ...
| You don't mention which version of AVG you are using. Part of your
problem
| with the system crashing might be that you don't have the current 7.5
| version. At some point late last year, older versions of the program
| became
| "unsupported" (ie, they became incompatible with the current virus
| def's/data).
|
| Jean
|
|
| "Rocky T Squirrel" wrote in message
| ...
| | Tks Mart,
| | I tried all kind's a tricks with no luck getting a smooth removal..
| | So did the worst case brut force delete..
| | Took 3 hours trying to get a the little #$%^ out but still a bunch
in
| the
| | windows users area..
| | I'm going to check the Grisoft web site and see if they got some
kinda
| | removal tool.
| | If not I may have to scram the HD and start all over again..
| |
| | The AVG worked great till their first update of the program last
year,
| | since then its been a pain to use..
| |
| | RTS
| |
| | "Mart" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Can't find any reference to it in the uninstall feature of
control
| panel
| | and no reference in the program itself..
| |
| | Including in "Add or Remove programs"?
| |
| | That may be the very reason that you're having the trouble. Sounds
| like
| a
| | bad uninstall.
| |
| | Try re-installing it and then uninstall it - all being well, it'll
| | uninstall
| | all references, including those in the Registry. (N.B You *may*
have
| to
| | remove odd remnant files and folders afterwards, but that is quite
| | 'normal'
| | after uninstalling many applications.)
| |
| | Mart
| |
| |
| | "Rocky T Squirrel" wrote in message
| | ...
| | ever since the last few updates on Grisoft AVG its been crashing
| the
| | puter
| | on startup when it gets to the AVG start screen..
| |
| | I've had enough, how do you remove the thing..
| |
| | Can't find any reference to it in the uninstall feature of
control
| panel
| | and no reference in the program itself..
| |
| | Tks.
| | RTS
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|

Tks, Jean.
the way i do a rough test is the amount of time the puter stays in each
startup window, first start bio's screen usually the maker of the
motherboard, then the OS screen (ME screen), then the black screen for
irc's ports drivers etc... screen, then windows startup screen to finish
working screen..

with the screwedup AVG the OS screen was on for nearly 40 seconds..
after the best removal of the AVG the OS screen was down to 9 seconds..

now with Avast the OS screen is at about 9.5 seconds..

remember this is only a dirty rough guess of startup speeds.. )

RTS

"Jean" wrote in message
...
I'd be interested to learn how you compare the start-up speed with Avast
versus AVG. I've noticed a slowdown in my system's start-up in the last
couple of weeks. I've disabled most start-up items, so I'm pretty sure
that
the problem lies with AVG. Like you, I found that any antivirus program is
better than the Norton stuff (which is kinda like herpes ...you can maybe
keep it under control, but you can't get it totally out of your system).

Jean


"Rocky T Squirrel" wrote in message
...
| Tks Jean,
| the version of AVG was the latest released from Grisoft.
| after the third reinstall/uninstall, I was able to get most of the AV
| program off the HD..
| then 2 hours of registry cleaning and other program testing, the puter
is
| back to nearly the same startup speed it had before all this began...
| I now have avast working on the puter.. As soon as I get use to its
| operation I think I'll like it ever better.. ((as soon as i figure
out
| what is making the sound go nuts on startup))
| "even as bad as the AVG had been it was still miles better than the
| Symantic AV i had before it...
|
| RTS
|
| "Jean" wrote in message
| ...
| You don't mention which version of AVG you are using. Part of your
problem
| with the system crashing might be that you don't have the current 7.5
| version. At some point late last year, older versions of the program
| became
| "unsupported" (ie, they became incompatible with the current virus
| def's/data).
|
| Jean
|
|
| "Rocky T Squirrel" wrote in message
| ...
| | Tks Mart,
| | I tried all kind's a tricks with no luck getting a smooth
removal..
| | So did the worst case brut force delete..
| | Took 3 hours trying to get a the little #$%^ out but still a bunch
in
| the
| | windows users area..
| | I'm going to check the Grisoft web site and see if they got some
kinda
| | removal tool.
| | If not I may have to scram the HD and start all over again..
| |
| | The AVG worked great till their first update of the program last
year,
| | since then its been a pain to use..
| |
| | RTS
| |
| | "Mart" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Can't find any reference to it in the uninstall feature of
control
| panel
| | and no reference in the program itself..
| |
| | Including in "Add or Remove programs"?
| |
| | That may be the very reason that you're having the trouble. Sounds
| like
| a
| | bad uninstall.
| |
| | Try re-installing it and then uninstall it - all being well, it'll
| | uninstall
| | all references, including those in the Registry. (N.B You *may*
have
| to
| | remove odd remnant files and folders afterwards, but that is quite
| | 'normal'
| | after uninstalling many applications.)
| |
| | Mart
| |
| |
| | "Rocky T Squirrel" wrote in message
| | ...
| | ever since the last few updates on Grisoft AVG its been
crashing
| the
| | puter
| | on startup when it gets to the AVG start screen..
| |
| | I've had enough, how do you remove the thing..
| |
| | Can't find any reference to it in the uninstall feature of
control
| panel
| | and no reference in the program itself..
| |
| | Tks.
| | RTS
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:53:19 -0400, "Jean" wrote:

I'd be interested to learn how you compare the start-up speed with Avast
versus AVG. I've noticed a slowdown in my system's start-up in the last
couple of weeks. I've disabled most start-up items, so I'm pretty sure that
the problem lies with AVG. Like you, I found that any antivirus program is
better than the Norton stuff (which is kinda like herpes ...you can maybe
keep it under control, but you can't get it totally out of your system).

"Norton" have already crossed the trust line my embedding commercial
malware within the product to fret about whether you are entitled to
use it or not. Even if it were perfect in every other respect
(ROTFL), that alone would consign it to the Sony bin (i.e. life-long
boycott award) given the nature of what an av has to do.

Common reasons for bad mileage in AVG include:

1) Installing the email scanner component

If you...
- use dial-up networking
- have an av that scans outgoing email
- allow email app to disconnect when it is "done"
....then you are likely to silently lose outgoing mail, if the email
app disconnects the line after sending mail to what it thinks is the
server, while in reality the av is still fiddling with it before
sending it on. When the av's done, it finds the server's unavailable
because the line was dropped by the email app.

This is nasty, because the email app will report that mail as having
been successfully sent.

This generic problem pattern applies to several avs, including AVG 7.x
whereas AVG 6.x seemed to be OK.

The wrinkle is that it is not enough to disable the AVG 7.x email
scanning component after installation. The impact will persist, and
can be fixed only by deselecting the email scanning component at
install time, or by working around the issue by not allowong the email
app to disconnect the line when "done".

2) Leaving the duhfault "full system scan" enabled

By duuuuhfault, AVG 7.x will scan the whole system for viruses every
day at 8 am, and this is likely to slow down the PC for many hours
into the working day, and may also appear to slow down OS startup.

AVG 7.5 defaults to running this scan at low priority. That's good,
in that it has less dramatic speed impact, but bad in another way,
because the scan will take longer and thus impact more of the working
day. Why they didn't do these scans at 02:00 instead, I have no idea.

Disable this scan under Sheduler in Test Center. Really, think about
it - is the same av that missed the malware on entry, going to win an
eyeball-to-eyeball shootout with it while it is actively running?
Place your bets. Even if updated since entry, the malware's well
positioned to shoot the av down or poiison-pill the system.

3) Mishandling the AVG 7.5 upgrade

AVG 7.x needs to be upgraded to 7.5, and AVG does this very smoothly
if you do this the right way, i.e.:
- d'load 7.5 from free.grisoft.com (free) or www.grisoft.com (fee)
- run the package
- choose the middle of three options, i.e. "Repair"
- restart Windows when prompted
- update when Windows restarts

This procedure is clean, in that it won't install the email scanner if
you hadn't installed it before, will respect your settings, etc.
Lately it will re-create the Start Menu shortcuts, which is a pain if
you'd moved those around, but otherwise it's fine.

If you mess this up by doing a fresh install, then you may well invoke
problems (1) and (2) above.

None of this is WinME-specific, BTW. If there are any issues specific
to WinME, I don't know of them.



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