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Colors will not "stick"
I bought a used computer, without OS. After installing Win98 (se), I discovered that the video adapter drivers were not present, but I have installed those now.
Everything SEEMS to be fine ... until I actually try to upgrade the color or resolution. When I change from 16 color to 256 (or high color), the system reverts back to 16 color (even though it says that the system needs to restart for the settings to take effect). [The 'apply color changes without restarting' box is checked.] I checked in MSConfig, and the 480*600*16 line is UNChecked. Again, the video adapter driver files match the hardware (STB Nvideo ZX); the monitor is Plug&Play. Any ideas on a cure? So -- any |
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It is probably the wrong driver Jack. Here is my standard blurb that may
help: When the correct screen resolution (screen area) or the right number of colors are not available choices in display properties, settings tab, then it is a good bet you do not have the right driver installed for your display adapter. The display adapter in your PC is either a video card or a display chipset on the motherboard. If you received a CD or floppy disks with drivers along with your PC, see if they contain a display adapter driver and install it using: control panel, system, device manager, display adapter. If you know what display adapter your PC has but you have no disks, use www.google.com to track down the correct driver on the internet. If you do not know what display adapter your PC uses, you can go to a MS-DOS prompt and type: Debug and hit enter. The screen will display a flashing prompt next to a - sign. Type: DC000:35 (DC000:50 may also work) and hit enter. The name and possibly model of your display adapter should appear on the right hand side of the screen. To quit Debug, type Q and hit enter. If Debug is not helpful, you can try this program: Advanced PCI Info, available at: http://www.upsystems.com.ua/support/alexmina/ If all else fails, you will have to remove the computer case. Look at where the monitor plugs into the back of the case and then check that location inside the case. If there is a card there, you obviously have a video card and if not, you have on board graphics. Write down any information displayed on either the card or the chipset on the motherboard. Then use www.google.com to search for the information. Do not include all the data you found in one search message--search on each piece individually. If you include all the information at once, you might not get a hit. I have found that a video card will generally have to be removed in order to see the information. Be careful of static electricity as it can fry components. Before touching anything in the computer case (the cord is unplugged, right?), ground yourself to the case by touching it. Don't work on carpeting since shuffling your feet on it can generate static electricity after you grounded yourself. Remove the one screw that holds the card in place and using a rocking motion (left to right and back) and pull the card straight out. Once you have the right driver, install it through control panel, system, device manager or through control panel, add new hardware, as appropriate. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" Jack in wrote in message ... I bought a used computer, without OS. After installing Win98 (se), I discovered that the video adapter drivers were not present, but I have installed those now. Everything SEEMS to be fine ... until I actually try to upgrade the color or resolution. When I change from 16 color to 256 (or high color), the system reverts back to 16 color (even though it says that the system needs to restart for the settings to take effect). [The 'apply color changes without restarting' box is checked.] I checked in MSConfig, and the 480*600*16 line is UNChecked. Again, the video adapter driver files match the hardware (STB Nvideo ZX); the monitor is Plug&Play. Any ideas on a cure? So -- any |
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Ron:
Thanks for replying. The right number of colors DO appear as choices; originally, they did not -- but they did once I installed the drivers for the STB card inside the box. Is there some 'hidden' setting (in a bat or ini file, perhaps) preventing higher colors that would not be controlled by MSConfig? I can choose either 256 or high color in control panel, but it always reverts to 16 colors Any help would be appreciated! "Ron Badour" wrote: It is probably the wrong driver Jack. Here is my standard blurb that may help: When the correct screen resolution (screen area) or the right number of colors are not available choices in display properties, settings tab, then it is a good bet you do not have the right driver installed for your display adapter. The display adapter in your PC is either a video card or a display chipset on the motherboard. If you received a CD or floppy disks with drivers along with your PC, see if they contain a display adapter driver and install it using: control panel, system, device manager, display adapter. If you know what display adapter your PC has but you have no disks, use www.google.com to track down the correct driver on the internet. If you do not know what display adapter your PC uses, you can go to a MS-DOS prompt and type: Debug and hit enter. The screen will display a flashing prompt next to a - sign. Type: DC000:35 (DC000:50 may also work) and hit enter. The name and possibly model of your display adapter should appear on the right hand side of the screen. To quit Debug, type Q and hit enter. If Debug is not helpful, you can try this program: Advanced PCI Info, available at: http://www.upsystems.com.ua/support/alexmina/ If all else fails, you will have to remove the computer case. Look at where the monitor plugs into the back of the case and then check that location inside the case. If there is a card there, you obviously have a video card and if not, you have on board graphics. Write down any information displayed on either the card or the chipset on the motherboard. Then use www.google.com to search for the information. Do not include all the data you found in one search message--search on each piece individually. If you include all the information at once, you might not get a hit. I have found that a video card will generally have to be removed in order to see the information. Be careful of static electricity as it can fry components. Before touching anything in the computer case (the cord is unplugged, right?), ground yourself to the case by touching it. Don't work on carpeting since shuffling your feet on it can generate static electricity after you grounded yourself. Remove the one screw that holds the card in place and using a rocking motion (left to right and back) and pull the card straight out. Once you have the right driver, install it through control panel, system, device manager or through control panel, add new hardware, as appropriate. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" Jack in wrote in message ... I bought a used computer, without OS. After installing Win98 (se), I discovered that the video adapter drivers were not present, but I have installed those now. Everything SEEMS to be fine ... until I actually try to upgrade the color or resolution. When I change from 16 color to 256 (or high color), the system reverts back to 16 color (even though it says that the system needs to restart for the settings to take effect). [The 'apply color changes without restarting' box is checked.] I checked in MSConfig, and the 480*600*16 line is UNChecked. Again, the video adapter driver files match the hardware (STB Nvideo ZX); the monitor is Plug&Play. Any ideas on a cure? So -- any |
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Hi Jack
I still think it is the wrong driver that is causing the problem. I should have told you that I provided my standard blurb that talks about color choices only for information to use in identifying the correct driver. Sometimes you can hunt down what you think is the correct driver only to find that you might need a special one issued by the computer maker. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" wrote in message ... Ron: Thanks for replying. The right number of colors DO appear as choices; originally, they did not -- but they did once I installed the drivers for the STB card inside the box. Is there some 'hidden' setting (in a bat or ini file, perhaps) preventing higher colors that would not be controlled by MSConfig? I can choose either 256 or high color in control panel, but it always reverts to 16 colors Any help would be appreciated! "Ron Badour" wrote: It is probably the wrong driver Jack. Here is my standard blurb that may help: When the correct screen resolution (screen area) or the right number of colors are not available choices in display properties, settings tab, then it is a good bet you do not have the right driver installed for your display adapter. The display adapter in your PC is either a video card or a display chipset on the motherboard. If you received a CD or floppy disks with drivers along with your PC, see if they contain a display adapter driver and install it using: control panel, system, device manager, display adapter. If you know what display adapter your PC has but you have no disks, use www.google.com to track down the correct driver on the internet. If you do not know what display adapter your PC uses, you can go to a MS-DOS prompt and type: Debug and hit enter. The screen will display a flashing prompt next to a - sign. Type: DC000:35 (DC000:50 may also work) and hit enter. The name and possibly model of your display adapter should appear on the right hand side of the screen. To quit Debug, type Q and hit enter. If Debug is not helpful, you can try this program: Advanced PCI Info, available at: http://www.upsystems.com.ua/support/alexmina/ If all else fails, you will have to remove the computer case. Look at where the monitor plugs into the back of the case and then check that location inside the case. If there is a card there, you obviously have a video card and if not, you have on board graphics. Write down any information displayed on either the card or the chipset on the motherboard. Then use www.google.com to search for the information. Do not include all the data you found in one search message--search on each piece individually. If you include all the information at once, you might not get a hit. I have found that a video card will generally have to be removed in order to see the information. Be careful of static electricity as it can fry components. Before touching anything in the computer case (the cord is unplugged, right?), ground yourself to the case by touching it. Don't work on carpeting since shuffling your feet on it can generate static electricity after you grounded yourself. Remove the one screw that holds the card in place and using a rocking motion (left to right and back) and pull the card straight out. Once you have the right driver, install it through control panel, system, device manager or through control panel, add new hardware, as appropriate. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" Jack in wrote in message ... I bought a used computer, without OS. After installing Win98 (se), I discovered that the video adapter drivers were not present, but I have installed those now. Everything SEEMS to be fine ... until I actually try to upgrade the color or resolution. When I change from 16 color to 256 (or high color), the system reverts back to 16 color (even though it says that the system needs to restart for the settings to take effect). [The 'apply color changes without restarting' box is checked.] I checked in MSConfig, and the 480*600*16 line is UNChecked. Again, the video adapter driver files match the hardware (STB Nvideo ZX); the monitor is Plug&Play. Any ideas on a cure? So -- any |
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Thanks, Ron.
Well, if it's still the driver, how do I find out WHICH one I need? The one installed now matches the display adapter, and was downloaded from the manufacturer's web site last week. From what I could see, it was the most recent version. "Ron Badour" wrote: Hi Jack I still think it is the wrong driver that is causing the problem. I should have told you that I provided my standard blurb that talks about color choices only for information to use in identifying the correct driver. Sometimes you can hunt down what you think is the correct driver only to find that you might need a special one issued by the computer maker. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" wrote in message ... Ron: Thanks for replying. The right number of colors DO appear as choices; originally, they did not -- but they did once I installed the drivers for the STB card inside the box. Is there some 'hidden' setting (in a bat or ini file, perhaps) preventing higher colors that would not be controlled by MSConfig? I can choose either 256 or high color in control panel, but it always reverts to 16 colors Any help would be appreciated! "Ron Badour" wrote: It is probably the wrong driver Jack. Here is my standard blurb that may help: When the correct screen resolution (screen area) or the right number of colors are not available choices in display properties, settings tab, then it is a good bet you do not have the right driver installed for your display adapter. The display adapter in your PC is either a video card or a display chipset on the motherboard. If you received a CD or floppy disks with drivers along with your PC, see if they contain a display adapter driver and install it using: control panel, system, device manager, display adapter. If you know what display adapter your PC has but you have no disks, use www.google.com to track down the correct driver on the internet. If you do not know what display adapter your PC uses, you can go to a MS-DOS prompt and type: Debug and hit enter. The screen will display a flashing prompt next to a - sign. Type: DC000:35 (DC000:50 may also work) and hit enter. The name and possibly model of your display adapter should appear on the right hand side of the screen. To quit Debug, type Q and hit enter. If Debug is not helpful, you can try this program: Advanced PCI Info, available at: http://www.upsystems.com.ua/support/alexmina/ If all else fails, you will have to remove the computer case. Look at where the monitor plugs into the back of the case and then check that location inside the case. If there is a card there, you obviously have a video card and if not, you have on board graphics. Write down any information displayed on either the card or the chipset on the motherboard. Then use www.google.com to search for the information. Do not include all the data you found in one search message--search on each piece individually. If you include all the information at once, you might not get a hit. I have found that a video card will generally have to be removed in order to see the information. Be careful of static electricity as it can fry components. Before touching anything in the computer case (the cord is unplugged, right?), ground yourself to the case by touching it. Don't work on carpeting since shuffling your feet on it can generate static electricity after you grounded yourself. Remove the one screw that holds the card in place and using a rocking motion (left to right and back) and pull the card straight out. Once you have the right driver, install it through control panel, system, device manager or through control panel, add new hardware, as appropriate. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" Jack in wrote in message ... I bought a used computer, without OS. After installing Win98 (se), I discovered that the video adapter drivers were not present, but I have installed those now. Everything SEEMS to be fine ... until I actually try to upgrade the color or resolution. When I change from 16 color to 256 (or high color), the system reverts back to 16 color (even though it says that the system needs to restart for the settings to take effect). [The 'apply color changes without restarting' box is checked.] I checked in MSConfig, and the 480*600*16 line is UNChecked. Again, the video adapter driver files match the hardware (STB Nvideo ZX); the monitor is Plug&Play. Any ideas on a cure? So -- any |
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Hi Jack,
Do you **positively know** the exact nomenclature (for example, my adapter is: ATI Tech Inc, Rage 128 Pro AGP 4X TMDS) of the board (you listed: "STB Nvideo ZX" but I think you spelled nVidia wrong)? If so, what is it? What brand PC is it in? Where did you get the driver from? Sometimes the most recent driver version won't work right on a particular PC and you must use an older one. Likewise, if the board came in a Dell (for instance), then your first stop would be the Dell web site rather than a driver web site or nVidia's site. By the way, I was in Capitol Airport last Monday returning from a visit with my Mom. It rained much of the time I was in Michigan and it has rained nearly constantly since I got back to Texas. I don't know if I am attracting the lousy weather or if Michigan's weather figured it hadn't punished me enough yet and followed me here. G -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" wrote in message ... Thanks, Ron. Well, if it's still the driver, how do I find out WHICH one I need? The one installed now matches the display adapter, and was downloaded from the manufacturer's web site last week. From what I could see, it was the most recent version. "Ron Badour" wrote: Hi Jack I still think it is the wrong driver that is causing the problem. I should have told you that I provided my standard blurb that talks about color choices only for information to use in identifying the correct driver. Sometimes you can hunt down what you think is the correct driver only to find that you might need a special one issued by the computer maker. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" wrote in message ... Ron: Thanks for replying. The right number of colors DO appear as choices; originally, they did not -- but they did once I installed the drivers for the STB card inside the box. Is there some 'hidden' setting (in a bat or ini file, perhaps) preventing higher colors that would not be controlled by MSConfig? I can choose either 256 or high color in control panel, but it always reverts to 16 colors Any help would be appreciated! "Ron Badour" wrote: It is probably the wrong driver Jack. Here is my standard blurb that may help: When the correct screen resolution (screen area) or the right number of colors are not available choices in display properties, settings tab, then it is a good bet you do not have the right driver installed for your display adapter. The display adapter in your PC is either a video card or a display chipset on the motherboard. If you received a CD or floppy disks with drivers along with your PC, see if they contain a display adapter driver and install it using: control panel, system, device manager, display adapter. If you know what display adapter your PC has but you have no disks, use www.google.com to track down the correct driver on the internet. If you do not know what display adapter your PC uses, you can go to a MS-DOS prompt and type: Debug and hit enter. The screen will display a flashing prompt next to a - sign. Type: DC000:35 (DC000:50 may also work) and hit enter. The name and possibly model of your display adapter should appear on the right hand side of the screen. To quit Debug, type Q and hit enter. If Debug is not helpful, you can try this program: Advanced PCI Info, available at: http://www.upsystems.com.ua/support/alexmina/ If all else fails, you will have to remove the computer case. Look at where the monitor plugs into the back of the case and then check that location inside the case. If there is a card there, you obviously have a video card and if not, you have on board graphics. Write down any information displayed on either the card or the chipset on the motherboard. Then use www.google.com to search for the information. Do not include all the data you found in one search message--search on each piece individually. If you include all the information at once, you might not get a hit. I have found that a video card will generally have to be removed in order to see the information. Be careful of static electricity as it can fry components. Before touching anything in the computer case (the cord is unplugged, right?), ground yourself to the case by touching it. Don't work on carpeting since shuffling your feet on it can generate static electricity after you grounded yourself. Remove the one screw that holds the card in place and using a rocking motion (left to right and back) and pull the card straight out. Once you have the right driver, install it through control panel, system, device manager or through control panel, add new hardware, as appropriate. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" Jack in wrote in message ... I bought a used computer, without OS. After installing Win98 (se), I discovered that the video adapter drivers were not present, but I have installed those now. Everything SEEMS to be fine ... until I actually try to upgrade the color or resolution. When I change from 16 color to 256 (or high color), the system reverts back to 16 color (even though it says that the system needs to restart for the settings to take effect). [The 'apply color changes without restarting' box is checked.] I checked in MSConfig, and the 480*600*16 line is UNChecked. Again, the video adapter driver files match the hardware (STB Nvideo ZX); the monitor is Plug&Play. Any ideas on a cure? So -- any |
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"Ron Badour"wrote in message:
snip By the way, I was in Capitol Airport last Monday returning from a visit with my Mom. It rained much of the time I was in Michigan and it has rained nearly constantly since I got back to Texas. I don't know if I am attracting the lousy weather or if Michigan's weather figured it hadn't punished me enough yet and followed me here. G LOL. Murphy has you in his sights!! -- Brian A. Jack of all trades, Master of none. One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn. |
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Ron:
It's a nice coincidence that you were at our airport recently; however, I am SURE that the weather just was attracted to you there in Texas ... Michigan is noted for its balmy, sunny weather. I got the problem solved last night. The adapater and drivers were not the problem; in system.ini, the variable 'display.fallback=0' statement had been commented out (disabled). As soon as I made that line active, the controls behaved just fine -- it's currently on 256 color without any problems. Thanks for the help! Jack "Ron Badour" wrote: Hi Jack, Do you **positively know** the exact nomenclature (for example, my adapter is: ATI Tech Inc, Rage 128 Pro AGP 4X TMDS) of the board (you listed: "STB Nvideo ZX" but I think you spelled nVidia wrong)? If so, what is it? What brand PC is it in? Where did you get the driver from? Sometimes the most recent driver version won't work right on a particular PC and you must use an older one. Likewise, if the board came in a Dell (for instance), then your first stop would be the Dell web site rather than a driver web site or nVidia's site. By the way, I was in Capitol Airport last Monday returning from a visit with my Mom. It rained much of the time I was in Michigan and it has rained nearly constantly since I got back to Texas. I don't know if I am attracting the lousy weather or if Michigan's weather figured it hadn't punished me enough yet and followed me here. G -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" wrote in message ... Thanks, Ron. Well, if it's still the driver, how do I find out WHICH one I need? The one installed now matches the display adapter, and was downloaded from the manufacturer's web site last week. From what I could see, it was the most recent version. "Ron Badour" wrote: Hi Jack I still think it is the wrong driver that is causing the problem. I should have told you that I provided my standard blurb that talks about color choices only for information to use in identifying the correct driver. Sometimes you can hunt down what you think is the correct driver only to find that you might need a special one issued by the computer maker. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" wrote in message ... Ron: Thanks for replying. The right number of colors DO appear as choices; originally, they did not -- but they did once I installed the drivers for the STB card inside the box. Is there some 'hidden' setting (in a bat or ini file, perhaps) preventing higher colors that would not be controlled by MSConfig? I can choose either 256 or high color in control panel, but it always reverts to 16 colors Any help would be appreciated! "Ron Badour" wrote: It is probably the wrong driver Jack. Here is my standard blurb that may help: When the correct screen resolution (screen area) or the right number of colors are not available choices in display properties, settings tab, then it is a good bet you do not have the right driver installed for your display adapter. The display adapter in your PC is either a video card or a display chipset on the motherboard. If you received a CD or floppy disks with drivers along with your PC, see if they contain a display adapter driver and install it using: control panel, system, device manager, display adapter. If you know what display adapter your PC has but you have no disks, use www.google.com to track down the correct driver on the internet. If you do not know what display adapter your PC uses, you can go to a MS-DOS prompt and type: Debug and hit enter. The screen will display a flashing prompt next to a - sign. Type: DC000:35 (DC000:50 may also work) and hit enter. The name and possibly model of your display adapter should appear on the right hand side of the screen. To quit Debug, type Q and hit enter. If Debug is not helpful, you can try this program: Advanced PCI Info, available at: http://www.upsystems.com.ua/support/alexmina/ If all else fails, you will have to remove the computer case. Look at where the monitor plugs into the back of the case and then check that location inside the case. If there is a card there, you obviously have a video card and if not, you have on board graphics. Write down any information displayed on either the card or the chipset on the motherboard. Then use www.google.com to search for the information. Do not include all the data you found in one search message--search on each piece individually. If you include all the information at once, you might not get a hit. I have found that a video card will generally have to be removed in order to see the information. Be careful of static electricity as it can fry components. Before touching anything in the computer case (the cord is unplugged, right?), ground yourself to the case by touching it. Don't work on carpeting since shuffling your feet on it can generate static electricity after you grounded yourself. Remove the one screw that holds the card in place and using a rocking motion (left to right and back) and pull the card straight out. Once you have the right driver, install it through control panel, system, device manager or through control panel, add new hardware, as appropriate. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jack in Lansing" Jack in wrote in message ... I bought a used computer, without OS. After installing Win98 (se), I discovered that the video adapter drivers were not present, but I have installed those now. Everything SEEMS to be fine ... until I actually try to upgrade the color or resolution. When I change from 16 color to 256 (or high color), the system reverts back to 16 color (even though it says that the system needs to restart for the settings to take effect). [The 'apply color changes without restarting' box is checked.] I checked in MSConfig, and the 480*600*16 line is UNChecked. Again, the video adapter driver files match the hardware (STB Nvideo ZX); the monitor is Plug&Play. Any ideas on a cure? So -- any |
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