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New PC, ME with old BIOS
I did verify that I
can access msconfig but you haven't told me what to do there. I explicitly stated the edit that is required to system.ini. Let me try and remind you of what was in my earlier post: quote To limit vcache, open system.ini and add the lines [VCache] MaxFileCache=512000 /quote -- Mike Maltby William B. Lurie wrote: Further news, Mike....maybe it will surprise you as it did me. I connected the PC up again, with the partially-installed drive as Slave, my main drive as Master, and rebooted, this time asking to to go to the Slave. I started it up and F8 to the 98 HDD and it booted right into 98, Safe Mode. I'm hastening to tell you this, although I expect that you'll have responded to previous posting before you see this. I did verify that I can access msconfig but you haven't told me what to do there. Now I'm curious as to what will happen if I try Normal Mode... |
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Right you are. With all the messages, I had forgotten
that. So I went there, and with considerable difficulty I managed to get it to look approximately as you describe. In saving it and restarting, in Normal Mode it still gives the same message and asks for Restart. I'll try to describe how that entry in the system.ini file now looks: [-] [check] (open folder sketch) [VCache] [check] / and in a full rectangle MaxFileCache=512000 Where I show "/" above, it really looks like a tiny yellow pencil. I haven't been able to make it look like just [VCache] with MaxFileCache=512000 directly under it. Did I do it correctly, and it just still isn't solving my problem, or did I not get it right? Mike M wrote: I did verify that I can access msconfig but you haven't told me what to do there. I explicitly stated the edit that is required to system.ini. Let me try and remind you of what was in my earlier post: quote To limit vcache, open system.ini and add the lines [VCache] MaxFileCache=512000 /quote |
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Mike M wrote:
I did verify that I can access msconfig but you haven't told me what to do there. I explicitly stated the edit that is required to system.ini. Let me try and remind you of what was in my earlier post: quote To limit vcache, open system.ini and add the lines [VCache] MaxFileCache=512000 /quote Mike (and Mart): I think I just have to give up this quest. I think you fellows have diagnosed every problem and I've complied with all your corrections and I'm still not there. About the vcache and 512M, I mentioned that I couldn't get the line in system.ini to look proper (in my eyes), and that was the last improvement I installed at your request. The question of clock speed has elicited the following very strong comment from Gary Terhune, who is another of the MVPs who have been trying to guide me in this quest: ------------------------------------------------------- I give up! YOU ALMOST CERTAINLY CANNOT RUN ANY KIND OF WINDOWS 95, 98, 98SE, ME or NT (maybe even 2000) ON THAT MACHINE! I can almost guarantee you that. You need drivers and there are no such things. They've never been written. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com --------------------------------------------------------- Win98 does boot and work gracefully in Virtual PC on this machine. There are limitations to overcome if I have no alternative to running it that way, but maybe I'll be able to work around those. If you fellows want to breathe a sigh of relief and drop this Don Quixote-type effort, I'm agreeable, and appreciative of all your efforts over this past several days and nights. But before we go, please tell me, if you can, if there is a clean link to whatever I should install after I have Win98 installed from my original 98 installation CD, in a Virtual PC.....and before I install Windows ME from my upgrade CD.......and what upgrades to Windows ME to install after that. I can't find then on the Microsoft Download Site. |
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I think you've pretty well summed it up Mike - the devil is in the detail
although I think I did mention WinMe/motherboard incompatibility somewhere in the thread. But once you went delving into VMWare and VPC - then being on XPHome - I effectively wrote myself out of the script. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... It's a shame that you didn't give more details of the new machine from the start as that would have saved a lot of time for all concerned. Use VPC if you want to need to run 9x software which won't run in Win95 or Win98/Me compatibility mode on a modern OS (XP or Vista). If you need usb support, not that that much old software uses usb, then you might need to use VMWare instead of VPC. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows William B. Lurie wrote: Mike (and Mart): I think I just have to give up this quest. I think you fellows have diagnosed every problem and I've complied with all your corrections and I'm still not there. About the vcache and 512M, I mentioned that I couldn't get the line in system.ini to look proper (in my eyes), and that was the last improvement I installed at your request. The question of clock speed has elicited the following very strong comment from Gary Terhune, who is another of the MVPs who have been trying to guide me in this quest: ------------------------------------------------------- I give up! YOU ALMOST CERTAINLY CANNOT RUN ANY KIND OF WINDOWS 95, 98, 98SE, ME or NT (maybe even 2000) ON THAT MACHINE! I can almost guarantee you that. You need drivers and there are no such things. They've never been written. |
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I guess my last question is, after installing Win98
in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was it just perfect when released? Mart wrote: I think you've pretty well summed it up Mike - the devil is in the detail although I think I did mention WinMe/motherboard incompatibility somewhere in the thread. But once you went delving into VMWare and VPC - then being on XPHome - I effectively wrote myself out of the script. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... It's a shame that you didn't give more details of the new machine from the start as that would have saved a lot of time for all concerned. Use VPC if you want to need to run 9x software which won't run in Win95 or Win98/Me compatibility mode on a modern OS (XP or Vista). If you need usb support, not that that much old software uses usb, then you might need to use VMWare instead of VPC. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows William B. Lurie wrote: Mike (and Mart): I think I just have to give up this quest. I think you fellows have diagnosed every problem and I've complied with all your corrections and I'm still not there. About the vcache and 512M, I mentioned that I couldn't get the line in system.ini to look proper (in my eyes), and that was the last improvement I installed at your request. The question of clock speed has elicited the following very strong comment from Gary Terhune, who is another of the MVPs who have been trying to guide me in this quest: ------------------------------------------------------- I give up! YOU ALMOST CERTAINLY CANNOT RUN ANY KIND OF WINDOWS 95, 98, 98SE, ME or NT (maybe even 2000) ON THAT MACHINE! I can almost guarantee you that. You need drivers and there are no such things. They've never been written. |
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William B. Lurie wrote:
I guess my last question is, after installing Win98 in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was it just perfect when released? 290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win Me from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you move from WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems in installing any of these patches or you find that installing one breaks things, for example you are suddenly unable to access Help without encountering an error post back and either Mart or myself will try and help you out. -- Mike Maltby |
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Mike M wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote: I guess my last question is, after installing Win98 in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was it just perfect when released? 290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win Me from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you move from WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems in installing any of these patches or you find that installing one breaks things, for example you are suddenly unable to access Help without encountering an error post back and either Mart or myself will try and help you out. Thank you, Mike. I now have my VPC with 98 running and also upgraded to Win ME from my upgrade CD. I'll see if I can find the patches for ME. |
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William B. Lurie wrote:
Mike M wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: I guess my last question is, after installing Win98 in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was it just perfect when released? 290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win Me from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you move from WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems in installing any of these patches or you find that installing one breaks things, for example you are suddenly unable to access Help without encountering an error post back and either Mart or myself will try and help you out. Thank you, Mike. I now have my VPC with 98 running and also upgraded to Win ME from my upgrade CD. I'll see if I can find the patches for ME. Mike, already I need help. I went to Microsoft website and first found that I needed to be there via IE, not my usual Mozilla. So I went via IE7 and tried to find the downloads for ME. I kept getting to where it tested my machine to see what I needed but I didn't need to know what's available for my XP but for ME .....and in my VPC (ME) I had no intention of going online. So please tell me, do I HAVE to install and activate Internet software in my VPC ME in order to get the ME Upgrades? Isn't there a way I can download them while online here in XP, save them and install them in ME when I go there? |
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You can only obtain updates from the Windows Update site using the PC to
be updated. For the last year or so you can only obtain updates for Win 9x systems from the Windows Update Catalogue site using a Win 9x system. XP and later systems go to a more recent version of the Windows Update Catalogue site that has no Win 9x content. -- Mike Maltby William B. Lurie wrote: Mike, already I need help. I went to Microsoft website and first found that I needed to be there via IE, not my usual Mozilla. So I went via IE7 and tried to find the downloads for ME. I kept getting to where it tested my machine to see what I needed but I didn't need to know what's available for my XP but for ME ....and in my VPC (ME) I had no intention of going online. So please tell me, do I HAVE to install and activate Internet software in my VPC ME in order to get the ME Upgrades? Isn't there a way I can download them while online here in XP, save them and install them in ME when I go there? |
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