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  #51  
Old December 31st 09, 05:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill in Co.
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Default Won't load OS

For Buffalo..
The "We" is indicated below with some asterisks.

Bill in Co. wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
ms wrote:
"Buffalo" wrote in
:

ms wrote:
"Buffalo" wrote in
:

dadiOH wrote:

"Buffalo" wrote in news:hheen5$ci5$1

file is missing or corrupted; c:\windows\himem.sys
there is an error in line 1 of config.sys
[snip]
Restoring a registry does nothing for missing/bad files. System
file checker may if you have a Win98 install disk to get new/good
files.

I understand that, but I believe that I once had the message that
the himem.sys was missing and it actually wasn't and I believe that
a Registry restore solved my problem, of course that was a long
time ago and I may be mistaken.

To me a Registry restore is quick and easy and it is also easy to
restore back.
I use a program (Regback) (a simple batch file) that lets me keep
up to 15 registries (plus some other system files), and believe it
or not, when I was always tweaking (experimenting on) my Win98SE,
that came in handy.

Buffalo


Thanks for noting Regback, I just downloaded it (rev, 2- 5 kb) and
will start using it, the W98 default only saves IIRC 3 backups.

ms

I still use the old version which requires me to type cabrest at
the DOS Command Prompt.
I always got mixed up with regback and cabrest, so it's nice to know
that with the new batch file, you just type fixit .
Enjoy and have a Great New Year.
Buffalo


Thanks for the help.

A question in Regback- where do you set it for 15 backups? I didn't
run it yet, but the text file does not discuss it.

ms

I believe if you unzip your Regback file it will tell you.
This is what it said in my old Regback:

"The mechanism that Windows uses to control Scanreg is amazingly simple.
It's just a plain text file called SCANREG.INI which you can easily edit
with Notepad. When you run Scanreg, it first checks in this file to see
if
you've customized any of the available parameters such as the maximum
number of backup copies, or where the copies are stored. To view and edit
SCANREG.INI, simply click once on a blank spot on the Desktop Taskbar and
press F3. Type SCANREG.INI in the Named: box, and type C:\WINDOWS in the
Look in: box. Click Find Now and in a moment, when you see the file in
the
window simply double click it to launch it in Notepad. The standard
version
of SCANREG.INI should read something like this:

;
; Scanreg.ini for making system backups.
;

;Registry backup is skipped altogether if this is set to 0
Backup=1

;Registry automatic optimization is skipped if this is set to 0
Optimize=1

ScanregVersion=0.0001
MaxBackupCopies=5 [We recommend changing this number to 14]


****** see the We above ****** (I don't know who "we" is here. :-)

We??? Who is this "We"? :-)
But as I said, if you change it from its default value of 5, you don't get
to see them all, so it's a bit of a nuisance to use in practice.
However,
if you *need* two weeks of backups, it's one way to go.



  #52  
Old December 31st 09, 05:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill in Co.
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Default Won't load OS

For Buffalo..
The "We" is indicated below with some asterisks.

Bill in Co. wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
ms wrote:
"Buffalo" wrote in
:

ms wrote:
"Buffalo" wrote in
:

dadiOH wrote:

"Buffalo" wrote in news:hheen5$ci5$1

file is missing or corrupted; c:\windows\himem.sys
there is an error in line 1 of config.sys
[snip]
Restoring a registry does nothing for missing/bad files. System
file checker may if you have a Win98 install disk to get new/good
files.

I understand that, but I believe that I once had the message that
the himem.sys was missing and it actually wasn't and I believe that
a Registry restore solved my problem, of course that was a long
time ago and I may be mistaken.

To me a Registry restore is quick and easy and it is also easy to
restore back.
I use a program (Regback) (a simple batch file) that lets me keep
up to 15 registries (plus some other system files), and believe it
or not, when I was always tweaking (experimenting on) my Win98SE,
that came in handy.

Buffalo


Thanks for noting Regback, I just downloaded it (rev, 2- 5 kb) and
will start using it, the W98 default only saves IIRC 3 backups.

ms

I still use the old version which requires me to type cabrest at
the DOS Command Prompt.
I always got mixed up with regback and cabrest, so it's nice to know
that with the new batch file, you just type fixit .
Enjoy and have a Great New Year.
Buffalo


Thanks for the help.

A question in Regback- where do you set it for 15 backups? I didn't
run it yet, but the text file does not discuss it.

ms

I believe if you unzip your Regback file it will tell you.
This is what it said in my old Regback:

"The mechanism that Windows uses to control Scanreg is amazingly simple.
It's just a plain text file called SCANREG.INI which you can easily edit
with Notepad. When you run Scanreg, it first checks in this file to see
if
you've customized any of the available parameters such as the maximum
number of backup copies, or where the copies are stored. To view and edit
SCANREG.INI, simply click once on a blank spot on the Desktop Taskbar and
press F3. Type SCANREG.INI in the Named: box, and type C:\WINDOWS in the
Look in: box. Click Find Now and in a moment, when you see the file in
the
window simply double click it to launch it in Notepad. The standard
version
of SCANREG.INI should read something like this:

;
; Scanreg.ini for making system backups.
;

;Registry backup is skipped altogether if this is set to 0
Backup=1

;Registry automatic optimization is skipped if this is set to 0
Optimize=1

ScanregVersion=0.0001
MaxBackupCopies=5 [We recommend changing this number to 14]


****** see the We above ****** (I don't know who "we" is here. :-)

We??? Who is this "We"? :-)
But as I said, if you change it from its default value of 5, you don't get
to see them all, so it's a bit of a nuisance to use in practice.
However,
if you *need* two weeks of backups, it's one way to go.



  #53  
Old December 31st 09, 06:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ben Myers[_5_]
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Posts: 36
Default Won't load OS

"ms" wrote in message ...
Got into trouble in trying some W98 utilities. Apparently one of them
was a NT type app. In a very reliable W98SE computer, I ran an
executable, the machine then rebooted and now gives a DOS screen:
========
file is missing or corrupted; c:\windows\himem.sys
there is an error in line 1 of config.sys
file is missing or corrupted; emm386.exe
there is an error in line 2 of config.sys


Start the computer with a Windows 98 boot floppy, type
the following two lines and press "Enter".

rename c:\config.sys config.bak
rename c:\autoexec.bat autoexec.bak

file is missing or corrupted; himem.sys
file is missing or corrupted; dblbuff.sys
file is missing or corrupted; ifshlp.sys
can't find win.com, can't continue loading windows

snip

Start the computer with a Windows 98 boot floppy, type
"dir /a c:\winboot.ini" and press "Enter". If the winboot.ini
file is present, carefully type the following two lines, press
"Enter", then remove the boot floppy and restart.

c:\windows\command\attrib -h -r -s c:\winboot.ini
rename c:\winboot.ini winboot.bad

Ben
  #54  
Old December 31st 09, 06:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ben Myers[_5_]
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Posts: 36
Default Won't load OS

"ms" wrote in message ...
Got into trouble in trying some W98 utilities. Apparently one of them
was a NT type app. In a very reliable W98SE computer, I ran an
executable, the machine then rebooted and now gives a DOS screen:
========
file is missing or corrupted; c:\windows\himem.sys
there is an error in line 1 of config.sys
file is missing or corrupted; emm386.exe
there is an error in line 2 of config.sys


Start the computer with a Windows 98 boot floppy, type
the following two lines and press "Enter".

rename c:\config.sys config.bak
rename c:\autoexec.bat autoexec.bak

file is missing or corrupted; himem.sys
file is missing or corrupted; dblbuff.sys
file is missing or corrupted; ifshlp.sys
can't find win.com, can't continue loading windows

snip

Start the computer with a Windows 98 boot floppy, type
"dir /a c:\winboot.ini" and press "Enter". If the winboot.ini
file is present, carefully type the following two lines, press
"Enter", then remove the boot floppy and restart.

c:\windows\command\attrib -h -r -s c:\winboot.ini
rename c:\winboot.ini winboot.bad

Ben
  #55  
Old December 31st 09, 01:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
dadiOH[_3_]
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Default Won't load OS

ms wrote:

Thanks for noting Regback, I just downloaded it (rev, 2- 5 kb) and
will start using it, the W98 default only saves IIRC 3 backups.


However, , the number to save can be changed...

Edit the Scanreg.ini file in the Windows folder.
Backup=1

If set to 0 (zero), no backups. Set it to 1.

You can also increase the number of backups retained...

MaxBackupCopies=5 ( I set mine for 10 )

but only 5 show up in Scanreg /restore; however you can open the rbXXX.cab
files and extract the contents. One can also go to the WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP
directory where the backups are stored and temporarily remove all except the
one you intend to restore via scanreg /restore. If you want to keep a
particular cab file - i.e. not have it automatically overwritten by newer
daily ones - just change the name or move it elsewhere.

The default directory can also be set in scanreg.ini as well as the option
to save certain other files/directories. The methodology for those - and
all changes - is explained in scanreg.ini.



--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico



  #56  
Old December 31st 09, 01:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
dadiOH[_3_]
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Posts: 263
Default Won't load OS

ms wrote:

Thanks for noting Regback, I just downloaded it (rev, 2- 5 kb) and
will start using it, the W98 default only saves IIRC 3 backups.


However, , the number to save can be changed...

Edit the Scanreg.ini file in the Windows folder.
Backup=1

If set to 0 (zero), no backups. Set it to 1.

You can also increase the number of backups retained...

MaxBackupCopies=5 ( I set mine for 10 )

but only 5 show up in Scanreg /restore; however you can open the rbXXX.cab
files and extract the contents. One can also go to the WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP
directory where the backups are stored and temporarily remove all except the
one you intend to restore via scanreg /restore. If you want to keep a
particular cab file - i.e. not have it automatically overwritten by newer
daily ones - just change the name or move it elsewhere.

The default directory can also be set in scanreg.ini as well as the option
to save certain other files/directories. The methodology for those - and
all changes - is explained in scanreg.ini.



--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico



  #57  
Old December 31st 09, 02:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
dadiOH[_3_]
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Default Won't load OS

Jeff Richards wrote:
W98 can boot quite OK without those files.

If those files don't need to be there, but it is an incorrect startup
file that is trying to load them, then a registry restore would
replace the incorrect startup with the correct one, it wouldn't go
looking look for those files, and the system would boot.

So while a registry restore will not replace non-registry files that
have been deleted, it may well solve the problem nonetheless.


Good point, thanks.

dadiOH
___________


"Buffalo" wrote in message
...
snip
Restoring a registry does nothing for missing/bad files. System
file checker may if you have a Win98 install disk to get new/good
files.


I understand that, but I believe that I once had the message that the
himem.sys was missing and it actually wasn't and I believe that a
Registry restore solved my problem, of course that was a long time
ago and I may be mistaken.





  #58  
Old December 31st 09, 02:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
dadiOH[_3_]
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Posts: 263
Default Won't load OS

Jeff Richards wrote:
W98 can boot quite OK without those files.

If those files don't need to be there, but it is an incorrect startup
file that is trying to load them, then a registry restore would
replace the incorrect startup with the correct one, it wouldn't go
looking look for those files, and the system would boot.

So while a registry restore will not replace non-registry files that
have been deleted, it may well solve the problem nonetheless.


Good point, thanks.

dadiOH
___________


"Buffalo" wrote in message
...
snip
Restoring a registry does nothing for missing/bad files. System
file checker may if you have a Win98 install disk to get new/good
files.


I understand that, but I believe that I once had the message that the
himem.sys was missing and it actually wasn't and I believe that a
Registry restore solved my problem, of course that was a long time
ago and I may be mistaken.





  #59  
Old December 31st 09, 08:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
glee
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Posts: 2,458
Default Won't load OS

"Ben Myers" wrote in message
...
"ms" wrote in message
...
Got into trouble in trying some W98 utilities. Apparently one of them
was a NT type app. In a very reliable W98SE computer, I ran an
executable, the machine then rebooted and now gives a DOS screen:
========
file is missing or corrupted; c:\windows\himem.sys
there is an error in line 1 of config.sys
file is missing or corrupted; emm386.exe
there is an error in line 2 of config.sys


Start the computer with a Windows 98 boot floppy, type
the following two lines and press "Enter".

rename c:\config.sys config.bak
rename c:\autoexec.bat autoexec.bak

file is missing or corrupted; himem.sys
file is missing or corrupted; dblbuff.sys
file is missing or corrupted; ifshlp.sys
can't find win.com, can't continue loading windows

snip

Start the computer with a Windows 98 boot floppy, type
"dir /a c:\winboot.ini" and press "Enter". If the winboot.ini
file is present, carefully type the following two lines, press
"Enter", then remove the boot floppy and restart.

c:\windows\command\attrib -h -r -s c:\winboot.ini
rename c:\winboot.ini winboot.bad

Ben
___________________________________________

Thanks Ben, you saved me the trouble of posting that!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

  #60  
Old December 31st 09, 08:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
glee
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,458
Default Won't load OS


"Ben Myers" wrote in message
...
"ms" wrote in message
...
Got into trouble in trying some W98 utilities. Apparently one of them
was a NT type app. In a very reliable W98SE computer, I ran an
executable, the machine then rebooted and now gives a DOS screen:
========
file is missing or corrupted; c:\windows\himem.sys
there is an error in line 1 of config.sys
file is missing or corrupted; emm386.exe
there is an error in line 2 of config.sys


Start the computer with a Windows 98 boot floppy, type
the following two lines and press "Enter".

rename c:\config.sys config.bak
rename c:\autoexec.bat autoexec.bak

file is missing or corrupted; himem.sys
file is missing or corrupted; dblbuff.sys
file is missing or corrupted; ifshlp.sys
can't find win.com, can't continue loading windows

snip

Start the computer with a Windows 98 boot floppy, type
"dir /a c:\winboot.ini" and press "Enter". If the winboot.ini
file is present, carefully type the following two lines, press
"Enter", then remove the boot floppy and restart.

c:\windows\command\attrib -h -r -s c:\winboot.ini
rename c:\winboot.ini winboot.bad

Ben
___________________________________________

Thanks Ben, you saved me the trouble of posting that!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

 




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