Minor announcement.... ;)

"Mike M" wrote in message
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I still think it's better than 'OK', don't you?

No.

I really would appreciate substantiating briefly but roundly.

--
Mike Maltby



webster72n wrote:

Mine was not to be an expert, but rather a user opinion, as you have
guessed, Mike.
Sorry to have created the wrong impression.
I still think it's better than 'OK', don't you? H.

Jack how wonderful to hear you again, we've missed you as well and the
oldies around here have wondered how you were and as you can see this group
is still the meeting place for us all. g
If possible don't be such a stranger we may not fix many WinME machines
these days but we like having a get together with old friends g
Joan

--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
http://lachsoft.com/photogallery

"Jack Martinelli" jemartin_no wrote in message
...
OMG, I feel like I'm back at my fortieth high school reunion! All because
I was browsing the DTS groups this AM, which I now do perhaps twice a
month, when I'm good, and found a recent question Noel Paton, which
Mike Maltby answered. In response, I'm led to the Google News accounts
(for my first adventure there), where Google lets me subscribe, but not
post, at least not today. Since my ancient WinME machine is retired now
and not internet-capable (yet), here I am under XP SP3, where I see most,
if not all, of the famous old MS WinME names, with whom I used to spend
2-12 hours a day, seven days a week, during 2000-2006. Be still my
beating heart! Those times, when we all killed dragons daily, with our
right hands, while strangling trolls with any hands left over, were some
of my most interesting and enjoyable times. You were just great to me,
and I miss you dearly. People I meet today are simply astonished that I
was a part of such comradery, including a colleague in Tasmania, on the
opposite side of our planet. So I wish all of you an excellent new year,
esp. Messrs. Noel Paton and Mike Maltby, who were perhaps our best WinME
commenters, among the dozen or so regular significant contributors. I
think of Alex Nichol almost every month.

Best to everyone,
Jack E. Martinelli
---

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
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8 months life for an early Beta? - that's longer than usual, IIRC....
maybe they want to get it right this time?
[SNIP]
--
Noel Paton (MVP 2002-2006)
(CrashFixPC)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
[SNIP]

webster72n wrote:

I really would appreciate substantiating briefly but roundly.

Why? "No" sums up my response perfectly.

As I said, for those who use their computer for simple routine tasks and
don't network or do anything much else then Vista is perfect but so was
XP. If you did anything more with your PC you would already know the
problems that can be experienced when running Vista.

This is why I can't be bothered with the Vista NGs.

Windows 7 looks as if it might be better but yet again Microsoft have
chosen not to listen to their users meaning that W7 could easily turn out
to be yet another lemon. No classic mode, no mail app (good for third
parties) or moviemaker (no loss there though) and much else dumbed down.
Perfect for newbies and those that believe in the cloud but potentially
useless for those that use their PCs for real processing. Hopefully I'm
wrong and W7 will turn out something like the system Microsoft promised us
in 2003 when the Longhorn beta was launched.
--
Mike Maltby

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:

I really would appreciate substantiating briefly but roundly.

Why? "No" sums up my response perfectly.

As I said, for those who use their computer for simple routine tasks and
don't network or do anything much else then Vista is perfect but so was
XP. If you did anything more with your PC you would already know the
problems that can be experienced when running Vista.

This is why I can't be bothered with the Vista NGs.

Windows 7 looks as if it might be better but yet again Microsoft have
chosen not to listen to their users meaning that W7 could easily turn out
to be yet another lemon. No classic mode, no mail app (good for third
parties) or moviemaker (no loss there though) and much else dumbed down.
Perfect for newbies and those that believe in the cloud but potentially
useless for those that use their PCs for real processing. Hopefully I'm
wrong and W7 will turn out something like the system Microsoft promised us
in 2003 when the Longhorn beta was launched.
--
Mike Maltby


Thank you for expanding and thus clarifying the situation for me, Mike.
Please allow me one more question:
Did your attitude towards Microsoft undergo a shifting process at some point
in time?

Hi Jack! ... or maybe these days I should say 'Hello, Jack'?

Good to see you around - it really IS like old home week here ATM!

Your Christmas card (and attachments) was much apprciated over here -
arriving safe and sound.

Don't be a stranger... even I've been asked occasionally where you've got
to!!

Noel

"Jack Martinelli" jemartin_no wrote in message
...
OMG, I feel like I'm back at my fortieth high school reunion! All because
I was browsing the DTS groups this AM, which I now do perhaps twice a
month, when I'm good, and found a recent question Noel Paton, which
Mike Maltby answered. In response, I'm led to the Google News accounts
(for my first adventure there), where Google lets me subscribe, but not
post, at least not today. Since my ancient WinME machine is retired now
and not internet-capable (yet), here I am under XP SP3, where I see most,
if not all, of the famous old MS WinME names, with whom I used to spend
2-12 hours a day, seven days a week, during 2000-2006. Be still my
beating heart! Those times, when we all killed dragons daily, with our
right hands, while strangling trolls with any hands left over, were some
of my most interesting and enjoyable times. You were just great to me,
and I miss you dearly. People I meet today are simply astonished that I
was a part of such comradery, including a colleague in Tasmania, on the
opposite side of our planet. So I wish all of you an excellent new year,
esp. Messrs. Noel Paton and Mike Maltby, who were perhaps our best WinME
commenters, among the dozen or so regular significant contributors. I
think of Alex Nichol almost every month.

Best to everyone,
Jack E. Martinelli
---

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
8 months life for an early Beta? - that's longer than usual, IIRC....
maybe they want to get it right this time?
[SNIP]
--
Noel Paton (MVP 2002-2006)
(CrashFixPC)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
[SNIP]

My ME HD is still up and running over 8 years later.
In fact, I'd stored some drivers for a video card for XP on it and upon
rediscovering the hiding place [CRS strikes again], installed the
drivers for a temporary respite until the card went and croaked.
ME was better for me than Vista was. The only Vista edition installed is
on a .vhd in Win7 just so I know what I'm not talking about. w
Or, vice versa, whichever comes last.

MowG.


Joan Archer wrote:

Hehe don't forget I'm still running one here alongside XP and Vista with
a short trial of Windows 7 g
Joan

Good to see you back, Jack. Yours and Noels re-appearance have certainly
re-invigorated the Group.

Mart


"Jack Martinelli" jemartin_no wrote in message
...
OMG, I feel like I'm back at my fortieth high school reunion! All because
I was browsing the DTS groups this AM, which I now do perhaps twice a
month, when I'm good, and found a recent question Noel Paton, which
Mike Maltby answered. In response, I'm led to the Google News accounts
(for my first adventure there), where Google lets me subscribe, but not
post, at least not today. Since my ancient WinME machine is retired now
and not internet-capable (yet), here I am under XP SP3, where I see most,
if not all, of the famous old MS WinME names, with whom I used to spend
2-12 hours a day, seven days a week, during 2000-2006. Be still my
beating heart! Those times, when we all killed dragons daily, with our
right hands, while strangling trolls with any hands left over, were some
of my most interesting and enjoyable times. You were just great to me,
and I miss you dearly. People I meet today are simply astonished that I
was a part of such comradery, including a colleague in Tasmania, on the
opposite side of our planet. So I wish all of you an excellent new year,
esp. Messrs. Noel Paton and Mike Maltby, who were perhaps our best WinME
commenters, among the dozen or so regular significant contributors. I
think of Alex Nichol almost every month.

Best to everyone,
Jack E. Martinelli
---

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
8 months life for an early Beta? - that's longer than usual, IIRC....
maybe they want to get it right this time?
[SNIP]
--
Noel Paton (MVP 2002-2006)
(CrashFixPC)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
[SNIP]

I have a mate who downloads a fair amount... I'll have to access his
machines for the Windows 7 Beta downloads via FTM (have you played
with it yet?), I'm registered, but haven't downloaded anyuthing yet
apart from one of the 'client' builds, which I haven't installed
anywhere.

I'll mail you an x64 dvd if you want, Noel.

P.

Hi Shane! (I ASSume that's you behind the mask?)

I'll probably run around to Mike's in a week or so and pick one up while I'm
there - but thanks for the offer

--
Noel Paton (MVP 2002-2006)
(CrashFixPC)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Pogle S. Wood" wrote in message
...
I have a mate who downloads a fair amount... I'll have to access his
machines for the Windows 7 Beta downloads via FTM (have you played
with it yet?), I'm registered, but haven't downloaded anyuthing yet
apart from one of the 'client' builds, which I haven't installed
anywhere.

I'll mail you an x64 dvd if you want, Noel.

P.

I'm sorry. You're talking to me?

When anyone with a funny name and the same source as me comes to this group,
people figure it must be me!

Anyway, catch you later. I just have to reinstall 2K8 to get the Windows
Mail components to copy over the W7 ones to get Windows Mail back! I really
should have backed them up! That's messing about with RAID for you!

!

I wonder if the fact you can get Windows Mail working in W7 (the files are
there, they just don't do any more than import OE settings) this way implies
that it'll be an optional download - say, a *feature* - in the RTM. Only,
seeing as how MS removed Windows Sidebar from 2K8 - though you can get it
back easily enough by copying the files across etc (I use the ones from 2K8
b3) - maybe they *are* trying to kill Windows Mail. Me, I despise Windows
Live Mail! I think I prefer Thunderbird (which I have always considered
inferior to OE/Winmail).

Also, one wonders whether the failure of Gadgets to run with UAC turned off
is a stick to get donkeys to turn it back on. But, it is a beta, even if it
is unusually usable! As the bowing to common sense on the UAC issue has just
demonstrated.

You been somewhere then, Noel?

Shane



Noel Paton wrote:
Hi Shane! (I ASSume that's you behind the mask?)

I'll probably run around to Mike's in a week or so and pick one up
while I'm there - but thanks for the offer


Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Pogle S. Wood" wrote in message
...
I have a mate who downloads a fair amount... I'll have to access
his machines for the Windows 7 Beta downloads via FTM (have you
played with it yet?), I'm registered, but haven't downloaded
anyuthing yet apart from one of the 'client' builds, which I
haven't installed anywhere.

I'll mail you an x64 dvd if you want, Noel.

P.