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PCI Device Not working
I installed the chip set and downloaded the drivers that i was asked to
by the HP Sucpport said to do and still does not work its a BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX dc7600 ,, GO FIGURE |
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PCI Device Not working
You need to provide specific details on what the problem is. If there are
error messages, provide them verbatim. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "HP BAD service" wrote in message oups.com... I installed the chip set and downloaded the drivers that i was asked to by the HP Sucpport said to do and still does not work its a BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX dc7600 ,, GO FIGURE |
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PCI Device Not working
Specs regarding cpu speed, and memory size are beyond windows 98's
capability to handle, the memory size requires a tweak at minimum. http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/Sp...itemId=1936969 ME can handle the cpu speed, but not the amount of installed RAM for same reason. Install XP w/SP2, be done with it. Do the drivers support the SATA interface in 98? When do those get installed? Same should be considered if installing XP. XP Pro is provided with this PC. So are drivers. Are the drivers compatible with win98? Can a 64 bit processor backpedal for 32 bit operations? How does one install drivers if "it still doesn't work", implying it works to some degree. This is a dual core cpu, does win98 support that? If you're attempting proper operatiin in an XP environment, go to an XP newsgroup. -- Lil' Dave Beware the rule quoters, the corp mindset, the Borg Else you will be absorbed "HP BAD service" wrote in message oups.com... I installed the chip set and downloaded the drivers that i was asked to by the HP Sucpport said to do and still does not work its a BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX dc7600 ,, GO FIGURE |
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PCI Device Not working
Win98 can handle 1GB RAM no problem - all you need to do is play a bit!g.
For a clean install you'd need to reduce the RAM to 512MB until after Win98 is installed, then modify the SYSTEM.INI file after the [vcache] header, add/insert a line saying MaxFileCache=512000 save the file, and shut down - then upgrade the RAM again to the full 1GB, and you're away. I can run Win98 on a Sempron 3000, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem on a 3.2GHz P4 (which is NOT a 64bit chip!) Win98 will run happily on a Dual-core chip - but only know about one of the cores, although the on-chip controllers will actually utilise both. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Jonny" wrote in message ... Specs regarding cpu speed, and memory size are beyond windows 98's capability to handle, the memory size requires a tweak at minimum. http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/Sp...itemId=1936969 ME can handle the cpu speed, but not the amount of installed RAM for same reason. Install XP w/SP2, be done with it. Do the drivers support the SATA interface in 98? When do those get installed? Same should be considered if installing XP. XP Pro is provided with this PC. So are drivers. Are the drivers compatible with win98? Can a 64 bit processor backpedal for 32 bit operations? How does one install drivers if "it still doesn't work", implying it works to some degree. This is a dual core cpu, does win98 support that? If you're attempting proper operatiin in an XP environment, go to an XP newsgroup. -- Lil' Dave Beware the rule quoters, the corp mindset, the Borg Else you will be absorbed "HP BAD service" wrote in message oups.com... I installed the chip set and downloaded the drivers that i was asked to by the HP Sucpport said to do and still does not work its a BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX dc7600 ,, GO FIGURE |
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lousy defrag & scandisk
| after the [vcache] header, add/insert a line saying
| MaxFileCache=512000 | Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Are MVPs Microsoft*'s employees who designed each windows os ? If yes, then [i] why doesn't * in its site offer a batch file to enable 98se to use 1gb ram ? [ii] why does * continue to sell 98se with the same defrag & scandisk utilities which are lousy ( only ½ as fast ) when compared to Win ME's ? [iii] if a licensed user of 98se replaced these 2 utilities with WinME's version ( work fine in 98se ), must he own a license of WinME too ? |
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lousy defrag & scandisk
MVP's are NOT Microsoft employees - in fact if you're an MVP and get a job
in MS, you have to resign from the MVP program. This helps us to retain our independence, and prevents us getting shackled by 'company policy'. For details of the MVP program see http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx The information on this (the RAM 'limit' problem) issue has been posted for at least 4 years that I know of - look here http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=253912 - it's not been a problem that many have encountered during clean installs, simply because most Win9x clean installs until recently were on machines with considerably less than 512MB. MS has not sold Win 98SE since around 2002 - but they can't stop resellers selling remaindered stock, or System builders stockpiling, and then selling on. Win98 was officially due to be 'killed off' as far as MS were concerned in 2002(?) - but they realised that this would impact a very large number of users, and have continued to support Security updates until 2006 - look here http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx What two utilities are you talking about?? - ScanDisk and Defrag? AFAIK, although technically it would be a breach of the license for the process, MS has turned a blind eye to this - and it is a 'fix' that has been advocated almost ever since the release of ME (if not before). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "TE Cheah" wrote in message ... | after the [vcache] header, add/insert a line saying | MaxFileCache=512000 | Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Are MVPs Microsoft*'s employees who designed each windows os ? If yes, then [i] why doesn't * in its site offer a batch file to enable 98se to use 1gb ram ? [ii] why does * continue to sell 98se with the same defrag & scandisk utilities which are lousy ( only ½ as fast ) when compared to Win ME's ? [iii] if a licensed user of 98se replaced these 2 utilities with WinME's version ( work fine in 98se ), must he own a license of WinME too ? |
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PCI Device Not working
Replies enclosed below.
-- Lil' Dave Beware the rule quoters, the corp mindset, the Borg Else you will be absorbed "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Win98 can handle 1GB RAM no problem - all you need to do is play a bit!g. For a clean install you'd need to reduce the RAM to 512MB until after Win98 is installed, then modify the SYSTEM.INI file after the [vcache] header, add/insert a line saying MaxFileCache=512000 save the file, and shut down - then upgrade the RAM again to the full 1GB, and you're away. I said that, in few words. Did you read? I can run Win98 on a Sempron 3000, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem on a 3.2GHz P4 (which is NOT a 64bit chip!) If 98SE, yep. 98 nope. One file will not cooperate during initial boot after install. And you probably know what it is anyway. Win98 will run happily on a Dual-core chip - but only know about one of the cores, although the on-chip controllers will actually utilise both. Nice to know. Am transitioning all my stuff to XP during holidays. So, makes no difference here. The PC mentioned by the OP comes with XP, not windows 98. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Jonny" wrote in message ... Specs regarding cpu speed, and memory size are beyond windows 98's capability to handle, the memory size requires a tweak at minimum. http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/Sp...itemId=1936969 ME can handle the cpu speed, but not the amount of installed RAM for same reason. Install XP w/SP2, be done with it. Do the drivers support the SATA interface in 98? When do those get installed? Same should be considered if installing XP. XP Pro is provided with this PC. So are drivers. Are the drivers compatible with win98? Can a 64 bit processor backpedal for 32 bit operations? How does one install drivers if "it still doesn't work", implying it works to some degree. This is a dual core cpu, does win98 support that? If you're attempting proper operatiin in an XP environment, go to an XP newsgroup. -- Lil' Dave Beware the rule quoters, the corp mindset, the Borg Else you will be absorbed "HP BAD service" wrote in message oups.com... I installed the chip set and downloaded the drivers that i was asked to by the HP Sucpport said to do and still does not work its a BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX dc7600 ,, GO FIGURE |
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lousy defrag & scandisk
To add to the dilema, there's also a total files equivalency to 128GB
limitation. You can use a 200GB hard drive, given the proper partitioning and formatting tools. When the total size of all the files exceed 128GB, the filesystem will exhibit gibberish. Many files will be renamed to gibberish, and made into multiple files in most situations. Multiple partitions makes no difference. The limitation is on the hard drive itself, not a given partition. Haven't seen an MS KB on this, and its becoming more widely known. Some recommend using an equivalent 128GB or less hard drive with 98/98SE/ME PC to avoid this problem. XP does not have this problem, and the fat32 partitions on such a capacity or larger hard drive do not exhibit these discrepancies. When written, MS was betting most would be done with 98 and ME before the hardware limitations of the OS become a problem. Its easier to hold a deaf ear to a few, rather than many. As time goes on, the former becomes more true. -- Lil' Dave Beware the rule quoters, the corp mindset, the Borg Else you will be absorbed "TE Cheah" wrote in message ... | after the [vcache] header, add/insert a line saying | MaxFileCache=512000 | Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Are MVPs Microsoft*'s employees who designed each windows os ? If yes, then [i] why doesn't * in its site offer a batch file to enable 98se to use 1gb ram ? [ii] why does * continue to sell 98se with the same defrag & scandisk utilities which are lousy ( only ½ as fast ) when compared to Win ME's ? [iii] if a licensed user of 98se replaced these 2 utilities with WinME's version ( work fine in 98se ), must he own a license of WinME too ? |
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lousy defrag & scandisk
There is an limit of around 138 GB which is caused by the fact that
the motherboard may not support 48-bit adressing - which is NOT a problem with the HD, but rather with the motherboard BIOS. All large HD's have to use 48-bit addressing, or there's not enough pointers to show all the clusters. Win98 and SE do not support 48-bit LBA and cannot therefore read drives beyond the end of the limit - although they will sometimes try. A compliant BIOS understands non-48-bit LBA, and converts it for the drive - again, this is an OS/driver/BIOS limitation not a problem with the HD also.... (from http://www.48bitlba.com/faq.htm#FAQ1) quote 7. If Microsoft is not providing any Service Packs to Windows 98, 98SE, or ME to support 48-bit LBA hard drives, are there any other options to make my 48-bit LBA hard drive work with these versions of Windows besides what you've listed on this site? Rudolph Loew has created a patch for Windows 98/98SE/ME. The High Capacity Disk Patch Program patches Windows 98/98SE/ME to provide direct support for hard drives larger than 137GB without requiring a controller card or the Intel Application Accelerator which can only be used with an Intel chipset motherboard. The patch installs support for the 48-Bit addressing mode required for hard drives larger than 137GB. We have not tested this patch ourselves and thus cannot provide any recommendations positive or negative as to it's use. You will find this patch at http://members.aol.com/rloew1/ Besides the Intel Application Accelerator which requires a motherboard with an Intel chipset, drivers for other chipsets may be available. We have been informed by one user that VIA has drivers which support 48-bit LBA for their chipsets. For latest driver list check out Drivers section under 48-bit LBA Tools & Drivers section on the left. /quote There is another issue, in that the native Windows 98SE ScanDisk and Defrag utilities are limited to smaller partition sizes and may not function on partitions greater than 127GB. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;263044 People tend to forget that when Win 98 came out, 40GB drives were considered HUGE - I know mine came with a very expensive 10GB drive which I was sure I'd never fill! WinXP cannot *create* FAT32 partitions greater than 32MB - although it can use (and be installed on, AFAIK) FAT32 partitions of almost any size. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Jonny" wrote in message ... To add to the dilema, there's also a total files equivalency to 128GB limitation. You can use a 200GB hard drive, given the proper partitioning and formatting tools. When the total size of all the files exceed 128GB, the filesystem will exhibit gibberish. Many files will be renamed to gibberish, and made into multiple files in most situations. Multiple partitions makes no difference. The limitation is on the hard drive itself, not a given partition. Haven't seen an MS KB on this, and its becoming more widely known. Some recommend using an equivalent 128GB or less hard drive with 98/98SE/ME PC to avoid this problem. XP does not have this problem, and the fat32 partitions on such a capacity or larger hard drive do not exhibit these discrepancies. When written, MS was betting most would be done with 98 and ME before the hardware limitations of the OS become a problem. Its easier to hold a deaf ear to a few, rather than many. As time goes on, the former becomes more true. -- Lil' Dave Beware the rule quoters, the corp mindset, the Borg Else you will be absorbed "TE Cheah" wrote in message ... | after the [vcache] header, add/insert a line saying | MaxFileCache=512000 | Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Are MVPs Microsoft*'s employees who designed each windows os ? If yes, then [i] why doesn't * in its site offer a batch file to enable 98se to use 1gb ram ? [ii] why does * continue to sell 98se with the same defrag & scandisk utilities which are lousy ( only ½ as fast ) when compared to Win ME's ? [iii] if a licensed user of 98se replaced these 2 utilities with WinME's version ( work fine in 98se ), must he own a license of WinME too ? |
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lousy defrag & scandisk
Thanks for reply.
| This helps us to retain our independence Wow ! Very generous with your time. i] When I press F3 to list all files in 'Temporary Internet Files', only 10 '000 can be listed. Can this limit be increased ? ii] When Windows Explorer & IE6 display files' sizes, the unit (KB) used is repeated for every file, & so wastes desktop space ( width ). Can this unit ( KB ) be shown in just the title of this column ? iii] Scanreg ( dos utility ) offers only 5 of the oldest registries saved. Can 5 be offered ? iv] Can 98se be altered to support USB devices like WinME can ( i.e. no need for drivers ) ? |
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