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For the few that have reported in here on this issue, it has seemed to work
for them too. glee wrote: Well, that's not really true, Bill. It works for you, but may or may not work for others. On some systems it may cause problems or strange behaviours. That's a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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:-) For the few, yes......but still a long way from "effectively resolved for all
practical purposes" s -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... For the few that have reported in here on this issue, it has seemed to work for them too. glee wrote: Well, that's not really true, Bill. It works for you, but may or may not work for others. On some systems it may cause problems or strange behaviours. That's a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?
:-) For the few, yes......but still a long way from "effectively resolved for all
practical purposes" s -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... For the few that have reported in here on this issue, it has seemed to work for them too. glee wrote: Well, that's not really true, Bill. It works for you, but may or may not work for others. On some systems it may cause problems or strange behaviours. That's a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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And there's *still* no knowing what got broken by employing this "fix".
-- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message ... :-) For the few, yes......but still a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" s -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... For the few that have reported in here on this issue, it has seemed to work for them too. glee wrote: Well, that's not really true, Bill. It works for you, but may or may not work for others. On some systems it may cause problems or strange behaviours. That's a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?
And there's *still* no knowing what got broken by employing this "fix".
-- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message ... :-) For the few, yes......but still a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" s -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... For the few that have reported in here on this issue, it has seemed to work for them too. glee wrote: Well, that's not really true, Bill. It works for you, but may or may not work for others. On some systems it may cause problems or strange behaviours. That's a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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Bill in Co. wrote:
But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Yes Bill we know full well your feelings about the issue, and others. ...been there done that... Hey that reminds me of George Bindar Dundat g ...which I hope he is doing well. Bill you are probably a really big guy that no one would want to mess with in a bar, and you have you own way and ideas about everything you do and you do everything your own way - no matter what anyone tells you on countless issues over the past years whether they are technically right or wrong. You remind me of a stubborn bull in a china closet ...and over the years you buck everything and everybody Technically speaking the dll swap is a backwards hack in so many obvious ways; however, I do totally understand and respect that you want to use it and hey afterall I used it for 6 months myself and through that time supported others in doing it just like you are. Yes I agree and it's true that the way IE6 is stock with this problem is unacceptable. I vote to get it fixed properly though so that those two dll's are inclusive of all Numerous Updates that are Missing if swapped, no to mention any code disconnects causing the other anomalies you will experience eventually. Yeah Yeah I know I know, you don't care about updates anymore... Well, I do If something is worth doing then it's worth doing right. peace, ...and my post is not a putdown at you - it's just 'call it like it is' bar talk over a few beers, and so take it in that context. Rick Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?
Bill in Co. wrote:
But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Yes Bill we know full well your feelings about the issue, and others. ...been there done that... Hey that reminds me of George Bindar Dundat g ...which I hope he is doing well. Bill you are probably a really big guy that no one would want to mess with in a bar, and you have you own way and ideas about everything you do and you do everything your own way - no matter what anyone tells you on countless issues over the past years whether they are technically right or wrong. You remind me of a stubborn bull in a china closet ...and over the years you buck everything and everybody Technically speaking the dll swap is a backwards hack in so many obvious ways; however, I do totally understand and respect that you want to use it and hey afterall I used it for 6 months myself and through that time supported others in doing it just like you are. Yes I agree and it's true that the way IE6 is stock with this problem is unacceptable. I vote to get it fixed properly though so that those two dll's are inclusive of all Numerous Updates that are Missing if swapped, no to mention any code disconnects causing the other anomalies you will experience eventually. Yeah Yeah I know I know, you don't care about updates anymore... Well, I do If something is worth doing then it's worth doing right. peace, ...and my post is not a putdown at you - it's just 'call it like it is' bar talk over a few beers, and so take it in that context. Rick Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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I'll let ya know when I encounter it! :-)
Speaking of "there's still no way of knowing"..., the same logic applies to taking in some of those updates! Gary S. Terhune wrote: And there's *still* no knowing what got broken by employing this "fix". -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message ... :-) For the few, yes......but still a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" s -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... For the few that have reported in here on this issue, it has seemed to work for them too. glee wrote: Well, that's not really true, Bill. It works for you, but may or may not work for others. On some systems it may cause problems or strange behaviours. That's a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?
I'll let ya know when I encounter it! :-)
Speaking of "there's still no way of knowing"..., the same logic applies to taking in some of those updates! Gary S. Terhune wrote: And there's *still* no knowing what got broken by employing this "fix". -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message ... :-) For the few, yes......but still a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" s -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... For the few that have reported in here on this issue, it has seemed to work for them too. glee wrote: Well, that's not really true, Bill. It works for you, but may or may not work for others. On some systems it may cause problems or strange behaviours. That's a long way from "effectively resolved for all practical purposes" -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?
Rick Chauvin wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote: But the issue has been effectively resolved, for all "practical purposes", by swapping those two DLL files (IMO). Works GREAT over here! Yes Bill we know full well your feelings about the issue, and others. ..been there done that... Not just my feeling - several others in here too. Hey that reminds me of George Bindar Dundat g ...which I hope he is doing well. Bill you are probably a really big guy that no one would want to mess with in a bar, and you have you own way and ideas about everything you do and you do everything your own way - no matter what anyone tells you on countless issues over the past years whether they are technically right or wrong. You remind me of a stubborn bull in a china closet ...and over the years you buck everything and everybody Not a big guy, but a stubborn ornery one, one not easily swayed by "the crowd". Remember Emerson? "whoso would be a man, must be a non-conformist", and that comes naturally for me. :-) Technically speaking the dll swap is a backwards hack in so many obvious ways; however, I do totally understand and respect that you want to use it and hey afterall I used it for 6 months myself and through that time supported others in doing it just like you are. Yes I agree and it's true that the way IE6 is stock with this problem is unacceptable. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!!. If I had to live with THAT, I'd almost consider switching back to IE 5.5 SP2, but I can't do that easily anyways, besides which, at least now I have a little more protection, without "relying" on those "sometimes problematic" "windows updates" I vote to get it fixed properly though so that those two dll's are inclusive of all Numerous Updates that are Missing if swapped, no to mention any code disconnects causing the other anomalies you will experience eventually. Yeah Yeah I know I know, you don't care about updates anymore... Well, I do If something is worth doing then it's worth doing right. Yeah, but do you really think it's gonna happen in our lifetime? Come on now, let's not be naive. (Of course I never thought I'd live to see the Berlin Wall come down either) peace, ..and my post is not a putdown at you - it's just 'call it like it is' bar talk over a few beers, and so take it in that context. Rick Good enough, Rick! :-) Rick Chauvin wrote: cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote: More on that, please? Which two .DLL files? cquirke, if you can find a way to solve this problem without having to swap to the old 5.5 dlls and what that means, you will be W9x's official grand hero! vbg The problem is real and is a royal p.i.t.a ..I get around it by holding the Shift key when I want to delete anything out of the ordinary - and that seems to keep me out of the problem, but I would really like to get this fixed correctly once and for all ! I've seen the work you did with the TS-BATS setup you made for parallel installs and what that represented in know-how for you to do that, and other things, and so I'm complementing you forward to see if you can resolves this issue for us too. Rick |
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