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You're welcome. Glad to be of service, though my own preferred solution
would have been a bit more elegant, s. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Don/Gen" wrote in message ... Gary, Thanks for all your good work on your Time Zone patch. It worked on both my Win98se and my old but still running Win95!!! Never a bit of trouble at any stage of d/l, install and function. Don |
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Gary
I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I didn't understand I had to set the time manually. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Sorry... http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Gary I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it yesterday on both. Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing changed. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not just that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know what time it really is for your locale. Read my article at http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change myself ! Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... You have it correct. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be at 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the month of October. To quote from PCR's master post: " United States Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates for daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and Canada will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday in November). ......EOQ............ b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving time. In other words, select 2:00 AM. c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day, the corresponding day of the week, and the month that you want. In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click February. See above quote. If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse others nor myself. |
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You shouldn't have had to set the time manually, it's automatic. All I can
say is that if your Time Zone is set to "Eastern (US & Canada)" and your messages are showing "-0400" then you're in Daylight Saving time. Can't say what happened to the clock thing, though it's my understanding that people with several machines to deal with reported that some changed automatically, and others didn't. Dunno... -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Gary I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I didn't understand I had to set the time manually. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Sorry... http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Gary I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it yesterday on both. Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing changed. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not just that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know what time it really is for your locale. Read my article at http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change myself ! Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... You have it correct. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be at 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the month of October. To quote from PCR's master post: " United States Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates for daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and Canada will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday in November). ......EOQ............ b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving time. In other words, select 2:00 AM. c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day, the corresponding day of the week, and the month that you want. In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click February. See above quote. If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse others nor myself. |
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Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you
run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site. those instructions in my own words: 1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on your Desktop. 2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply. 3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone. 4. press OK, and you're done. NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time zone. You may have a different time zone than mine. I hope this helps. On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote: Gary I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I didn't understand I had to set the time manually. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Sorry... http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Gary I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it yesterday on both. Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing changed. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not just that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know what time it really is for your locale. Read my article at http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change myself ! Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... You have it correct. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be at 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the month of October. To quote from PCR's master post: " United States Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates for daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and Canada will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday in November). ......EOQ............ b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving time. In other words, select 2:00 AM. c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day, the corresponding day of the week, and the month that you want. In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click February. See above quote. If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse others nor myself. http://www.vdare.com |
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Don/Gen wrote:
Gary, Thanks for all your good work on your Time Zone patch. It worked on both my Win98se and my old but still running Win95!!! Never a bit of trouble at any stage of d/l, install and function. Don TZedit with Gary's instructions worked perfectly on three of my WinXP machines and three of my Win98SE machines. Thanks Gary Henry |
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I also found it confusing. Gary's instructions are so good that they appear
to be complete. It's not intuitively obvious that once all of Gary's steps have been completed, that the hour must still be manually changed. For clarity I would suggest adding that as a final step. I downloaded http://grystmill.com/downloads/TZ_UP_9x.exe and ran it, then followed Gary's instructions. My clock still showed the time as one hour earlier than it should be, meaning it was still showing the time prior to this new change to DST. I was expecting that the time would automatically change to the correct new DST time, as it used to when Windows handled it. It's not a problem for me to change it, but I think others will not realize that there is still a further step required once Gary's steps have been completed. Thanks Gary for a helpful piece of work. "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site. those instructions in my own words: 1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on your Desktop. 2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply. 3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone. 4. press OK, and you're done. NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time zone. You may have a different time zone than mine. I hope this helps. On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote: Gary I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I didn't understand I had to set the time manually. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Sorry... http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Gary I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it yesterday on both. Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing changed. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not just that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know what time it really is for your locale. Read my article at http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change myself ! Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... You have it correct. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be at 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the month of October. To quote from PCR's master post: " United States Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates for daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and Canada will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday in November). ......EOQ............ b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving time. In other words, select 2:00 AM. c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day, the corresponding day of the week, and the month that you want. In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click February. See above quote. If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse others nor myself. http://www.vdare.com |
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Mine changed automatically. I didn't have to change it manually.
Henry Tuttle wrote: I also found it confusing. Gary's instructions are so good that they appear to be complete. It's not intuitively obvious that once all of Gary's steps have been completed, that the hour must still be manually changed. For clarity I would suggest adding that as a final step. I downloaded http://grystmill.com/downloads/TZ_UP_9x.exe and ran it, then followed Gary's instructions. My clock still showed the time as one hour earlier than it should be, meaning it was still showing the time prior to this new change to DST. I was expecting that the time would automatically change to the correct new DST time, as it used to when Windows handled it. It's not a problem for me to change it, but I think others will not realize that there is still a further step required once Gary's steps have been completed. Thanks Gary for a helpful piece of work. "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site. those instructions in my own words: 1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on your Desktop. 2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply. 3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone. 4. press OK, and you're done. NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time zone. You may have a different time zone than mine. I hope this helps. On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote: Gary I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I didn't understand I had to set the time manually. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Sorry... http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message .. . Gary I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it yesterday on both. Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing changed. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message . .. What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not just that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know what time it really is for your locale. Read my article at http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message .. . Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change myself ! Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message . .. You have it correct. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Not My Name" wrote in message news:a6h6v25g4qblc3av9nkv12ekufn8nvf867@4a x.com... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be at 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the month of October. To quote from PCR's master post: " United States Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates for daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and Canada will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday in November). ......EOQ............ b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving time. In other words, select 2:00 AM. c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day, the corresponding day of the week, and the month that you want. In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click February. See above quote. If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse others nor myself. http://www.vdare.com |
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Did you run the patch before the change was supposed to occur, or
afterwards? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Tuttle" wrote in message ... I also found it confusing. Gary's instructions are so good that they appear to be complete. It's not intuitively obvious that once all of Gary's steps have been completed, that the hour must still be manually changed. For clarity I would suggest adding that as a final step. I downloaded http://grystmill.com/downloads/TZ_UP_9x.exe and ran it, then followed Gary's instructions. My clock still showed the time as one hour earlier than it should be, meaning it was still showing the time prior to this new change to DST. I was expecting that the time would automatically change to the correct new DST time, as it used to when Windows handled it. It's not a problem for me to change it, but I think others will not realize that there is still a further step required once Gary's steps have been completed. Thanks Gary for a helpful piece of work. "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site. those instructions in my own words: 1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on your Desktop. 2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply. 3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone. 4. press OK, and you're done. NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time zone. You may have a different time zone than mine. I hope this helps. On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote: Gary I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I didn't understand I had to set the time manually. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Sorry... http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Gary I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it yesterday on both. Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing changed. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not just that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know what time it really is for your locale. Read my article at http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change myself ! Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... You have it correct. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be at 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the month of October. To quote from PCR's master post: " United States Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates for daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and Canada will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday in November). ......EOQ............ b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving time. In other words, select 2:00 AM. c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day, the corresponding day of the week, and the month that you want. In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click February. See above quote. If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse others nor myself. http://www.vdare.com |
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I ran the patch today. Normally DST would not take effect until about three
weeks from now, just as it was the U.S. prior to this year. So, the automated DST change that Windows normally does would not have occurred yet. This year most of Canada switched to DST early Sunday morning March 11, as did most of the U.S. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Did you run the patch before the change was supposed to occur, or afterwards? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Tuttle" wrote in message ... I also found it confusing. Gary's instructions are so good that they appear to be complete. It's not intuitively obvious that once all of Gary's steps have been completed, that the hour must still be manually changed. For clarity I would suggest adding that as a final step. I downloaded http://grystmill.com/downloads/TZ_UP_9x.exe and ran it, then followed Gary's instructions. My clock still showed the time as one hour earlier than it should be, meaning it was still showing the time prior to this new change to DST. I was expecting that the time would automatically change to the correct new DST time, as it used to when Windows handled it. It's not a problem for me to change it, but I think others will not realize that there is still a further step required once Gary's steps have been completed. Thanks Gary for a helpful piece of work. "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site. those instructions in my own words: 1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on your Desktop. 2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply. 3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone. 4. press OK, and you're done. NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time zone. You may have a different time zone than mine. I hope this helps. On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote: Gary I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I didn't understand I had to set the time manually. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Sorry... http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Gary I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it yesterday on both. Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing changed. Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not just that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know what time it really is for your locale. Read my article at http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Fred" sorry@no can do.net wrote in message ... Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change myself ! Fred "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... You have it correct. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Not My Name" wrote in message ... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be at 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the month of October. To quote from PCR's master post: " United States Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates for daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and Canada will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday in November). ......EOQ............ b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving time. In other words, select 2:00 AM. c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day, the corresponding day of the week, and the month that you want. In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click February. See above quote. If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse others nor myself. http://www.vdare.com |
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Gary, I was just curious, did you ever find any problems with that other DST
update that had been posted last year? (from that MSFN web site; it was a small exe file that included an INF file, but the ID numbers got a bit confusing, as you recall). I had used that one, and it worked fine over here, and there was no setup routine (except after installation, it did force a reboot). But I was just curious what you had found in that regard. I'm assuming yours is quite similar, but in yours I think you said you had to initially change the time zone and then change it back to get it to stick, and yours saves a backup of the previous settings, which this other one doesn't. (if my memory is right) |
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