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  #1  
Old June 2nd 06, 04:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.apps
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Default MS Backup

The errors that I keep having with this app. are from [index.dat]
and [schedlog.txt] running in the background while the back up is running. I
have closed all running app. on system except explorer.
I know what [schedlog.txt] is for Task Scheduler.
I do not know what [index.dat] is. It resides in temporary files, history,
cookies.
Also, MyBackup.qic is also busy.
All state that they cannot be compared or restored!??? [in report]
Thank-you.


  #2  
Old June 2nd 06, 09:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.apps
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Those are all "normal" errors, index.dat is used by Internet Explorer and
the cookie cache to keep track of entries and will always be in use. Having
MyBackup.qic showing as busy indicates that you are storing your backup on
the same drive you're trying to back up and this is a bad, BAD idea. Always
back up to a different drive than the one in use.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim" wrote in message
...
The errors that I keep having with this app. are from [index.dat]
and [schedlog.txt] running in the background while the back up is running.
I
have closed all running app. on system except explorer.
I know what [schedlog.txt] is for Task Scheduler.
I do not know what [index.dat] is. It resides in temporary files, history,
cookies.
Also, MyBackup.qic is also busy.
All state that they cannot be compared or restored!??? [in report]
Thank-you.




  #3  
Old June 3rd 06, 04:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.apps
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Default MS Backup

Thank-you!
I will use a cd. This [overwrite] option was the course that I took when
using the backup app. If this was bad choice, why is it in the options, and
worse yet, I wonder how many people out there are not backing up correctly?
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
Those are all "normal" errors, index.dat is used by Internet Explorer and
the cookie cache to keep track of entries and will always be in use.

Having
MyBackup.qic showing as busy indicates that you are storing your backup on
the same drive you're trying to back up and this is a bad, BAD idea.

Always
back up to a different drive than the one in use.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim" wrote in message
...
The errors that I keep having with this app. are from [index.dat]
and [schedlog.txt] running in the background while the back up is

running.
I
have closed all running app. on system except explorer.
I know what [schedlog.txt] is for Task Scheduler.
I do not know what [index.dat] is. It resides in temporary files,

history,
cookies.
Also, MyBackup.qic is also busy.
All state that they cannot be compared or restored!??? [in report]
Thank-you.






  #4  
Old June 3rd 06, 10:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.apps
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Default MS Backup

These days most folks don't use backup, they use a disk imaging program to
create a clone of the entire hard drive at once. Much faster and much
easier than MSBACKUP. Remember it was written in the days when folks used
either floppy diskettes or tape drives for backup.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Thank-you!
I will use a cd. This [overwrite] option was the course that I took when
using the backup app. If this was bad choice, why is it in the options,
and
worse yet, I wonder how many people out there are not backing up
correctly?



  #5  
Old June 4th 06, 03:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.apps
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Default MS Backup

Would not a floppy be to small? I have 1.44 MB, that would be too small,
True? This is a total system backup not a money file or just doc files. I
think you mean [burn a cd] image of this.
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
These days most folks don't use backup, they use a disk imaging program to
create a clone of the entire hard drive at once. Much faster and much
easier than MSBACKUP. Remember it was written in the days when folks used
either floppy diskettes or tape drives for backup.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Thank-you!
I will use a cd. This [overwrite] option was the course that I took when
using the backup app. If this was bad choice, why is it in the options,
and
worse yet, I wonder how many people out there are not backing up
correctly?





  #6  
Old June 4th 06, 06:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.apps
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Default MS Backup

Personal CD burners did not exist when MS Backup was written. People did
use a series of floppies if they did not have a tape unit.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Jim" wrote in message
...
Would not a floppy be to small? I have 1.44 MB, that would be too small,
True? This is a total system backup not a money file or just doc files. I
think you mean [burn a cd] image of this.
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
These days most folks don't use backup, they use a disk imaging program
to
create a clone of the entire hard drive at once. Much faster and much
easier than MSBACKUP. Remember it was written in the days when folks
used
either floppy diskettes or tape drives for backup.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Thank-you!
I will use a cd. This [overwrite] option was the course that I took
when
using the backup app. If this was bad choice, why is it in the options,
and
worse yet, I wonder how many people out there are not backing up
correctly?







  #7  
Old June 4th 06, 09:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.apps
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Default MS Backup

Thank-you Ron,
I was around in the oldie goldie IBM 360/370 days, and with pdp11
workstations in the lab. I never had to worry about this stuff much.
Professional staff at university did all this for us. I will make a mirror
of it on a cd. The question I have is what is it doing when it backs up to
Mybackup.qic. Is this not a compressed version of what is sent to Seagate or
other online libraries at a fee?
"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Personal CD burners did not exist when MS Backup was written. People did
use a series of floppies if they did not have a tape unit.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Jim" wrote in message
...
Would not a floppy be to small? I have 1.44 MB, that would be too small,
True? This is a total system backup not a money file or just doc files.

I
think you mean [burn a cd] image of this.
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
These days most folks don't use backup, they use a disk imaging program
to
create a clone of the entire hard drive at once. Much faster and much
easier than MSBACKUP. Remember it was written in the days when folks
used
either floppy diskettes or tape drives for backup.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Thank-you!
I will use a cd. This [overwrite] option was the course that I took
when
using the backup app. If this was bad choice, why is it in the

options,
and
worse yet, I wonder how many people out there are not backing up
correctly?








  #8  
Old June 5th 06, 01:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.apps
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Default MS Backup

Jim,

I only used MS Backup up until the first time I needed it and it failed me.
That is when I bought my first "speedy" 2X CD burner and put a second drive
in my PCs. In my view, a backup program must work 100% of the time and over
the years in these newsgroups, I have found this is not the case for MS
Backup. When I want to back something up, I either make an image on a
second hard drive or, depending on the size, use a CD.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Jim" wrote in message
...
Thank-you Ron,
I was around in the oldie goldie IBM 360/370 days, and with pdp11
workstations in the lab. I never had to worry about this stuff much.
Professional staff at university did all this for us. I will make a mirror
of it on a cd. The question I have is what is it doing when it backs up to
Mybackup.qic. Is this not a compressed version of what is sent to Seagate
or
other online libraries at a fee?
"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Personal CD burners did not exist when MS Backup was written. People did
use a series of floppies if they did not have a tape unit.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Jim" wrote in message
...
Would not a floppy be to small? I have 1.44 MB, that would be too
small,
True? This is a total system backup not a money file or just doc files.

I
think you mean [burn a cd] image of this.
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
These days most folks don't use backup, they use a disk imaging
program
to
create a clone of the entire hard drive at once. Much faster and much
easier than MSBACKUP. Remember it was written in the days when folks
used
either floppy diskettes or tape drives for backup.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Thank-you!
I will use a cd. This [overwrite] option was the course that I took
when
using the backup app. If this was bad choice, why is it in the

options,
and
worse yet, I wonder how many people out there are not backing up
correctly?










  #9  
Old June 5th 06, 04:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.apps
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Default MS Backup

Thank-you! Take care.
"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Jim,

I only used MS Backup up until the first time I needed it and it failed

me.
That is when I bought my first "speedy" 2X CD burner and put a second

drive
in my PCs. In my view, a backup program must work 100% of the time and

over
the years in these newsgroups, I have found this is not the case for MS
Backup. When I want to back something up, I either make an image on a
second hard drive or, depending on the size, use a CD.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Jim" wrote in message
...
Thank-you Ron,
I was around in the oldie goldie IBM 360/370 days, and with pdp11
workstations in the lab. I never had to worry about this stuff much.
Professional staff at university did all this for us. I will make a

mirror
of it on a cd. The question I have is what is it doing when it backs up

to
Mybackup.qic. Is this not a compressed version of what is sent to

Seagate
or
other online libraries at a fee?
"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Personal CD burners did not exist when MS Backup was written. People

did
use a series of floppies if they did not have a tape unit.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Jim" wrote in message
...
Would not a floppy be to small? I have 1.44 MB, that would be too
small,
True? This is a total system backup not a money file or just doc

files.
I
think you mean [burn a cd] image of this.
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
These days most folks don't use backup, they use a disk imaging
program
to
create a clone of the entire hard drive at once. Much faster and

much
easier than MSBACKUP. Remember it was written in the days when

folks
used
either floppy diskettes or tape drives for backup.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Thank-you!
I will use a cd. This [overwrite] option was the course that I

took
when
using the backup app. If this was bad choice, why is it in the

options,
and
worse yet, I wonder how many people out there are not backing up
correctly?












 




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