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Without analysing further, it's safe to say it's supposedly filtering spam
isn't it. Like a really, really lazy approach to rule making. Does this reflect the priority almost bordering on contempt they have for the legacy groups? Or are the still supported system groups also so badly filtered? Shane Mike M wrote: Mike M wrote: Yes, No 4 or 4a. however 4a1, 4a2 and 4a3 have all appeared. And lo & behold 4a1 has now been deleted! Mike |
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Shane facetious'r'.us wrote:
Without analysing further, it's safe to say it's supposedly filtering spam isn't it. Like a really, really lazy approach to rule making. Does this reflect the priority almost bordering on contempt they have for the legacy groups? Or are the still supported system groups also so badly filtered? Put simply, those involved at MS simply don't give a damn about those wishing to use nntp. Support's long since been flushed down the tubes. All that MS now cares about is Bing Bong, Windows Dead and how many boxes/licenses they can flog. End users no longer feature in their plans. As for rule making, those involved know little about rule making and expressions and when I last had dealings with them were simply filtering on specific character strings which is why the spammers found it so easy to return time and time again although I have to admit that MS do seem to have managed to reduce spam nowadays to a trickle. -- Mike |
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Mike M wrote:
Put simply, those involved at MS simply don't give a damn about those wishing to use nntp. What exactly is wrong with you people? News flash: You don't need to point your news reader to microsoft.com in order to read and post to these microsoft.public.what-ever newsgroups. Try nntp.aioe.org instead. When microsoft removes windowsme and win98 newsgroups from their server, those groups will still be active and available on the rest of the world's usenet servers. And you people will be left in the dark. |
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You really are completely clueless aren't you?
Posting to the MS nntp servers is necessary for two reasons: a) To verify that the MS servers are incorrectly filtering valid posts and to get that fixed if possible, b) To ensure that those who use the MS servers are able to read all messages posted to this NG. May I suggest you go back to playing with your dolls and in future only post here if and when you have something useful to contribute. MM Totally Clueless 98 Guy wrote: Mike M wrote: Put simply, those involved at MS simply don't give a damn about those wishing to use nntp. What exactly is wrong with you people? News flash: You don't need to point your news reader to microsoft.com in order to read and post to these microsoft.public.what-ever newsgroups. Try nntp.aioe.org instead. When microsoft removes windowsme and win98 newsgroups from their server, those groups will still be active and available on the rest of the world's usenet servers. And you people will be left in the dark. |
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Mike M top-poasted:
You really are completely clueless aren't you? You're the clueless one, and I'll explain why. Posting to the MS nntp servers is necessary for two reasons: a) To verify that the MS servers are incorrectly filtering valid posts and to get that fixed if possible, You have the impression that the only place or the only server where you can read and post messages to this newsgroun is hosted by Microsoft, and that you must spend your energy to do what it takes so that server operates correctly. The reality is that microsoft operates their NNTP server on an absentee basis. It has never been shown (not at least during the past 10 years) that any resonsible person can be reached at micrsofot who administers their server or who is in a position to change, improve, fix how they operate. And microsoft is, by far, NOT the only server where you can read and post messages to this newsgroup. Microsoft does not control these microsoft.* newsgroups, or act in any way as a central organizer, aggregator, or maintainer of them. I am making this post via the aioe.org server, and it is one of many usener PEERS, just as microsoft's servers are also PEERS. This post that I'm making will be transmitted between usenet peering servers, and will eventually reach microsoft's server where it will be accepted and made available to those that read messages directly from the microsoft server. If the rules on the microsoft server are faulty or applied incorrectly, such that the MS server rejects my post, that rejection has no effect on whether or not other servers around the world will carry my post (they almost certainly will, with no regard or knowledge if microsoft rejected it). b) To ensure that those who use the MS servers are able to read all messages posted to this NG. It is more pragmatic and practical to simply change your news server rather than make a futile attempt to engage some anonymous microsoft sys-admin and get them to realize there is a problem with how they are administering their servers and get them to fix it. May I suggest you go back to playing with your dolls and in future only post here if and when you have something useful to contribute. You may suggest it, but others reading this will realize that I am making a logical and effective recommendation as to how to handle this problem that you and others are experiencing, and that your name calling and child-like language reflects a juvenille intellect and inability to discuss technical issues like an adult. |
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You really are stupid and simply do not have a clue and know nothing about
how Microsoft manage their nntp servers. For example I can easily demonstrate that: It has never been shown (not at least during the past 10 years) that any resonsible person can be reached at micrsofot who administers their server or who is in a position to change, Is untrue but then again why waste my time on an idiot such as yourself who demonstrably knows little and has nothing to contribute. In other words is a total waste of space and air. If I simply want to have a conversation with Shane all I need do is e-mail him or better pick up the phone but then again, you're too stupid to even understand that. PLONK MM 98 Guy wrote: Mike M top-poasted: You really are completely clueless aren't you? You're the clueless one, and I'll explain why. Posting to the MS nntp servers is necessary for two reasons: a) To verify that the MS servers are incorrectly filtering valid posts and to get that fixed if possible, You have the impression that the only place or the only server where you can read and post messages to this newsgroun is hosted by Microsoft, and that you must spend your energy to do what it takes so that server operates correctly. The reality is that microsoft operates their NNTP server on an absentee basis. It has never been shown (not at least during the past 10 years) that any resonsible person can be reached at micrsofot who administers their server or who is in a position to change, improve, fix how they operate. And microsoft is, by far, NOT the only server where you can read and post messages to this newsgroup. Microsoft does not control these microsoft.* newsgroups, or act in any way as a central organizer, aggregator, or maintainer of them. I am making this post via the aioe.org server, and it is one of many usener PEERS, just as microsoft's servers are also PEERS. This post that I'm making will be transmitted between usenet peering servers, and will eventually reach microsoft's server where it will be accepted and made available to those that read messages directly from the microsoft server. If the rules on the microsoft server are faulty or applied incorrectly, such that the MS server rejects my post, that rejection has no effect on whether or not other servers around the world will carry my post (they almost certainly will, with no regard or knowledge if microsoft rejected it). b) To ensure that those who use the MS servers are able to read all messages posted to this NG. It is more pragmatic and practical to simply change your news server rather than make a futile attempt to engage some anonymous microsoft sys-admin and get them to realize there is a problem with how they are administering their servers and get them to fix it. May I suggest you go back to playing with your dolls and in future only post here if and when you have something useful to contribute. You may suggest it, but others reading this will realize that I am making a logical and effective recommendation as to how to handle this problem that you and others are experiencing, and that your name calling and child-like language reflects a juvenille intellect and inability to discuss technical issues like an adult. |
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Ha! ha! ...go play with his dolls! Priceless! You haven't lost your
edge Mike, give them trolls more of those well deserved gems! John Mike M wrote: You really are completely clueless aren't you? Posting to the MS nntp servers is necessary for two reasons: a) To verify that the MS servers are incorrectly filtering valid posts and to get that fixed if possible, b) To ensure that those who use the MS servers are able to read all messages posted to this NG. May I suggest you go back to playing with your dolls and in future only post here if and when you have something useful to contribute. MM Totally Clueless 98 Guy wrote: Mike M wrote: Put simply, those involved at MS simply don't give a damn about those wishing to use nntp. What exactly is wrong with you people? News flash: You don't need to point your news reader to microsoft.com in order to read and post to these microsoft.public.what-ever newsgroups. Try nntp.aioe.org instead. When microsoft removes windowsme and win98 newsgroups from their server, those groups will still be active and available on the rest of the world's usenet servers. And you people will be left in the dark. |
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YO JJ.....haven't seen you for a long time, and I was giggling over this
FOOL daring to tell Mike he didn't know what he was talking about........ROFL!! Mike........you were actually more polite than I would have been........I deleted that post in the interests of hanging on to a shred of ladylike behaviour, lol. JJ......With any kind of luck, heading to PEI this summer, but have to wait a bit for some medical tests, etc. However, we will probably fly into Charlottetown and not be down your way. Cheers.....Heather "John John - MVP" wrote in message ... Ha! ha! ...go play with his dolls! Priceless! You haven't lost your edge Mike, give them trolls more of those well deserved gems! John Mike M wrote: You really are completely clueless aren't you? Posting to the MS nntp servers is necessary for two reasons: a) To verify that the MS servers are incorrectly filtering valid posts and to get that fixed if possible, b) To ensure that those who use the MS servers are able to read all messages posted to this NG. May I suggest you go back to playing with your dolls and in future only post here if and when you have something useful to contribute. MM Totally Clueless 98 Guy wrote: Mike M wrote: Put simply, those involved at MS simply don't give a damn about those wishing to use nntp. What exactly is wrong with you people? News flash: You don't need to point your news reader to microsoft.com in order to read and post to these microsoft.public.what-ever newsgroups. Try nntp.aioe.org instead. When microsoft removes windowsme and win98 newsgroups from their server, those groups will still be active and available on the rest of the world's usenet servers. And you people will be left in the dark. |
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John John - MVP wrote:
Ha! ha! ...go play with his dolls! Priceless! You haven't lost your edge Mike, give them trolls more of those well deserved gems! My first reply was deleted from the MS servers but did propagate to UseNet. I've reported it below and double spaced the offensive word that caused it to be deleted. Thanks JJ, It's very rare for me to feel the need to Plonk someone and actually do it but on this o c c a s i o n I have done so with some pleasure. :-) BTW I've now determined two or three very simple and innocuous English language character strings that when posted to the MS nntp servers result in the post being deleted. Others such strings obviously exist but these are three strings that can and do appear in normal polite text. -- Mike |
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