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Old September 2nd 05, 05:45 AM
B&W801
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how to increase local disk capacity from C: to D:? thanks


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Old September 2nd 05, 06:40 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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I don't understand your question. Please try to explain in more detail what
you want to do. Please tell us about your hard drive(s). How many, and how
are they partitioned?

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"B&W801" wrote in message
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how to increase local disk capacity from C: to D:? thanks




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Old September 2nd 05, 07:45 AM
B&W801
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thanks Gary, actually i would like to relocate some capacity from disk C:
said about 10 GB to add to disk D: which existing have 7.95GB so that disk
D: will have total 17.95GB. my question is can i do that?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't understand your question. Please try to explain in more detail

what
you want to do. Please tell us about your hard drive(s). How many, and how
are they partitioned?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"B&W801" wrote in message
...
how to increase local disk capacity from C: to D:? thanks






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Old September 2nd 05, 08:33 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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First, let's get our terminology straight. Microsoft and others, over the
years, have thoroughly messed up technical definitions in this area. For the
purposes of this discussion, a disk is a hard drive, and C:, D:, etc. are
"partitions". I'm assuming these are two partitions on one drive. If that's
not the case, post back before continuing.

The only way to do what you want to do is to use a 3rd-party partitioning
tool like Partition Magic or BootIt NG. I prefer BootIt NG, and for your
purposes there's no need to purchase the product. Get BootIt NG at
http://bootitng.com/bootitng.html Download button is at bottom. After
downloading, extract the contents to a new folder, then run bootitng.exe.
This will create a bootable installation floppy disk (you'll need a good
floppy disk for this, of course.) Then leave the floppy in and hen restart.
When the installer finishes loading, you'll be prompted to install. DO NOT
do so. Instead, Cancel the installation. This will drop you into Maintenance
Mode. From there, choose Partition Work.

In partition Work, click on the C:\ partition. It won't be named C:\, but
you should have no trouble figuring out which it is, probably the top one,
but your machine's manufacturer may have placed hidden partitions on your
drive, so pay close attention, and if in doubt, figure it out *first*.

Once you've selected your C:\ partition, click on "Resize". Put in the new
size in MegaBytes. You don't say what size the current C:\, but to calculate
the number of MB, multiply the number of GB you desire times 1024. (See
below for further discussion of partition sizes.) Then proceed.

Once the C:\ partition has been shrunk, select the D:\ partition and then
choose "Slide." Simply enter 0 for the value "Free space before..." (I
forget the exact language, but it's obvious.) Once the Slide is finished,
then Resize the same partition to fill the remaining space.

Now, a word about Partition Size. The ideal maximum size for the OS
partition in Windows 98, 98SE and ME (which is always C:\), is 8192 MB, or 8
GB. The reason is that once you go over 8 GB, the FAT32 file system wants to
enlarge the cluster size from 4 KB to 8, 16 or 32 KB. However, WIn98, 98SE
and ME are built to make particularly efficient use of 4KB clusters. Memory
is organized into 4KB "pages"--perhaps you can intuit why 4KB clusters are
ideal in this case. If you want a more detailed lesson in clusters, pages,
etc. see www.pcguide.com.

You don't say how large your current C:\ partition is, but if the deduction
of 10GB still leaves a partition larger than 8GB, consider either adding the
excess (above 8GB) to D:\, or create a new partition to take care of it. I
like having a partition that's dedicated to TEMP and Temporary Internet
Files. Gets those volatile files (volatile in the sense that lots of files
are getting written, deleted, rewritten, etc.) out of the OS partition where
they have a tendency to cause problems. The size for such a partition should
be at least 2GB, but I find 4GB to be even more efficient, since apps like
WinZip can demand a lot of temporary disk space. (There are other good uses
for this TEMP partition, but we'll leave that alone for now. I like to put
this TEMP partition right after the C:\ partition, but if you have any
Registry or other configuration files that reference D:\, you will encounter
errors if you change its letter to E:\. It won't be as efficient in
performance, but one solution is to put the TEMP partition at the end of the
disk.

If you want to delve into this additional partition idea, feel free to ask.
Only bit of info that is currently missing is how large the hard drive is in
total. I suggest that before you post back, go get BING (BootIt NG), create
the floppy and reboot to it, and check to see if there are any hidden
partitions. Won't probably be labeled "Hidden", but it will be obvious.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"B&W801" wrote in message
...
thanks Gary, actually i would like to relocate some capacity from disk C:
said about 10 GB to add to disk D: which existing have 7.95GB so that disk
D: will have total 17.95GB. my question is can i do that?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't understand your question. Please try to explain in more detail

what
you want to do. Please tell us about your hard drive(s). How many, and
how
are they partitioned?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"B&W801" wrote in message
...
how to increase local disk capacity from C: to D:? thanks








  #5  
Old September 2nd 05, 09:54 AM
B&W801
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thank you for your informative guides in solving my problem.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
First, let's get our terminology straight. Microsoft and others, over the
years, have thoroughly messed up technical definitions in this area. For

the
purposes of this discussion, a disk is a hard drive, and C:, D:, etc. are
"partitions". I'm assuming these are two partitions on one drive. If

that's
not the case, post back before continuing.

The only way to do what you want to do is to use a 3rd-party partitioning
tool like Partition Magic or BootIt NG. I prefer BootIt NG, and for your
purposes there's no need to purchase the product. Get BootIt NG at
http://bootitng.com/bootitng.html Download button is at bottom. After
downloading, extract the contents to a new folder, then run bootitng.exe.
This will create a bootable installation floppy disk (you'll need a good
floppy disk for this, of course.) Then leave the floppy in and hen

restart.
When the installer finishes loading, you'll be prompted to install. DO NOT
do so. Instead, Cancel the installation. This will drop you into

Maintenance
Mode. From there, choose Partition Work.

In partition Work, click on the C:\ partition. It won't be named C:\, but
you should have no trouble figuring out which it is, probably the top one,
but your machine's manufacturer may have placed hidden partitions on your
drive, so pay close attention, and if in doubt, figure it out *first*.

Once you've selected your C:\ partition, click on "Resize". Put in the new
size in MegaBytes. You don't say what size the current C:\, but to

calculate
the number of MB, multiply the number of GB you desire times 1024. (See
below for further discussion of partition sizes.) Then proceed.

Once the C:\ partition has been shrunk, select the D:\ partition and then
choose "Slide." Simply enter 0 for the value "Free space before..." (I
forget the exact language, but it's obvious.) Once the Slide is finished,
then Resize the same partition to fill the remaining space.

Now, a word about Partition Size. The ideal maximum size for the OS
partition in Windows 98, 98SE and ME (which is always C:\), is 8192 MB, or

8
GB. The reason is that once you go over 8 GB, the FAT32 file system wants

to
enlarge the cluster size from 4 KB to 8, 16 or 32 KB. However, WIn98, 98SE
and ME are built to make particularly efficient use of 4KB clusters.

Memory
is organized into 4KB "pages"--perhaps you can intuit why 4KB clusters are
ideal in this case. If you want a more detailed lesson in clusters, pages,
etc. see www.pcguide.com.

You don't say how large your current C:\ partition is, but if the

deduction
of 10GB still leaves a partition larger than 8GB, consider either adding

the
excess (above 8GB) to D:\, or create a new partition to take care of it. I
like having a partition that's dedicated to TEMP and Temporary Internet
Files. Gets those volatile files (volatile in the sense that lots of files
are getting written, deleted, rewritten, etc.) out of the OS partition

where
they have a tendency to cause problems. The size for such a partition

should
be at least 2GB, but I find 4GB to be even more efficient, since apps like
WinZip can demand a lot of temporary disk space. (There are other good

uses
for this TEMP partition, but we'll leave that alone for now. I like to put
this TEMP partition right after the C:\ partition, but if you have any
Registry or other configuration files that reference D:\, you will

encounter
errors if you change its letter to E:\. It won't be as efficient in
performance, but one solution is to put the TEMP partition at the end of

the
disk.

If you want to delve into this additional partition idea, feel free to

ask.
Only bit of info that is currently missing is how large the hard drive is

in
total. I suggest that before you post back, go get BING (BootIt NG),

create
the floppy and reboot to it, and check to see if there are any hidden
partitions. Won't probably be labeled "Hidden", but it will be obvious.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"B&W801" wrote in message
...
thanks Gary, actually i would like to relocate some capacity from disk

C:
said about 10 GB to add to disk D: which existing have 7.95GB so that

disk
D: will have total 17.95GB. my question is can i do that?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't understand your question. Please try to explain in more detail

what
you want to do. Please tell us about your hard drive(s). How many, and
how
are they partitioned?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"B&W801" wrote in message
...
how to increase local disk capacity from C: to D:? thanks










  #6  
Old September 2nd 05, 05:26 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Bon voyage, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"B&W801" wrote in message
...
thank you for your informative guides in solving my problem.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
First, let's get our terminology straight. Microsoft and others, over the
years, have thoroughly messed up technical definitions in this area. For

the
purposes of this discussion, a disk is a hard drive, and C:, D:, etc. are
"partitions". I'm assuming these are two partitions on one drive. If

that's
not the case, post back before continuing.

The only way to do what you want to do is to use a 3rd-party partitioning
tool like Partition Magic or BootIt NG. I prefer BootIt NG, and for your
purposes there's no need to purchase the product. Get BootIt NG at
http://bootitng.com/bootitng.html Download button is at bottom. After
downloading, extract the contents to a new folder, then run bootitng.exe.
This will create a bootable installation floppy disk (you'll need a good
floppy disk for this, of course.) Then leave the floppy in and hen

restart.
When the installer finishes loading, you'll be prompted to install. DO
NOT
do so. Instead, Cancel the installation. This will drop you into

Maintenance
Mode. From there, choose Partition Work.

In partition Work, click on the C:\ partition. It won't be named C:\, but
you should have no trouble figuring out which it is, probably the top
one,
but your machine's manufacturer may have placed hidden partitions on your
drive, so pay close attention, and if in doubt, figure it out *first*.

Once you've selected your C:\ partition, click on "Resize". Put in the
new
size in MegaBytes. You don't say what size the current C:\, but to

calculate
the number of MB, multiply the number of GB you desire times 1024. (See
below for further discussion of partition sizes.) Then proceed.

Once the C:\ partition has been shrunk, select the D:\ partition and then
choose "Slide." Simply enter 0 for the value "Free space before..." (I
forget the exact language, but it's obvious.) Once the Slide is finished,
then Resize the same partition to fill the remaining space.

Now, a word about Partition Size. The ideal maximum size for the OS
partition in Windows 98, 98SE and ME (which is always C:\), is 8192 MB,
or

8
GB. The reason is that once you go over 8 GB, the FAT32 file system wants

to
enlarge the cluster size from 4 KB to 8, 16 or 32 KB. However, WIn98,
98SE
and ME are built to make particularly efficient use of 4KB clusters.

Memory
is organized into 4KB "pages"--perhaps you can intuit why 4KB clusters
are
ideal in this case. If you want a more detailed lesson in clusters,
pages,
etc. see www.pcguide.com.

You don't say how large your current C:\ partition is, but if the

deduction
of 10GB still leaves a partition larger than 8GB, consider either adding

the
excess (above 8GB) to D:\, or create a new partition to take care of it.
I
like having a partition that's dedicated to TEMP and Temporary Internet
Files. Gets those volatile files (volatile in the sense that lots of
files
are getting written, deleted, rewritten, etc.) out of the OS partition

where
they have a tendency to cause problems. The size for such a partition

should
be at least 2GB, but I find 4GB to be even more efficient, since apps
like
WinZip can demand a lot of temporary disk space. (There are other good

uses
for this TEMP partition, but we'll leave that alone for now. I like to
put
this TEMP partition right after the C:\ partition, but if you have any
Registry or other configuration files that reference D:\, you will

encounter
errors if you change its letter to E:\. It won't be as efficient in
performance, but one solution is to put the TEMP partition at the end of

the
disk.

If you want to delve into this additional partition idea, feel free to

ask.
Only bit of info that is currently missing is how large the hard drive is

in
total. I suggest that before you post back, go get BING (BootIt NG),

create
the floppy and reboot to it, and check to see if there are any hidden
partitions. Won't probably be labeled "Hidden", but it will be obvious.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"B&W801" wrote in message
...
thanks Gary, actually i would like to relocate some capacity from disk

C:
said about 10 GB to add to disk D: which existing have 7.95GB so that

disk
D: will have total 17.95GB. my question is can i do that?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't understand your question. Please try to explain in more detail
what
you want to do. Please tell us about your hard drive(s). How many, and
how
are they partitioned?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"B&W801" wrote in message
...
how to increase local disk capacity from C: to D:? thanks












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Old March 22nd 06, 04:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.display.general
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I just want to thank you for this concise and lucid solution. I got my
Thinkpad almost 5 years ago and have had problems since day one with
the absurdly small c: drive mandated by the OEM installation; I had
given up on finding a solution until I came across this. Thanks again!



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