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Old July 10th 05, 05:46 PM
Alley
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My computer or OS (Win98se), is generating short file names out of
existing files with long file names that have a tilde (~) in the name.
It doesn't generate or duplicate all files this way, just some. Does
anyone know what might be causing this? Thanks.

Al
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Old July 10th 05, 06:19 PM
PCR
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I still don't get it. Are you saying files that already have a tilde (~)
in their name are getting duplicated? Or they are getting a new SFN?
Better give an example of before/after names/files/whatever. Are you,
yourself, putting one of the tildes in there? Then, don't do that!

(1) "START button, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
(2) DIR *~* /a
(3) Use "MARK". outline text with mouse, "COPY" to post it.

C:\DIR *~* /a
Directory of C:\
PROGRA~1 DIR 07-22-99 12:13a Program Files
MYDOCU~1 DIR 07-22-99 1:13a My Documents
WINDOW~1 DIR 07-31-01 10:39p Windows Update Setup Files
CHESSV~1 DIR 08-02-01 1:30a Chessvision
MSDOSS~1 FIX 1,676 11-15-99 2:24p MSDOS.SYS.FIXED
MYSYST~1 DIR 08-18-01 6:18p My System
WINDOW~1 BMK 63 08-18-01 6:36p WINDOWSWinHlp32.BMK
ULTRA6~1 DIR 01-26-02 6:14p Ultra66-100_160_B36
UTILIT~1 DIR 04-09-05 1:03p Utilities
2 file(s) 1,739 bytes
7 dir(s) 6,773.97 MB free


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Naturally, you will not sue,
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"Alley" wrote in message
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| In article ,
|
says...
|
| My computer or OS (Win98se), is generating short file names out of
| existing files with long file names that have a tilde (~) in the
name.
| It doesn't generate or duplicate all files this way, just some. Does
| anyone know what might be causing this? Thanks.
|
| Al
|
|
| Just to clear something up... the files are being duplicated, not just
| renamed, so there are two sets of these files, not just renamed files.
| Thanks.
|
| Al


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Old July 10th 05, 06:19 PM posted to alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
PCR
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I still don't get it. Are you saying files that already have a tilde (~)
in their name are getting duplicated? Or they are getting a new SFN?
Better give an example of before/after names/files/whatever. Are you,
yourself, putting one of the tildes in there? Then, don't do that!

(1) "START button, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
(2) DIR *~* /a
(3) Use "MARK". outline text with mouse, "COPY" to post it.

C:\DIR *~* /a
Directory of C:\
PROGRA~1 DIR 07-22-99 12:13a Program Files
MYDOCU~1 DIR 07-22-99 1:13a My Documents
WINDOW~1 DIR 07-31-01 10:39p Windows Update Setup Files
CHESSV~1 DIR 08-02-01 1:30a Chessvision
MSDOSS~1 FIX 1,676 11-15-99 2:24p MSDOS.SYS.FIXED
MYSYST~1 DIR 08-18-01 6:18p My System
WINDOW~1 BMK 63 08-18-01 6:36p WINDOWSWinHlp32.BMK
ULTRA6~1 DIR 01-26-02 6:14p Ultra66-100_160_B36
UTILIT~1 DIR 04-09-05 1:03p Utilities
2 file(s) 1,739 bytes
7 dir(s) 6,773.97 MB free


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Alley" wrote in message
...
| In article ,
|
says...
|
| My computer or OS (Win98se), is generating short file names out of
| existing files with long file names that have a tilde (~) in the
name.
| It doesn't generate or duplicate all files this way, just some. Does
| anyone know what might be causing this? Thanks.
|
| Al
|
|
| Just to clear something up... the files are being duplicated, not just
| renamed, so there are two sets of these files, not just renamed files.
| Thanks.
|
| Al


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Old July 10th 05, 07:46 PM
Don Phillipson
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"Alley" wrote in message
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My computer or OS (Win98se), is generating short file names out of
existing files with long file names that have a tilde (~) in the name.
It doesn't generate or duplicate all files this way, just some. Does
anyone know what might be causing this? Thanks.


Win98 has a utility that is supposed to maintain
(or recover?) long file names --
c:\windows\command\SULFNBK.EXE
You might want to / start / run / SFC.EXE
= System File Checker
to see whether yours has been damaged.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old July 10th 05, 07:46 PM posted to alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Don Phillipson
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Default Computer Generates ~

"Alley" wrote in message
...

My computer or OS (Win98se), is generating short file names out of
existing files with long file names that have a tilde (~) in the name.
It doesn't generate or duplicate all files this way, just some. Does
anyone know what might be causing this? Thanks.


Win98 has a utility that is supposed to maintain
(or recover?) long file names --
c:\windows\command\SULFNBK.EXE
You might want to / start / run / SFC.EXE
= System File Checker
to see whether yours has been damaged.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old July 11th 05, 10:39 AM
Jeff Richards
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This program is not used for recovering long filenames. It is used to
create long file name references for certain files that the system creates
during the Windows upgrade procedure that would otherwise only be known by
their short file name.

The program for backing up and restoring long filenames is LFNBK.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
snip

Win98 has a utility that is supposed to maintain
(or recover?) long file names --
c:\windows\command\SULFNBK.EXE
You might want to / start / run / SFC.EXE
= System File Checker
to see whether yours has been damaged.



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Old July 11th 05, 10:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Jeff Richards
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This program is not used for recovering long filenames. It is used to
create long file name references for certain files that the system creates
during the Windows upgrade procedure that would otherwise only be known by
their short file name.

The program for backing up and restoring long filenames is LFNBK.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
snip

Win98 has a utility that is supposed to maintain
(or recover?) long file names --
c:\windows\command\SULFNBK.EXE
You might want to / start / run / SFC.EXE
= System File Checker
to see whether yours has been damaged.



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Old July 12th 05, 03:38 AM
cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:46:37 GMT, Alley wrote:

My computer or OS (Win98se), is generating short file names out of
existing files with long file names that have a tilde (~) in the name.
It doesn't generate or duplicate all files this way, just some. Does
anyone know what might be causing this? Thanks.


Note: Not everything with a tilde in it is a "short name" as such.
Several temp files have names that often start with a tilde, and
tildes can be placed anywhere in a short or long file name.

But if you mean 8.3 names of the form XXXXXX~n.XXX, those are the real
names that were always there, under the Long File Name (LFN).

If a file with an LFN is processed by software that does not "know"
LFNs, then the LFNs will be stripped away. Examples include:
- DOS mode
- Winfile.exe (File Manager from Win3.yuk, included in Win9x)
- PK Zip 2.04g, i.e. PKZip.exe and PKUnZip.exe
- Lap Link for DOS, e.g. LL3.exe
- any pre-Win95 file system tools, e.g. defraggers, dir sorters
- any Win3.yuk or DOS progs, e.g. WP51, Word 6 etc.



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