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  #11  
Old January 22nd 08, 10:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
rod
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Default OS HDD to ext HDD.


"Teflon"
Just did this file transfer bit. Since both systems support USB 2.0,
I used an 8GB flash drive to do the transfer. Got a generic USB Mass
Storage driver for SE and it had no problems. XP was an automatic.

Not bad advice for small system,
I found removing the drive and hooking as external HDD very fast

I rushed out and bought a networking USB cable (easy transfer cable)
but shot myself in the foot
$80 wasted as it does not works with 98SE

I'll post back on the reults of the rj11 cable.



  #12  
Old January 23rd 08, 06:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Watt
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Default OS HDD to ext HDD.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:39:15 +0900, "rod"
wrote:


"Teflon"
Just did this file transfer bit. Since both systems support USB 2.0,
I used an 8GB flash drive to do the transfer. Got a generic USB Mass
Storage driver for SE and it had no problems. XP was an automatic.

Not bad advice for small system,
I found removing the drive and hooking as external HDD very fast

I rushed out and bought a networking USB cable (easy transfer cable)
but shot myself in the foot
$80 wasted as it does not works with 98SE

I'll post back on the reults of the rj11 cable.


Rod,

I use a USB 80GB external HDD. I formatted it FAT32 with two 40 GB
partitions. It works with my 1 yr old XP Pro Notebook and my 6 yr
old PIII PC running 98SE just by plugging it in. I can backup one
machine to C: and the other to D:. I can also just put some files
and programs from either and copy them over to the other. They have
smaller drives too, I forget the price of the 80GB but I was
surprised how cheap it was at Staples. I can also take it anywhere
and use it on other machines. It works with USB 1.1 and USB 2.0.
Check the specs on the unit before you consider buying it. Mine is a
Firelite Smartdisk.

Worth looking into.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/



All I do is plug them in and both machines see it as another drive.
  #13  
Old January 23rd 08, 09:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
rod
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"Bill Watt"

Rod,
I use a USB 80GB external HDD. I formatted it FAT32 with two 40 GB
partitions. It works with my 1 yr old XP Pro Notebook and my 6 yr
old PIII PC running 98SE just by plugging it in. I can backup one
machine to C: and the other to D:. I can also just put some files
and programs from either and copy them over to the other. They have
smaller drives too, I forget the price of the 80GB but I was
surprised how cheap it was at Staples. I can also take it anywhere
and use it on other machines. It works with USB 1.1 and USB 2.0.
Check the specs on the unit before you consider buying it. Mine is a
Firelite Smartdisk.
Worth looking into.
Regards,
Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
All I do is plug them in and both machines see it as another drive.


Hiya Bill,
Actually thats exactly what I do, no different, and find it super.
My problem I was faced with was a large amount of files
on my Win98se (both on the C drive and second internal drive the D drive)
Following your (and mine) route, win 98se only transfers at USB1.1
So say 80Gb would have been painfully slow. (probably 6 hours)

I have about 6 or so external drives and I hot swap them all the time.

I didn't ever think I'd say this, but once 98 is emptied
I'll archive the machine, if only for the fact working
with USB's are such a pain ( re boot etc)











  #14  
Old January 23rd 08, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
AlmostBob
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A cheapo router might be the easiest thing, then you just use the win98 box
as a storage location, you dont have to move the images

--
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spybot http://www.safer-networking.org
AVG free antivirus http://free.grisoft.com/
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_
"rod" wrote in message
...

"Bill Watt"

Rod,
I use a USB 80GB external HDD. I formatted it FAT32 with two 40 GB
partitions. It works with my 1 yr old XP Pro Notebook and my 6 yr
old PIII PC running 98SE just by plugging it in. I can backup one
machine to C: and the other to D:. I can also just put some files
and programs from either and copy them over to the other. They have
smaller drives too, I forget the price of the 80GB but I was
surprised how cheap it was at Staples. I can also take it anywhere
and use it on other machines. It works with USB 1.1 and USB 2.0.
Check the specs on the unit before you consider buying it. Mine is a
Firelite Smartdisk.
Worth looking into.
Regards,
Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
All I do is plug them in and both machines see it as another drive.


Hiya Bill,
Actually thats exactly what I do, no different, and find it super.
My problem I was faced with was a large amount of files
on my Win98se (both on the C drive and second internal drive the D drive)
Following your (and mine) route, win 98se only transfers at USB1.1
So say 80Gb would have been painfully slow. (probably 6 hours)

I have about 6 or so external drives and I hot swap them all the time.

I didn't ever think I'd say this, but once 98 is emptied
I'll archive the machine, if only for the fact working
with USB's are such a pain ( re boot etc)













  #15  
Old January 24th 08, 05:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
buffalo rider
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Default OS HDD to ext HDD.

Hi rod,

Perhaps you have already solved your problem and got the data transferred.
If not, here is my two cents. I have transferred data many times between two
computers, even as much as 10-20GB of data from an old (10 years old) system
to a new system. I do it through the Ethernet connections. It is very fast,
it is easy to do. In one case I transferred data from a 1994 computer (60mHz
Pentium) running Win98 to a new 2006 system running WinXP.

In short here is what you need:
a. both computers must have an Ethernet card.
-- for the 1994 computer, I found one at Fry's for $2. (Yes, two
dollars)
typically they are about $10. Used parts stores will have them.
-- most computers today come with one.
b. Go to Control Panel-Network Connections
-- while there, go to the 'identity' tab and make sure both computers
have the same workgroup, like ROD_GROUP
-- turn on 'file-sharing' for at least one of the two computers,
preferably
for both. Then one computer can 'see' a folder on the other and
put
things in it through the Ethernet connection.
-- you can used the computers 'shared folder' which is automatically
set up
for sharing. Or you can create a new folder (like 'Transferred
files') and
then right click on teh folder, click on teh shared folder option.
c. Get a 'crossover' Ethernet cable. (A regular Ethernet cable will not
work).
d. Connect the two computers to each other with the crossover cable.
e. You should then, through either "network Neighborhood" or via the
Windows Explorer network options, see the other computer through
the WorkGroup (Rod_Group) and see the file(s) that are designated
as share files.

Then, just cut and paste ... walk away do your regular work, come back when
the file transfer is done.

- Scott.

"rod" wrote:

I have a Win98se box,
can I remove the HDD,
and hook it up as an external HDD on my XP?
I need to employ USB2 to move 300,000
images over to my XP.
Any warnings or "heads up" ?
Thanks very much.





  #16  
Old January 25th 08, 12:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
rod
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Default OS HDD to ext HDD.

Cheers BR
well only the data from my 2nd internal HDD
not the OS drive as yet, been busy marking son's homework.

Thanks for the info, I combine all the posts and use them for reference
probably next week.
Frankly, I will probably just hoik out the drive and place in external case,
because I don't think the situation will arise again transferring from W98
It was a good OS but XP has won me over.

The fastest transfer I have seen, I employed a techie a few years ago
to clone my 98se as a backup on a second computer.
He used IIRC Norton Ghost and copied my entire computer
over in around 20 minutes, I was amazed.


"buffalo rider" wrote in message
...
Hi rod,

Perhaps you have already solved your problem and got the data transferred.
If not, here is my two cents. I have transferred data many times between
two
computers, even as much as 10-20GB of data from an old (10 years old)
system
to a new system. I do it through the Ethernet connections. It is very
fast,
it is easy to do. In one case I transferred data from a 1994 computer
(60mHz
Pentium) running Win98 to a new 2006 system running WinXP.

In short here is what you need:
a. both computers must have an Ethernet card.
-- for the 1994 computer, I found one at Fry's for $2. (Yes, two
dollars)
typically they are about $10. Used parts stores will have them.
-- most computers today come with one.
b. Go to Control Panel-Network Connections
-- while there, go to the 'identity' tab and make sure both computers
have the same workgroup, like ROD_GROUP
-- turn on 'file-sharing' for at least one of the two computers,
preferably
for both. Then one computer can 'see' a folder on the other and
put
things in it through the Ethernet connection.
-- you can used the computers 'shared folder' which is automatically
set up
for sharing. Or you can create a new folder (like 'Transferred
files') and
then right click on teh folder, click on teh shared folder
option.
c. Get a 'crossover' Ethernet cable. (A regular Ethernet cable will
not
work).
d. Connect the two computers to each other with the crossover cable.
e. You should then, through either "network Neighborhood" or via the
Windows Explorer network options, see the other computer through
the WorkGroup (Rod_Group) and see the file(s) that are designated
as share files.

Then, just cut and paste ... walk away do your regular work, come back
when
the file transfer is done.

- Scott.

"rod" wrote:

I have a Win98se box,
can I remove the HDD,
and hook it up as an external HDD on my XP?
I need to employ USB2 to move 300,000
images over to my XP.
Any warnings or "heads up" ?
Thanks very much.







  #17  
Old January 25th 08, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
buffalo rider
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Posts: 28
Default OS HDD to ext HDD.

there are a variety of ways to transfer the data ... some advantages of
learning the Ethernet way of doing it, are that Ethernet will be around for a
long time to come, learning how to do it can help one in setting up
high-speed internet, it is needed for setting up a network printer (if one
wants one printer for the house, not one for every computer), for setting up
a router so all computers in the house can talk to the Internet (i.e., one
only needs one Internet account), etc. ... not to mention having the skill to
transfer data from computer-to-compuer at some date in the future. So the
investment in learning how to move data around via Ethernet (in a home
environment) has some long-term advantages.

- Scott.

"rod" wrote:

Cheers BR
well only the data from my 2nd internal HDD
not the OS drive as yet, been busy marking son's homework.

Thanks for the info, I combine all the posts and use them for reference
probably next week.
Frankly, I will probably just hoik out the drive and place in external case,
because I don't think the situation will arise again transferring from W98
It was a good OS but XP has won me over.

The fastest transfer I have seen, I employed a techie a few years ago
to clone my 98se as a backup on a second computer.
He used IIRC Norton Ghost and copied my entire computer
over in around 20 minutes, I was amazed.


"buffalo rider" wrote in message
...
Hi rod,

Perhaps you have already solved your problem and got the data transferred.
If not, here is my two cents. I have transferred data many times between
two
computers, even as much as 10-20GB of data from an old (10 years old)
system
to a new system. I do it through the Ethernet connections. It is very
fast,
it is easy to do. In one case I transferred data from a 1994 computer
(60mHz
Pentium) running Win98 to a new 2006 system running WinXP.

In short here is what you need:
a. both computers must have an Ethernet card.
-- for the 1994 computer, I found one at Fry's for $2. (Yes, two
dollars)
typically they are about $10. Used parts stores will have them.
-- most computers today come with one.
b. Go to Control Panel-Network Connections
-- while there, go to the 'identity' tab and make sure both computers
have the same workgroup, like ROD_GROUP
-- turn on 'file-sharing' for at least one of the two computers,
preferably
for both. Then one computer can 'see' a folder on the other and
put
things in it through the Ethernet connection.
-- you can used the computers 'shared folder' which is automatically
set up
for sharing. Or you can create a new folder (like 'Transferred
files') and
then right click on teh folder, click on teh shared folder
option.
c. Get a 'crossover' Ethernet cable. (A regular Ethernet cable will
not
work).
d. Connect the two computers to each other with the crossover cable.
e. You should then, through either "network Neighborhood" or via the
Windows Explorer network options, see the other computer through
the WorkGroup (Rod_Group) and see the file(s) that are designated
as share files.

Then, just cut and paste ... walk away do your regular work, come back
when
the file transfer is done.

- Scott.

"rod" wrote:

I have a Win98se box,
can I remove the HDD,
and hook it up as an external HDD on my XP?
I need to employ USB2 to move 300,000
images over to my XP.
Any warnings or "heads up" ?
Thanks very much.








  #18  
Old January 25th 08, 03:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
rod
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Default OS HDD to ext HDD.


Gotcha Scott,
this week will be the first to hook up 2 XP via wireless
prior, between 98se and XP, we had lots of probs.
Thanks very much for the advice.
R



"buffalo rider" wrote in message
...
there are a variety of ways to transfer the data ... some advantages of
learning the Ethernet way of doing it, are that Ethernet will be around
for a
long time to come, learning how to do it can help one in setting up
high-speed internet, it is needed for setting up a network printer (if one
wants one printer for the house, not one for every computer), for setting
up
a router so all computers in the house can talk to the Internet (i.e., one
only needs one Internet account), etc. ... not to mention having the skill
to
transfer data from computer-to-compuer at some date in the future. So the
investment in learning how to move data around via Ethernet (in a home
environment) has some long-term advantages.

- Scott.

"rod" wrote:

Cheers BR
well only the data from my 2nd internal HDD
not the OS drive as yet, been busy marking son's homework.

Thanks for the info, I combine all the posts and use them for reference
probably next week.
Frankly, I will probably just hoik out the drive and place in external
case,
because I don't think the situation will arise again transferring from
W98
It was a good OS but XP has won me over.

The fastest transfer I have seen, I employed a techie a few years ago
to clone my 98se as a backup on a second computer.
He used IIRC Norton Ghost and copied my entire computer
over in around 20 minutes, I was amazed.


"buffalo rider" wrote in message
...
Hi rod,

Perhaps you have already solved your problem and got the data
transferred.
If not, here is my two cents. I have transferred data many times
between
two
computers, even as much as 10-20GB of data from an old (10 years old)
system
to a new system. I do it through the Ethernet connections. It is very
fast,
it is easy to do. In one case I transferred data from a 1994 computer
(60mHz
Pentium) running Win98 to a new 2006 system running WinXP.

In short here is what you need:
a. both computers must have an Ethernet card.
-- for the 1994 computer, I found one at Fry's for $2. (Yes, two
dollars)
typically they are about $10. Used parts stores will have
them.
-- most computers today come with one.
b. Go to Control Panel-Network Connections
-- while there, go to the 'identity' tab and make sure both
computers
have the same workgroup, like ROD_GROUP
-- turn on 'file-sharing' for at least one of the two computers,
preferably
for both. Then one computer can 'see' a folder on the other
and
put
things in it through the Ethernet connection.
-- you can used the computers 'shared folder' which is
automatically
set up
for sharing. Or you can create a new folder (like 'Transferred
files') and
then right click on teh folder, click on teh shared folder
option.
c. Get a 'crossover' Ethernet cable. (A regular Ethernet cable will
not
work).
d. Connect the two computers to each other with the crossover cable.
e. You should then, through either "network Neighborhood" or via the
Windows Explorer network options, see the other computer through
the WorkGroup (Rod_Group) and see the file(s) that are
designated
as share files.

Then, just cut and paste ... walk away do your regular work, come back
when
the file transfer is done.

- Scott.

"rod" wrote:

I have a Win98se box,
can I remove the HDD,
and hook it up as an external HDD on my XP?
I need to employ USB2 to move 300,000
images over to my XP.
Any warnings or "heads up" ?
Thanks very much.










 




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