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  #21  
Old February 15th 05, 03:01 AM
ssb
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OKAY................... Things are much better but still need some help.

I exchanged floppy drive and cable and startup disk now works fine. Problem
is that CD runs off Sound Blaster 16 sound card and apparently won't operate
with generic drivers on startup disk. I've downloaded SB16 'update' drivers
(hope that doesn't turn out to be problem). How do I get these loaded w/
startup disk?



"PCR" wrote:

Here is what I have for that...

Enter BIOS Setup & jot down your settings.

You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't know the
key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the key to
press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For this
Compaq, it is F10.

In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to select. (Well,
there may be a legend showing your keys are different.)

While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down the
settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday, they
are cleared, all these settings will have to be input again.

......Quote of Candlin about...............
......keystrokes to get to BIOS Setup....
Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.

Other keystrokes which might work a

AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del

If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
and power up again, as some older systems will default
to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
.......End of Quote............................


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
| Just thought that I'd mention that I tested holding the F10 key during
the
| boot on the three systems we have here and on the laptop and one
desktop,
| there was no effect. The systems booted normally.
|
| On the other desktop (an HP), it started the system recovery. Oops!
When I
| cancelled the system recovery, I did get a message to press the F1 to
run
| setup or F10 to run recovery.
|
| So your theory that holding the F10 key should initiate the BIOS setup
is
| not valid on all systems.
|
| PattyL
|
|
| "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "PattyL" wrote in message
| ...
| Something that I like even better than unplugging the keyboard is
to lay
| your forearm across the keyboard pressing down several keys at
once.
| Generally (if the boot is getting that far), you will get a
Keyboard
| error
| message that tells you what key or key combination to press to
enter
| setup
| or F1 to continue. In this case, you actually can do it. g
|
|
| I would have suggested that, but, as I recommended,
| he held down the F10 key while the PC booted.
|
| That should have at least initiated the BIOS Setup program,
| and, failing that, should have given him a keyboard error.
|
| It did neither, suggesting that your "method" would not have
| worked either, even though there is nothing wrong with it.
|
| PattyL
|
|
| "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "ssb" wrote in message
| ...
| Held the F10 but didn't get anything different, not even the 2
beeps.
|
| Power it off.
|
| Unplug the keyboard.
|
| Power on again.
|
| See if you get the infamous
|
| "Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue" message.
|
| Think about installing a fresh CMOS backup battery.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|



  #22  
Old February 16th 05, 08:12 AM
PCR
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I'm not sure what this thread is about. Do you want to install Sound
Blaster or all of Windows?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"ssb" wrote in message
...
| OKAY................... Things are much better but still need some
help.
|
| I exchanged floppy drive and cable and startup disk now works fine.
Problem
| is that CD runs off Sound Blaster 16 sound card and apparently won't
operate
| with generic drivers on startup disk. I've downloaded SB16 'update'
drivers
| (hope that doesn't turn out to be problem). How do I get these loaded
w/
| startup disk?
|
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| Here is what I have for that...
|
| Enter BIOS Setup & jot down your settings.
|
| You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't know
the
| key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the key to
| press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For this
| Compaq, it is F10.
|
| In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to select.
(Well,
| there may be a legend showing your keys are different.)
|
| While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down the
| settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday,
they
| are cleared, all these settings will have to be input again.
|
| ......Quote of Candlin about...............
| ......keystrokes to get to BIOS Setup....
| Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.
|
| Other keystrokes which might work a
|
| AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
| DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
| Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
| Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
| Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
| IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del
|
| If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
| and power up again, as some older systems will default
| to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
| .......End of Quote............................
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "PattyL" wrote in message
| ...
| | Just thought that I'd mention that I tested holding the F10 key
during
| the
| | boot on the three systems we have here and on the laptop and one
| desktop,
| | there was no effect. The systems booted normally.
| |
| | On the other desktop (an HP), it started the system recovery.
Oops!
| When I
| | cancelled the system recovery, I did get a message to press the F1
to
| run
| | setup or F10 to run recovery.
| |
| | So your theory that holding the F10 key should initiate the BIOS
setup
| is
| | not valid on all systems.
| |
| | PattyL
| |
| |
| | "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | "PattyL" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Something that I like even better than unplugging the keyboard
is
| to lay
| | your forearm across the keyboard pressing down several keys at
| once.
| | Generally (if the boot is getting that far), you will get a
| Keyboard
| | error
| | message that tells you what key or key combination to press to
| enter
| | setup
| | or F1 to continue. In this case, you actually can do it. g
| |
| |
| | I would have suggested that, but, as I recommended,
| | he held down the F10 key while the PC booted.
| |
| | That should have at least initiated the BIOS Setup program,
| | and, failing that, should have given him a keyboard error.
| |
| | It did neither, suggesting that your "method" would not have
| | worked either, even though there is nothing wrong with it.
| |
| | PattyL
| |
| |
| | "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | "ssb" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Held the F10 but didn't get anything different, not even the
2
| beeps.
| |
| | Power it off.
| |
| | Unplug the keyboard.
| |
| | Power on again.
| |
| | See if you get the infamous
| |
| | "Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue" message.
| |
| | Think about installing a fresh CMOS backup battery.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|


  #23  
Old February 16th 05, 03:01 PM
ssb
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Posts: n/a
Default

Trying to install windows.

First problem had been that floppy wouldn't recognize startup disk --
changed out floppy and cable, now get thru startup.

Problem now is that the CD is not operating, so I can't load Windows install
CD. The CD drive is running off a Sound Blaster 16 card. Since it won't run
from the generic drivers startup installs, am assuming I need to load
manufacturer drivers. Have downloaded an 'update' driver file. Need to know
how to get those files loaded w/ startup disk.


"PCR" wrote:

I'm not sure what this thread is about. Do you want to install Sound
Blaster or all of Windows?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"ssb" wrote in message
...
| OKAY................... Things are much better but still need some
help.
|
| I exchanged floppy drive and cable and startup disk now works fine.
Problem
| is that CD runs off Sound Blaster 16 sound card and apparently won't
operate
| with generic drivers on startup disk. I've downloaded SB16 'update'
drivers
| (hope that doesn't turn out to be problem). How do I get these loaded
w/
| startup disk?
|
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| Here is what I have for that...
|
| Enter BIOS Setup & jot down your settings.
|
| You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't know
the
| key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the key to
| press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For this
| Compaq, it is F10.
|
| In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to select.
(Well,
| there may be a legend showing your keys are different.)
|
| While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down the
| settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday,
they
| are cleared, all these settings will have to be input again.
|
| ......Quote of Candlin about...............
| ......keystrokes to get to BIOS Setup....
| Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.
|
| Other keystrokes which might work a
|
| AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
| DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
| Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
| Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
| Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
| IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del
|
| If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
| and power up again, as some older systems will default
| to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
| .......End of Quote............................
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "PattyL" wrote in message
| ...
| | Just thought that I'd mention that I tested holding the F10 key
during
| the
| | boot on the three systems we have here and on the laptop and one
| desktop,
| | there was no effect. The systems booted normally.
| |
| | On the other desktop (an HP), it started the system recovery.
Oops!
| When I
| | cancelled the system recovery, I did get a message to press the F1
to
| run
| | setup or F10 to run recovery.
| |
| | So your theory that holding the F10 key should initiate the BIOS
setup
| is
| | not valid on all systems.
| |
| | PattyL
| |
| |
| | "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | "PattyL" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Something that I like even better than unplugging the keyboard
is
| to lay
| | your forearm across the keyboard pressing down several keys at
| once.
| | Generally (if the boot is getting that far), you will get a
| Keyboard
| | error
| | message that tells you what key or key combination to press to
| enter
| | setup
| | or F1 to continue. In this case, you actually can do it. g
| |
| |
| | I would have suggested that, but, as I recommended,
| | he held down the F10 key while the PC booted.
| |
| | That should have at least initiated the BIOS Setup program,
| | and, failing that, should have given him a keyboard error.
| |
| | It did neither, suggesting that your "method" would not have
| | worked either, even though there is nothing wrong with it.
| |
| | PattyL
| |
| |
| | "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | "ssb" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Held the F10 but didn't get anything different, not even the
2
| beeps.
| |
| | Power it off.
| |
| | Unplug the keyboard.
| |
| | Power on again.
| |
| | See if you get the infamous
| |
| | "Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue" message.
| |
| | Think about installing a fresh CMOS backup battery.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|



  #24  
Old February 16th 05, 07:03 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Posts: n/a
Default

Suggest you start a new thread--"How do I add SB16 CDROM support to
Startup disk?"

I used to know, and I'm sure many others here still do.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"ssb" wrote in message
...
Trying to install windows.

First problem had been that floppy wouldn't recognize startup disk --
changed out floppy and cable, now get thru startup.

Problem now is that the CD is not operating, so I can't load Windows

install
CD. The CD drive is running off a Sound Blaster 16 card. Since it

won't run
from the generic drivers startup installs, am assuming I need to load
manufacturer drivers. Have downloaded an 'update' driver file. Need

to know
how to get those files loaded w/ startup disk.


"PCR" wrote:

I'm not sure what this thread is about. Do you want to install Sound
Blaster or all of Windows?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"ssb" wrote in message
...
| OKAY................... Things are much better but still need some
help.
|
| I exchanged floppy drive and cable and startup disk now works

fine.
Problem
| is that CD runs off Sound Blaster 16 sound card and apparently

won't
operate
| with generic drivers on startup disk. I've downloaded SB16

'update'
drivers
| (hope that doesn't turn out to be problem). How do I get these

loaded
w/
| startup disk?
|
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| Here is what I have for that...
|
| Enter BIOS Setup & jot down your settings.
|
| You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't

know
the
| key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the

key to
| press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For

this
| Compaq, it is F10.
|
| In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to

select.
(Well,
| there may be a legend showing your keys are different.)
|
| While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down

the
| settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday,
they
| are cleared, all these settings will have to be input again.
|
| ......Quote of Candlin about...............
| ......keystrokes to get to BIOS Setup....
| Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.
|
| Other keystrokes which might work a
|
| AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
| DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
| Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
| Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
| Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
| IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del
|
| If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
| and power up again, as some older systems will default
| to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
| .......End of Quote............................
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "PattyL" wrote in message
| ...
| | Just thought that I'd mention that I tested holding the F10

key
during
| the
| | boot on the three systems we have here and on the laptop and

one
| desktop,
| | there was no effect. The systems booted normally.
| |
| | On the other desktop (an HP), it started the system recovery.
Oops!
| When I
| | cancelled the system recovery, I did get a message to press

the F1
to
| run
| | setup or F10 to run recovery.
| |
| | So your theory that holding the F10 key should initiate the

BIOS
setup
| is
| | not valid on all systems.
| |
| | PattyL
| |
| |
| | "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | "PattyL" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Something that I like even better than unplugging the

keyboard
is
| to lay
| | your forearm across the keyboard pressing down several keys

at
| once.
| | Generally (if the boot is getting that far), you will get a
| Keyboard
| | error
| | message that tells you what key or key combination to press

to
| enter
| | setup
| | or F1 to continue. In this case, you actually can do it.

g
| |
| |
| | I would have suggested that, but, as I recommended,
| | he held down the F10 key while the PC booted.
| |
| | That should have at least initiated the BIOS Setup program,
| | and, failing that, should have given him a keyboard error.
| |
| | It did neither, suggesting that your "method" would not have
| | worked either, even though there is nothing wrong with it.
| |
| | PattyL
| |
| |
| | "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | "ssb" wrote in message
| |

...
| | Held the F10 but didn't get anything different, not even

the
2
| beeps.
| |
| | Power it off.
| |
| | Unplug the keyboard.
| |
| | Power on again.
| |
| | See if you get the infamous
| |
| | "Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue" message.
| |
| | Think about installing a fresh CMOS backup battery.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|




  #25  
Old February 16th 05, 08:51 PM
PCR
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Default

I don't know how to do it, either. Start a new thread as Terhune said,
or go scour their site. Good luck. If you have a Config.sys &
Autoexec.bat that as they would look AFTER the install, post them to the
new thread. Someone can say where Sound Blaster's files should go by
looking at that. But I'm surprised the card doesn't provide access on
it's own, through some kind of BIOS extension.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"ssb" wrote in message
...
| Trying to install windows.
|
| First problem had been that floppy wouldn't recognize startup disk --
| changed out floppy and cable, now get thru startup.
|
| Problem now is that the CD is not operating, so I can't load Windows
install
| CD. The CD drive is running off a Sound Blaster 16 card. Since it
won't run
| from the generic drivers startup installs, am assuming I need to load
| manufacturer drivers. Have downloaded an 'update' driver file. Need
to know
| how to get those files loaded w/ startup disk.
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| I'm not sure what this thread is about. Do you want to install Sound
| Blaster or all of Windows?
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "ssb" wrote in message
| ...
| | OKAY................... Things are much better but still need some
| help.
| |
| | I exchanged floppy drive and cable and startup disk now works
fine.
| Problem
| | is that CD runs off Sound Blaster 16 sound card and apparently
won't
| operate
| | with generic drivers on startup disk. I've downloaded SB16
'update'
| drivers
| | (hope that doesn't turn out to be problem). How do I get these
loaded
| w/
| | startup disk?
| |
| |
| |
| | "PCR" wrote:
| |
| | Here is what I have for that...
| |
| | Enter BIOS Setup & jot down your settings.
| |
| | You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't
know
| the
| | key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the
key to
| | press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For
this
| | Compaq, it is F10.
| |
| | In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to
select.
| (Well,
| | there may be a legend showing your keys are different.)
| |
| | While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down
the
| | settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday,
| they
| | are cleared, all these settings will have to be input again.
| |
| | ......Quote of Candlin about...............
| | ......keystrokes to get to BIOS Setup....
| | Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.
| |
| | Other keystrokes which might work a
| |
| | AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
| | DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
| | Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
| | Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
| | Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
| | IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del
| |
| | If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
| | and power up again, as some older systems will default
| | to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
| | .......End of Quote............................
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |

| | "PattyL" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Just thought that I'd mention that I tested holding the F10
key
| during
| | the
| | | boot on the three systems we have here and on the laptop and
one
| | desktop,
| | | there was no effect. The systems booted normally.
| | |
| | | On the other desktop (an HP), it started the system recovery.
| Oops!
| | When I
| | | cancelled the system recovery, I did get a message to press
the F1
| to
| | run
| | | setup or F10 to run recovery.
| | |
| | | So your theory that holding the F10 key should initiate the
BIOS
| setup
| | is
| | | not valid on all systems.
| | |
| | | PattyL
| | |
| | |
| | | "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | |
| | | "PattyL" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | Something that I like even better than unplugging the
keyboard
| is
| | to lay
| | | your forearm across the keyboard pressing down several keys
at
| | once.
| | | Generally (if the boot is getting that far), you will get a
| | Keyboard
| | | error
| | | message that tells you what key or key combination to press
to
| | enter
| | | setup
| | | or F1 to continue. In this case, you actually can do it.
g
| | |
| | |
| | | I would have suggested that, but, as I recommended,
| | | he held down the F10 key while the PC booted.
| | |
| | | That should have at least initiated the BIOS Setup program,
| | | and, failing that, should have given him a keyboard error.
| | |
| | | It did neither, suggesting that your "method" would not have
| | | worked either, even though there is nothing wrong with it.
| | |
| | | PattyL
| | |
| | |
| | | "Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | |
| | | "ssb" wrote in message
| | |
...
| | | Held the F10 but didn't get anything different, not even
the
| 2
| | beeps.
| | |
| | | Power it off.
| | |
| | | Unplug the keyboard.
| | |
| | | Power on again.
| | |
| | | See if you get the infamous
| | |
| | | "Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue" message.
| | |
| | | Think about installing a fresh CMOS backup battery.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|


  #26  
Old February 17th 05, 03:10 PM
PattyL
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Actually, the place that I jumped in was after you suggested the F10 key and
ssb replied that he tried it and didn't get anything different.


"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
Just thought that I'd mention that I tested holding the F10 key during
the
boot on the three systems we have here and on the laptop and one desktop,
there was no effect. The systems booted normally.

On the other desktop (an HP), it started the system recovery. Oops!
When

I
cancelled the system recovery, I did get a message to press the F1 to run
setup or F10 to run recovery.

So your theory that holding the F10 key should initiate the BIOS setup is
not valid on all systems.


The OP identified his computer as an Acer brand.
My research and response was predicated on that fact.

If you jumped into the middle of a thread and read a post
which contained advice to FORMAT C:, would you do it?




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Old February 17th 05, 05:32 PM
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Actually, the place that I jumped in was after you suggested the F10 key

and
ssb replied that he tried it and didn't get anything different.

I don't see how the above in any way relates to
the context of my post, which was that F10 normally initiates
the BIOS Setup program on an Acer computer.

I will reiterate that I did not claim what you implied
that I claimed, that my "theory" - holding the F10 key
should initiate the BIOS setup - is valid on all systems.

First, it isn't a theory, and second, I did not state
that it was valid in all systems.

I was supplying directed responses to a specific scenario,
related to an Acer computer.

I'm not sure what your argument is.


"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...

"PattyL" wrote in message
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Just thought that I'd mention that I tested holding the F10 key during
the
boot on the three systems we have here and on the laptop and one

desktop,
there was no effect. The systems booted normally.

On the other desktop (an HP), it started the system recovery. Oops!
When

I
cancelled the system recovery, I did get a message to press the F1 to

run
setup or F10 to run recovery.

So your theory that holding the F10 key should initiate the BIOS setup

is
not valid on all systems.


The OP identified his computer as an Acer brand.
My research and response was predicated on that fact.

If you jumped into the middle of a thread and read a post
which contained advice to FORMAT C:, would you do it?






 




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