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  #21  
Old August 13th 08, 04:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Default Mike, Joan, Web and SS...

as to whether 'msnews. blah blah' and 'news. blah blah' are the
same,, well, i will take your word for that;;


Why question what I posted when it is so very simple to prove this for
yourself? Use PING, TRACERT or other favourite tool and you will find
that both msnews.microsoft.com and news.microsoft.com resolve to the same
IP address. Currently both resolve here to 207.46.248.16 but this can
vary as MS used to use two if not 3 IPs for their news server but that may
have now changed.

Please Note:
This message was sent using the address msnews.microsoft.com for the
Microsoft news server.

if both
addresses are the same, then why can i see on one, yet not
another..../? hmmmm


Because, in some way or other your PC is screwed. I've made various
suggestions as to what may be causing this.
--
Mike Maltby



jeanette wrote:

news.microsoft.com is the same server as msnews.microsoft.com

I would therefore simply switch to using news.microsoft.com rather
than msnews.microsoft.com. Same newsgroups, same posts, even yours!
g

-----------------------------------
acknowledged........g

-----------------------------------


I'm sorry but I feel that you _have_ to have a rule somewhere that is
hiding your posts when posted to msnews.microsoft.com, especially so
since you say your posts to news.microsoft.com are showing. I
previously mentioned the possibility of your having blocked yourself
(blocked sender), or a newsgroup message rule, however there is also
the possibility of your having a customised view that is hiding your
messages but that's more unlikely since most users use the same view
regardless of the server they are using.
--
Mike Maltby



no mike,,,,, still none of your above.

but,,, something a tad odder has happened;;; when i said earlier
that i test posted to 'news.microsoft.com', and my post appeared
instantly, it was true,,,, but since then, i have realised that
other posts to same server/diff groups, have also not shown up.

as to whether 'msnews. blah blah' and 'news. blah blah' are the
same,, well, i will take your word for that;; but still cant
figure out why something like would or could or is happening. if both
addresses are the same, then why can i see on one, yet not
another..../? hmmmm

J


  #22  
Old August 13th 08, 04:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Default Mike, Joan, Web and SS...

So, two replies, virtually identical, one posted to the
microsoft.public.windowsme.general newsgroup on the news.microsoft.com
newserver and the other to the same newsgroup but on the
msnews.microsoft.com news server and, lo and behold, both messages appear
on both servers.

From the headers, the posting paths are identical
news.microsoft.com
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:16:46 +0100
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl

msnews.microsoft.com
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:20:55 +0100
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl

Proving, to me at least, that the two news servers addresses are in fact
the same server.

Jeanette,
Your problem has to be local to your PC and I feel is probably hiding
somewhere in your registry in the
HKCU\Identities\{ big ugly number }\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0
key, most likely somewhere in the Rules\News sub-key.
--
Mike Maltby



jeanette wrote:

news.microsoft.com is the same server as msnews.microsoft.com


  #23  
Old August 13th 08, 06:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Default Mike, Joan, Web and SS...

Arturo wrote :-

Mike's 'groan' barely scratches the surface ..
... to call
it 'awful' would be high praise indeed!


Such an accolade - I feel very humbled.

My greatest talent is that not only can I make a worst fist of things than
most, I can do it far cheaper!! Why pay huge salaries to the politicians
and the barons of industry? The going-rate? Just unnecessary and I'd throw
in a 37.5 hr. week with no golden goodbye clause at no extra cost.

What a bargain!

However the spectre of a big top in Mudchester's Piccadilly Circus can only
be a sight to behold.

Mart



"Arturo Seis" wrote in message
...
Mart,

Mike's 'groan' barely scratches the surface. I have a couple of
photographs
of Piccadilly Circus that made me wince when I thought of your quip. I
shall
never be able to look at them in quite the same way again!

Now, if you'd been taking the name of the Mudchester Piccadilly in vain,
that would be a different matter. But please don't misunderstand me,




Arturo


Mart wrote:
D**n - you beat me to Lilly's "Circus" link, HL. I was going to use
that one later g

But maybe the real problem with Elayne's 100ml jam jars is simply
that they have big tops.

Mart


"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
I bet it is a 'Pickle Dilly Circus' at your house, Figgs.
Heirloom, old and pun intended

"Heather" wrote in message
...
ROFL!! You guys are nuts!! Got all the stuff and unfortunately
can't send you a jar of them. Poor Elayne can't even take them on
the plane.....over 100 mls or whatever that metric thing is. (hate
metric....my recipe is in Imperial)

Kissies from Pickle Lilly.......

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Positively relishing the thought of Heather's response.

OK.. OK

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart wrote:

Heather wrote :-

Cheers from the Pickle Lady......

Ah! - In that case, I guess you must really be Pickle Lilly

GROAN!

Mike





  #24  
Old August 14th 08, 11:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
jeanette
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Default Mike, Joan, Web and SS...


Proving, to me at least, that the two news servers addresses are in fact
the same server.

Jeanette,
Your problem has to be local to your PC and I feel is probably hiding
somewhere in your registry in the
HKCU\Identities\{ big ugly number }\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0
key, most likely somewhere in the Rules\News sub-key.
--
Mike Maltby




huuuuuuuuuuuge siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh,,, in that case, i have no answers at all.
the last time i posted here, all was fine, this time, its all kaput.
i am not a 'registry' person and wouldnt even know what to look for.
thanks for your time mike

J

oh,, one thing tho'.. why do you feel my problem has anything to do o/e 5? as mentioned above
registry.


  #25  
Old August 14th 08, 01:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Default Mike, Joan, Web and SS...

oh,, one thing tho'.. why do you feel my problem has anything to
do o/e 5? as mentioned above registry.


Jeanette,

I don't. vbg You are however posting using Outlook Express and the
registry key(s) I mentioned are where the rules are located be it OE5,
OE5,5 or OE6 that you are using.

From the headers of your post
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
which tells me that you are using Outlook Express 6, not fully patched
however as the latest version for use with Win Me would show
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478.

6.00.2800.1106 is the version that is part of IE6 SP1 (released late 2002)
but without the subsequent Cumulative Security patches for OE, the last of
which was released in April 2004 [KB837009, MS04-013: Cumulative Security
Update for Outlook Express] which takes OE to 6.00.2800.1409. To go to
6.00.2800.1478 would mean you then installing the later Cumulative Update
for Outlook Express 6 SP1 [KB887797] that was released in December 2004.

Incidentally I am NOT saying that installing the missing patches would
solve the problem you are seeing. Likewise I'm not suggesting you dive in
to the registry. Unfortunately I'm at a loss as to what to suggest to
help you as we seem to have explored all avenues.
--
Mike M


jeanette wrote:

huuuuuuuuuuuge siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh,,, in that case,
i have no answers at all. the last time i posted here, all was fine,
this time, its all kaput.
i am not a 'registry' person and wouldnt even know what to look for.
thanks for your time mike

J

oh,, one thing tho'.. why do you feel my problem has anything to
do o/e 5? as mentioned above registry.


  #26  
Old August 14th 08, 03:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heirloom[_3_]
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Default Mike, Joan, Web and SS...

http://www.insideoe.com/tips/ and
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm are a couple of great places to
find the solution to issues with OE. I'm not saying that you will find the
answer to your issue, but, there is access to folks that may. If Mike is
perplexed, that's not good! Hopefully, you can find the answer
soon.....best wishes.
Heirloom, old and Tomtserdam is good


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
oh,, one thing tho'.. why do you feel my problem has anything to
do o/e 5? as mentioned above registry.


Jeanette,

I don't. vbg You are however posting using Outlook Express and the
registry key(s) I mentioned are where the rules are located be it OE5,
OE5,5 or OE6 that you are using.

From the headers of your post
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
which tells me that you are using Outlook Express 6, not fully patched
however as the latest version for use with Win Me would show
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478.

6.00.2800.1106 is the version that is part of IE6 SP1 (released late 2002)
but without the subsequent Cumulative Security patches for OE, the last of
which was released in April 2004 [KB837009, MS04-013: Cumulative Security
Update for Outlook Express] which takes OE to 6.00.2800.1409. To go to
6.00.2800.1478 would mean you then installing the later Cumulative Update
for Outlook Express 6 SP1 [KB887797] that was released in December 2004.

Incidentally I am NOT saying that installing the missing patches would
solve the problem you are seeing. Likewise I'm not suggesting you dive in
to the registry. Unfortunately I'm at a loss as to what to suggest to
help you as we seem to have explored all avenues.
--
Mike M


jeanette wrote:

huuuuuuuuuuuge siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh,,, in that case,
i have no answers at all. the last time i posted here, all was fine,
this time, its all kaput.
i am not a 'registry' person and wouldnt even know what to look for.
thanks for your time mike

J

oh,, one thing tho'.. why do you feel my problem has anything to
do o/e 5? as mentioned above registry.




  #27  
Old August 14th 08, 03:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heirloom[_3_]
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Posts: 235
Default Mike, Joan, Web and SS...

Tomsterdam, Tomsterdam.........rrrrrrrrrr........I hate typos.
Heirloom, old and...shower time

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
http://www.insideoe.com/tips/ and
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm are a couple of great places to
find the solution to issues with OE. I'm not saying that you will find
the answer to your issue, but, there is access to folks that may. If Mike
is perplexed, that's not good! Hopefully, you can find the answer
soon.....best wishes.
Heirloom, old and Tomtserdam is good


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
oh,, one thing tho'.. why do you feel my problem has anything to
do o/e 5? as mentioned above registry.


Jeanette,

I don't. vbg You are however posting using Outlook Express and the
registry key(s) I mentioned are where the rules are located be it OE5,
OE5,5 or OE6 that you are using.

From the headers of your post
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
which tells me that you are using Outlook Express 6, not fully patched
however as the latest version for use with Win Me would show
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478.

6.00.2800.1106 is the version that is part of IE6 SP1 (released late
2002) but without the subsequent Cumulative Security patches for OE, the
last of which was released in April 2004 [KB837009, MS04-013: Cumulative
Security Update for Outlook Express] which takes OE to 6.00.2800.1409.
To go to 6.00.2800.1478 would mean you then installing the later
Cumulative Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1 [KB887797] that was released
in December 2004.

Incidentally I am NOT saying that installing the missing patches would
solve the problem you are seeing. Likewise I'm not suggesting you dive
in to the registry. Unfortunately I'm at a loss as to what to suggest to
help you as we seem to have explored all avenues.
--
Mike M


jeanette wrote:

huuuuuuuuuuuge siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh,,, in that case,
i have no answers at all. the last time i posted here, all was fine,
this time, its all kaput.
i am not a 'registry' person and wouldnt even know what to look for.
thanks for your time mike

J

oh,, one thing tho'.. why do you feel my problem has anything to
do o/e 5? as mentioned above registry.






  #28  
Old August 14th 08, 03:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Posts: 1,190
Default Mike, Joan, Web and SS...

S'cuse buttinski Mike, - just wonder if Jeanette actually did the reset you
(very) briefly mentioned in your first post. (Unless I've missed something
g)

Apologies in advance if you've already tried this Jeanette. If so please
ignore, otherwise :-

In Outlook Express, highlight the winme.general newsgroup (not the thread)
right-click and select Properties, then the Local tab and choose the Reset
option. (which will clear ALL contents of the winme.general newsgroup).
Click to another group and then return to the winme.general group.

Hopefully your missing post will have now returned.

Mart

snip


  #29  
Old August 14th 08, 09:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heather
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ROFL!! JUST FINISHED THEM!!

And I smell like a pickle factory.....but damn, they look good. Got 15
jars for 2 days of labour, but well worth it.

I think the slicing and dicing is the worst part......but I *seconded*
Ron to do the sterilization chore (be quiet, Loon) and that worked a lot
better.

Now back to the more mundane things in life. (G)

Pickled Lilly
"Mart" wrote in message
...
Positively relishing the thought of Heather's response.

OK.. OK

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart wrote:

Heather wrote :-

Cheers from the Pickle Lady......

Ah! - In that case, I guess you must really be Pickle Lilly


GROAN!

Mike





  #30  
Old August 14th 08, 11:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Default Mike, Joan, Web and SS...

Heather wrote :-

.....but I *seconded* Ron to do the sterilization chore
(be quiet, Loon)


Jeepers Lil, what are you using? Meths, Ether? I don't know about HL but
I'm as sure as h**l not going to make any sort of comment. Just be careful
with the scalpel.

Mart



"Heather" wrote in message
...
ROFL!! JUST FINISHED THEM!!

And I smell like a pickle factory.....but damn, they look good. Got 15
jars for 2 days of labour, but well worth it.

I think the slicing and dicing is the worst part......but I *seconded* Ron
to do the sterilization chore (be quiet, Loon) and that worked a lot
better.

Now back to the more mundane things in life. (G)

Pickled Lilly
"Mart" wrote in message
...
Positively relishing the thought of Heather's response.

OK.. OK

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart wrote:

Heather wrote :-

Cheers from the Pickle Lady......

Ah! - In that case, I guess you must really be Pickle Lilly

GROAN!

Mike







 




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