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Old February 1st 05, 07:16 PM
webster72n
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Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.


  #2  
Old February 2nd 05, 01:34 AM
Heather
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Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using

it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.




  #3  
Old February 2nd 05, 02:32 AM
Shane
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Hey Figgs! (and Harry),

While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's
period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily - update
defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again. I'm
seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't
searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get
*program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program
itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly.

I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is
enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough
without common sense!).

I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions
when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't consider
Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate
Personal Firewalls.

Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the
previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a
clean-installed Win 9x without problems.

I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago
because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall
doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK.

The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from early
in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally)
unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of
course, but an annoyance.

However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or
bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend
Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf.


Shane

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went
to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice.
One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I
can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If
you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and
now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using

it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.






  #4  
Old February 2nd 05, 02:43 AM
webster72n
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If it didn't, it sure gave me a better insight, Heather.
For all I can tell, AVG updates daily right now, at least for the last three
to four days or so. It really does a nice job.
The thing that makes it so hard for me to decide is, that I paid 40 $'s for
EZArmor and hate to see it wasted.
Is it really so important not to have a second Antivirus besides EZ, or
would it actually tolerate it?
Personally I don't see why not.
I know very well, the choice is mine, in the end.

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went

to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice.

One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I

can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If

you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion

on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and

now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using

it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.






  #5  
Old February 2nd 05, 03:17 AM
Heather
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Hi Harry.....

Shane's post added a lot of sense as well. The most important thing to do
is practice *safe hex*......which really means common sense. No opening
attachments from Aunt Maude without checking first, staying off unsafe
websites, keeping all patches up to date on IE, and so on. I have a lot of
things that I use over and above an AV and a firewall that make OE/IE safer.

NOW....DO NOT put a second on-access scanner on your computer!! I have a
second one on here, but it is the *manual* F-Prot for DOS.....it is free and
I have used it longer than EZ Trust. It is my backup AV. I run it every
month or two. It sometimes catches stuff that other AV's do not. But it
does NOT run in the background....along with EZ Trust. I have to activate
it myself to do a scan. I want you to understand the difference between
manual and on-access scanners.

Whew....I know I am being very firm!! But it is also very important that
you do not do what you are thinking!! The analogy I like to use
is.....picture two basketball players going for a jump ball......they crash
into each other and guess what.....they miss the ball!! That is what will
happen with two on access scanners.....they will both try to grab a virus
and quite probably miss it.

Comprendez? And I commend you for coming here FIRST and asking whether you
should do something or not (sort of, grin)......I just saw where you were
heading.

Never, ever be afraid to ask about anything.....here is where you get your
answers.

Cheers....Heather (and I don't really bite......just growl a bit, grin)

"webster72n" wrote in message
...

If it didn't, it sure gave me a better insight, Heather.
For all I can tell, AVG updates daily right now, at least for the last

three
to four days or so. It really does a nice job.
The thing that makes it so hard for me to decide is, that I paid 40 $'s

for
EZArmor and hate to see it wasted.
Is it really so important not to have a second Antivirus besides EZ, or
would it actually tolerate it?
Personally I don't see why not.
I know very well, the choice is mine, in the end.

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and

went
to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice.

One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG

does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I

can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and

an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If

you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion

on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and

now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate

Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before

using
it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.








  #6  
Old February 2nd 05, 06:05 AM
webster72n
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Thank both, you Heather and Shane.
I found out about Sygate's interference with Scandisk.
I may eventually go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall.
In the meantime AVG just caught a trojan for me today.
It was hiding on one of my Zip Disks. Was I glad.
What a 'good thing' to be here.

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry.....

Shane's post added a lot of sense as well. The most important thing to do
is practice *safe hex*......which really means common sense. No opening
attachments from Aunt Maude without checking first, staying off unsafe
websites, keeping all patches up to date on IE, and so on. I have a lot

of
things that I use over and above an AV and a firewall that make OE/IE

safer.

NOW....DO NOT put a second on-access scanner on your computer!! I have a
second one on here, but it is the *manual* F-Prot for DOS.....it is free

and
I have used it longer than EZ Trust. It is my backup AV. I run it every
month or two. It sometimes catches stuff that other AV's do not. But it
does NOT run in the background....along with EZ Trust. I have to activate
it myself to do a scan. I want you to understand the difference between
manual and on-access scanners.

Whew....I know I am being very firm!! But it is also very important that
you do not do what you are thinking!! The analogy I like to use
is.....picture two basketball players going for a jump ball......they

crash
into each other and guess what.....they miss the ball!! That is what will
happen with two on access scanners.....they will both try to grab a virus
and quite probably miss it.

Comprendez? And I commend you for coming here FIRST and asking whether

you
should do something or not (sort of, grin)......I just saw where you were
heading.

Never, ever be afraid to ask about anything.....here is where you get your
answers.

Cheers....Heather (and I don't really bite......just growl a bit, grin)

"webster72n" wrote in message
...

If it didn't, it sure gave me a better insight, Heather.
For all I can tell, AVG updates daily right now, at least for the last

three
to four days or so. It really does a nice job.
The thing that makes it so hard for me to decide is, that I paid 40 $'s

for
EZArmor and hate to see it wasted.
Is it really so important not to have a second Antivirus besides EZ, or
would it actually tolerate it?
Personally I don't see why not.
I know very well, the choice is mine, in the end.

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and

went
to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your

choice.
One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG

does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I

can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough

and
an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them.

If
you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your

opinion
on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost

and
now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate

Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before

using
it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.










  #7  
Old February 2nd 05, 06:07 AM
webster72n
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Good to see you're back, Shane.
Thank you for your far reaching advice.

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Hey Figgs! (and Harry),

While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's
period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily -

update
defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again.

I'm
seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't
searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get
*program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program
itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly.

I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is
enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough
without common sense!).

I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions
when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't

consider
Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate
Personal Firewalls.

Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the
previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a
clean-installed Win 9x without problems.

I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago
because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall
doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK.

The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from

early
in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally)
unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of
course, but an annoyance.

However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or
bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend
Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf.


Shane

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and

went
to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice.
One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG

does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I
can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and

an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If
you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion

on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and
now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate

Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before

using
it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.








  #8  
Old February 2nd 05, 02:47 PM
Jack E Martinelli
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Here is where you can find out what is really happening with AV tools:

The Virus Bulletin
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/

ICSA Labs - TrueSecure Corp.
http://www.icsalabs.com/html/communi...products.shtml

AV-Test
http://www.av-test.org/


Several of my knowledgeable MVP colleagues use, and recommend, AVG, but I
would never do so, despite its low cost (it's free). It has scored
relatively poorly, IMO, for a long time.
Since you already own eTrust Armor, I urge you to migrate to its AV tool,
no mattter which personal firewall you choose.
The eTrust AV has a small footprint, is fast, updates easily and quickly and
often, and is highly rated.
The CA eTrust version of the firewall is a rebranded version of the free
Zone Alarm, so you have a huge user community on whom to depend, if
necessary.

If costs were no object, I would probably choose NOD32 as the AV tool:
http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm

based on the ratings from the above organizations, and from one of my MVP
colleagues, who is very happy with it.
I have no personal experience with it, nor any other reports about it from
friends.

HTH,
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using

it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.




  #9  
Old February 2nd 05, 05:20 PM
webster72n
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That is extremely good advice, Jack.
I shall make use of it accordingly.
Thank you very much.

Harry.


"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
Here is where you can find out what is really happening with AV tools:

The Virus Bulletin
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/

ICSA Labs - TrueSecure Corp.
http://www.icsalabs.com/html/communi...products.shtml

AV-Test
http://www.av-test.org/


Several of my knowledgeable MVP colleagues use, and recommend, AVG, but I
would never do so, despite its low cost (it's free). It has scored
relatively poorly, IMO, for a long time.
Since you already own eTrust Armor, I urge you to migrate to its AV tool,
no mattter which personal firewall you choose.
The eTrust AV has a small footprint, is fast, updates easily and quickly

and
often, and is highly rated.
The CA eTrust version of the firewall is a rebranded version of the free
Zone Alarm, so you have a huge user community on whom to depend, if
necessary.

If costs were no object, I would probably choose NOD32 as the AV tool:
http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm

based on the ratings from the above organizations, and from one of my MVP
colleagues, who is very happy with it.
I have no personal experience with it, nor any other reports about it from
friends.

HTH,
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion

on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and

now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using

it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.






  #10  
Old February 2nd 05, 08:16 PM
webster72n
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Heather:

I downloaded, installed and ran F-Prot successfully, with no malware or
viruses found.
What a nice little utility/program..
Thanks for the offering.

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry.....

Shane's post added a lot of sense as well. The most important thing to do
is practice *safe hex*......which really means common sense. No opening
attachments from Aunt Maude without checking first, staying off unsafe
websites, keeping all patches up to date on IE, and so on. I have a lot

of
things that I use over and above an AV and a firewall that make OE/IE

safer.

NOW....DO NOT put a second on-access scanner on your computer!! I have a
second one on here, but it is the *manual* F-Prot for DOS.....it is free

and
I have used it longer than EZ Trust. It is my backup AV. I run it every
month or two. It sometimes catches stuff that other AV's do not. But it
does NOT run in the background....along with EZ Trust. I have to activate
it myself to do a scan. I want you to understand the difference between
manual and on-access scanners.

Whew....I know I am being very firm!! But it is also very important that
you do not do what you are thinking!! The analogy I like to use
is.....picture two basketball players going for a jump ball......they

crash
into each other and guess what.....they miss the ball!! That is what will
happen with two on access scanners.....they will both try to grab a virus
and quite probably miss it.

Comprendez? And I commend you for coming here FIRST and asking whether

you
should do something or not (sort of, grin)......I just saw where you were
heading.

Never, ever be afraid to ask about anything.....here is where you get your
answers.

Cheers....Heather (and I don't really bite......just growl a bit, grin)

"webster72n" wrote in message
...

If it didn't, it sure gave me a better insight, Heather.
For all I can tell, AVG updates daily right now, at least for the last

three
to four days or so. It really does a nice job.
The thing that makes it so hard for me to decide is, that I paid 40 $'s

for
EZArmor and hate to see it wasted.
Is it really so important not to have a second Antivirus besides EZ, or
would it actually tolerate it?
Personally I don't see why not.
I know very well, the choice is mine, in the end.

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Harry......

Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE
version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and

went
to
that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!!

I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your

choice.
One
thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG

does
not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I

can't
remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough

and
an
ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used.

So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them.

If
you
prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust.

Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G).

Heather....

"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Hello Heather:

Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your

opinion
on
whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost

and
now
retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate

Firewall,
which were installed for immediate protection.
EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before

using
it.
I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot.
What's the verdict?

Harry, old and would prefer it both ways.










 




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