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Old March 21st 05, 05:10 PM
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I'm running W98SE on a ThinkPad 770E with 96 mb RAM and a 5 gb IDE
drive.

Is there any logical move up the system ladder for minor home computing
(minimal web surfing like TV Guide, email, news, small program running,
no action gaming - only stuff like solitaire, etc., some music playing)
without resource upgrading? I've heard bad things about ME and 2000.
I'd expect XP to demand far more resources.

If I did upgrade my 770E memory and drive capacity, would it really
benefit me noticably?

Jim L

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Old March 22nd 05, 03:20 PM
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This page shows the minimum and recommended requirements for Windows XP and
it appears that your system meets the minimum requirements but not the
recommended.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...n/sysreqs.mspx

My suggestion would be not to upgrade this laptop but to put that money
towards a new system. New laptops can be had for very little more than the
cost of adding RAM, upgrading your hard drive and purchasing a new operating
system. The new system will come with more RAM, larger hard drive, and
Windows XP plus a much faster processor, probably a DVD/CD-RW drive, built
in wireless and wired networking, USB 2.0, etc.

You might want to check out Http://www.pricegrabbers.com or one of the other
sites that searches multiple retailers for prices just to see what you can
get these days. Also check out your Sunday newspaper for ads from Office
Max, Office Depot, Staples, etc or see them online. I have a friend who
just got a new HP from Office Max for about $500 including shipping.

You might also want to just keep this system as is for a while longer. I
would not expect you to see an upgrade give you a big performance boost for
the type of usage that you describe since it doesn't appear to stress the
resources that you currently have. Your Internet browsing is limited by the
speed of your Internet connection and not likely by your system's resources.

PattyL


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I'm running W98SE on a ThinkPad 770E with 96 mb RAM and a 5 gb IDE
drive.

Is there any logical move up the system ladder for minor home computing
(minimal web surfing like TV Guide, email, news, small program running,
no action gaming - only stuff like solitaire, etc., some music playing)
without resource upgrading? I've heard bad things about ME and 2000.
I'd expect XP to demand far more resources.

If I did upgrade my 770E memory and drive capacity, would it really
benefit me noticably?

Jim L

--
"Don't call it a crisis until you can't fix it," Obstructionist Party.



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Old March 24th 05, 01:56 AM
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On 03/22/2005 at 08:20 AM, "PattyL" said:

Thanks for your reply

Your Internet browsing is limited by the speed of your Internet
connection and not likely by your system's resources.


This (and a new utility) suggests a new question. The utility shows
TXing to be a lot slower then RXing. Does system speed affect that
much?

Jim L

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Old March 24th 05, 04:09 AM
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I'm in the same boat (old laptop, minimal uses) and REALLY appreciate the
info --- reinforces my resisting shelling out for another one just now.

Thanks.

"PattyL" wrote:

This page shows the minimum and recommended requirements for Windows XP and
it appears that your system meets the minimum requirements but not the
recommended.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...n/sysreqs.mspx

My suggestion would be not to upgrade this laptop but to put that money
towards a new system. New laptops can be had for very little more than the
cost of adding RAM, upgrading your hard drive and purchasing a new operating
system. The new system will come with more RAM, larger hard drive, and
Windows XP plus a much faster processor, probably a DVD/CD-RW drive, built
in wireless and wired networking, USB 2.0, etc.

You might want to check out Http://www.pricegrabbers.com or one of the other
sites that searches multiple retailers for prices just to see what you can
get these days. Also check out your Sunday newspaper for ads from Office
Max, Office Depot, Staples, etc or see them online. I have a friend who
just got a new HP from Office Max for about $500 including shipping.

You might also want to just keep this system as is for a while longer. I
would not expect you to see an upgrade give you a big performance boost for
the type of usage that you describe since it doesn't appear to stress the
resources that you currently have. Your Internet browsing is limited by the
speed of your Internet connection and not likely by your system's resources.

PattyL


wrote in message
...
I'm running W98SE on a ThinkPad 770E with 96 mb RAM and a 5 gb IDE
drive.

Is there any logical move up the system ladder for minor home computing
(minimal web surfing like TV Guide, email, news, small program running,
no action gaming - only stuff like solitaire, etc., some music playing)
without resource upgrading? I've heard bad things about ME and 2000.
I'd expect XP to demand far more resources.

If I did upgrade my 770E memory and drive capacity, would it really
benefit me noticably?

Jim L

--
"Don't call it a crisis until you can't fix it," Obstructionist Party.




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Old March 25th 05, 01:09 AM
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A lot of the Rx data will be compressed, whereas very little of the Tx data
is compressed.
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On 03/22/2005 at 08:20 AM, "PattyL" said:

Thanks for your reply

Your Internet browsing is limited by the speed of your Internet
connection and not likely by your system's resources.


This (and a new utility) suggests a new question. The utility shows
TXing to be a lot slower then RXing. Does system speed affect that
much?

Jim L

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"Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein were obviously very, very different,"
No No the Mous.



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Old March 25th 05, 08:45 AM
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On 03/23/2005 at 07:09 PM, Callie
said:

I'm in the same boat (old laptop, minimal uses) and REALLY appreciate
the info --- reinforces my resisting shelling out for another one just
now.


I'd love to get the fastest, most powerful notebook available and forget
PC's completely. I find it really unfortunate that notebooks cost way,
way more compared to PC's (actually, way, way more than I'll ever be
able to afford) when new.

Jim L

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"Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein were obviously very, very different,"
No No the Mous.
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Old March 25th 05, 10:31 PM
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My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

On 03/23/2005 at 07:09 PM, Callie
said:

I'm in the same boat (old laptop, minimal uses) and REALLY appreciate
the info --- reinforces my resisting shelling out for another one
just now.


I'd love to get the fastest, most powerful notebook available and
forget PC's completely. I find it really unfortunate that notebooks
cost way, way more compared to PC's (actually, way, way more than
I'll ever be able to afford) when new.

Jim L


Jim,

Prices are really dropping. You can get a decent laptop at fairly good
prices. I've taken a peek at Pricewatch.com (this would be WITHOUT an OS)
for a fairly good price.

Take a peek in this area of the site:

http://www.pricewatch.com/h/prc.aspx?i=336&p=4

I do a great deal of shopping through their site and I recommend that you
read the feedback portion. Keep in mind when reading them that MOST people
don't bother to leave feedback unless they're upset. Happy shoppers tend to
move on and forget about feedback. I tend to leave positive feedback every
time there is some and, to be honest, I've never had to leave negative
feedback yet. Then again I am a bit anal about this sort of stuff and I read
all of the feedback given before ordering and I usually contact the company
with some inane question and wait to see how long it takes them to answer
and how well they answer the question before making a major purchase with
the company. If you look in the category under $500 you can get a 1 GHz for
a bit less than $500 with shipping included. It's not state of the art. It's
refurbished. It does still come with a warranty (always check that before
buying) and you already have an OS.

If you want one with an Operating System you can find a "decent enough"
lappy for under $750. There's one that I was just looking at (will actually
probably consider buying it just because I want to see what Acer's been up
to lately as I'm generally a Toshiba fan for lappies but I've never been
100% brand specific when there's a better model at a better price available)
that has a 40 GB HDD, DVD-CDRW, Wi-Fi, XP Home, 2.8 GHz, and 256 MB RAM. Not
bad at all really. State of the art? No, there's bigger and better but there
always will be. I buy a new tower seemingly every other month or so to add
to my collection here and never ever have the absolute best product
available. I shop slow, smart, and I get what I want at the best price that
I'm able to find. Considering that I live in a VERY remote area it's only
natural that I buy online but even if I didn't I'd probably continue to do
the same just because of the benefits. To get to the nearest acceptable
computer store I'm looking at a 150 mile round trip but sometimes I make the
trip to see the product before I buy it.

Anyhow, I just wanted to point out that there were some decent products
available at very good prices these days. The above Acer is, in my opinion,
a steal at that price considering it wasn't that long ago that a laptop was
costing me about $3000 and had far less acceptable hardware than the above
does. There's also Froogle.com which is also able to be used per your
country so you could use froogle.co.uk if you lived in the UK for instance.

Galen
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Old March 25th 05, 11:02 PM
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On 03/25/2005 at 04:31 PM, "Galen" said:

Take a peek in this area of the site:


http://www.pricewatch.com/h/prc.aspx?i=336&p=4


I do a great deal of shopping through their site and I recommend that
you read the feedback portion.


Thanks. I'll (gak) give this a look. I used PriceWatch for years until
it got to where when you did a search they displayed several times more
stuff you were not searching for than you were searching for - making
them primarily a broadcast advertising station. So to speak, if I look
for a certain kind of dog I get hits on all kinds of pets, pet food and
accessories.

Jim L

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"Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein were obviously very, very different,"
No No the Mous.
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Old March 26th 05, 06:21 AM
Galen
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In ,
had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

On 03/25/2005 at 04:31 PM, "Galen" said:

Take a peek in this area of the site:


http://www.pricewatch.com/h/prc.aspx?i=336&p=4

I do a great deal of shopping through their site and I recommend that
you read the feedback portion.


Thanks. I'll (gak) give this a look. I used PriceWatch for years
until it got to where when you did a search they displayed several
times more stuff you were not searching for than you were searching
for - making them primarily a broadcast advertising station. So to
speak, if I look for a certain kind of dog I get hits on all kinds of
pets, pet food and accessories.

Jim L


It's changed a bit over the years. I use the category to find what I want. I
also use Froogle.com a bit too. I understand your complaint but they truly
have improved lately. newegg.com (if the URL is right) was another one that
I'd used not too long ago but didn't like the format and it too seemed too
commercial. I like the pricewatch.com site BUT I also always right click
open in new window to the directory and find what I want on my own without
using their search. I did end up ordering the Acer, I couldn't help it. I
have an Acer tablet (newest Acer that I own) because someone named Pepsi
(long story) and Mark were talking about them all the time. I ended up
getting a Motion but don't actually use either of them very often. Actually
I'm often inclined to take one of them to bed with me and use it to read
ebooks on various subjects. My wife doesn't approve... Though I keep looking
at the Powerbooks... drool

Galen
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Old April 4th 05, 03:12 PM
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On 03/25/2005 at 04:31 PM, "Galen" said:



http://www.pricewatch.com/h/prc.aspx?i=336&p=4


I do a great deal of shopping through their site


Frankly it must be a lot of work. I clicked "Buy" on a dozen items.
All but one took me not to the item but to the company's home page.
That one took me to a "Not available" page.

Jim L

 




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