DNS enable appears to cause problems:

Win98SE
Host file active
Network OptionsTCP/IP Dial-up set to "enable DNS checking"
I am on a Dial-up system.

According to a document at
http://www.uraniannights.com/www/dea...ity/hosts.html, i
enabled DNS checking in Network, host set to "localhost, DNS search order
has the single entry of 127.0.0.1,
I set these Options in order to bolster the effect of the HOSTS file.

It certainly appeared to do so.

The problem is that after a cold boot, common URLs come up "page not found."
IOW, it appears that no DNS is getting out of 127.0.0.1.

The excruciatingly obvious solution is to go back into Network Options and
disable DNS checking, which was the default on my installation. HOWEVER,
to do so does not address the problem.

WINS in Network Settings is blank...totally unset.
IP Address is set to "obtain an IP address automatically".

The workaround solution - which still does not address any problem -- is to
do a warm reboot after a cold reboot -- at which time every thing is fine
insofar as external DNS resolutions.

Any other answers necessary to get an actual answer that addresses and
solves this problem and keeps DNS enabled can probably be provided.

Thanks,

FACE

You wrote:
WINS in Network Settings is blank...totally unset.

"Use DHCP for WINS Resolution" is not selected?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"FACE" wrote in message
...
Win98SE
Host file active
Network OptionsTCP/IP Dial-up set to "enable DNS checking"
I am on a Dial-up system.

According to a document at
http://www.uraniannights.com/www/dea...ity/hosts.html, i
enabled DNS checking in Network, host set to "localhost, DNS search order
has the single entry of 127.0.0.1,
I set these Options in order to bolster the effect of the HOSTS file.

It certainly appeared to do so.

The problem is that after a cold boot, common URLs come up "page not found."
IOW, it appears that no DNS is getting out of 127.0.0.1.

The excruciatingly obvious solution is to go back into Network Options and
disable DNS checking, which was the default on my installation. HOWEVER,
to do so does not address the problem.

WINS in Network Settings is blank...totally unset.
IP Address is set to "obtain an IP address automatically".

The workaround solution - which still does not address any problem -- is to
do a warm reboot after a cold reboot -- at which time every thing is fine
insofar as external DNS resolutions.

Any other answers necessary to get an actual answer that addresses and
solves this problem and keeps DNS enabled can probably be provided.

Thanks,

FACE

You wrote:
WINS in Network Settings is blank...totally unset.

"Use DHCP for WINS Resolution" is not selected?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"FACE" wrote in message
...
Win98SE
Host file active
Network OptionsTCP/IP Dial-up set to "enable DNS checking"
I am on a Dial-up system.

According to a document at
http://www.uraniannights.com/www/dea...ity/hosts.html, i
enabled DNS checking in Network, host set to "localhost, DNS search order
has the single entry of 127.0.0.1,
I set these Options in order to bolster the effect of the HOSTS file.

It certainly appeared to do so.

The problem is that after a cold boot, common URLs come up "page not found."
IOW, it appears that no DNS is getting out of 127.0.0.1.

The excruciatingly obvious solution is to go back into Network Options and
disable DNS checking, which was the default on my installation. HOWEVER,
to do so does not address the problem.

WINS in Network Settings is blank...totally unset.
IP Address is set to "obtain an IP address automatically".

The workaround solution - which still does not address any problem -- is to
do a warm reboot after a cold reboot -- at which time every thing is fine
insofar as external DNS resolutions.

Any other answers necessary to get an actual answer that addresses and
solves this problem and keeps DNS enabled can probably be provided.

Thanks,

FACE

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:52:50 -0500, "glee" in
microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote:

You wrote:
WINS in Network Settings is blank...totally unset.

"Use DHCP for WINS Resolution" is not selected?

Sorry, my error. That is selected (at the bottom of the dialogue box).

I also re-read, and i think i may have possibly originally misread, the
following URL:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...7/wrkappg.mspx

Specifically, the paragraph:
"Important To use the HOSTS file for name resolution, the Enable DNS option
must be selected. To do this, use the DNS Configuration tab in TCP/IP
properties in the Network option in Control Panel. "

BUT......if i did misread it, it does not explain why it is an intermittent
problem -- for example, everything is fine right now and I have made no
changes. When it is not working for things like "Yahoo" my email access
(and my NNTP access--but that may be an entirely different kettle of fish)
is unaffected. It does appear that anything that wishes to go *outside* of
my ISP IP is lost -- however, my ISP IP does NOT occur in the HOSTS file
AND viewing my email client's Account Settings (Netscape) the mail server is
identified by domain, not by IP. (Please let me in on whether this paragraph
is coherent. G)

FACE

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:52:50 -0500, "glee" in
microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote:

You wrote:
WINS in Network Settings is blank...totally unset.

"Use DHCP for WINS Resolution" is not selected?

Sorry, my error. That is selected (at the bottom of the dialogue box).

I also re-read, and i think i may have possibly originally misread, the
following URL:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...7/wrkappg.mspx

Specifically, the paragraph:
"Important To use the HOSTS file for name resolution, the Enable DNS option
must be selected. To do this, use the DNS Configuration tab in TCP/IP
properties in the Network option in Control Panel. "

BUT......if i did misread it, it does not explain why it is an intermittent
problem -- for example, everything is fine right now and I have made no
changes. When it is not working for things like "Yahoo" my email access
(and my NNTP access--but that may be an entirely different kettle of fish)
is unaffected. It does appear that anything that wishes to go *outside* of
my ISP IP is lost -- however, my ISP IP does NOT occur in the HOSTS file
AND viewing my email client's Account Settings (Netscape) the mail server is
identified by domain, not by IP. (Please let me in on whether this paragraph
is coherent. G)

FACE

First of all, I use a HOSTS file to block ads, and it works just fine without having
to make the changes you made in the Network control panel. I am not a networking
expert, but I don't know why that web site tells you to change the configuration on
the TCP/IP properties' DNS Configuration tab....there is no need to do that. A
HOSTS file for this purpose works with those properties set at 'Disable DNS'.

Secondly, it is my understanding that this *must* be the first line of the HOSTS
file:
127.0.0.1 localhost
The file I see on the web site you linked (hosts.txt), does not have that as the
first line.

I suggest you re-name the HOSTS file to Hosts.old, change your TCP/IP properties to
'Disable DNS', click OK and reboot. Then download the HOSTS file at the link below,
set it in your Windows folder, and see how things work for you:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Read the whole page, while you're there....heck, check out the whole site!
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"FACE" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:52:50 -0500, "glee" in
microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote:

You wrote:
WINS in Network Settings is blank...totally unset.

"Use DHCP for WINS Resolution" is not selected?

Sorry, my error. That is selected (at the bottom of the dialogue box).

I also re-read, and i think i may have possibly originally misread, the
following URL:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...7/wrkappg.mspx

Specifically, the paragraph:
"Important To use the HOSTS file for name resolution, the Enable DNS option
must be selected. To do this, use the DNS Configuration tab in TCP/IP
properties in the Network option in Control Panel. "

BUT......if i did misread it, it does not explain why it is an intermittent
problem -- for example, everything is fine right now and I have made no
changes. When it is not working for things like "Yahoo" my email access
(and my NNTP access--but that may be an entirely different kettle of fish)
is unaffected. It does appear that anything that wishes to go *outside* of
my ISP IP is lost -- however, my ISP IP does NOT occur in the HOSTS file
AND viewing my email client's Account Settings (Netscape) the mail server is
identified by domain, not by IP. (Please let me in on whether this paragraph
is coherent. G)

FACE

First of all, I use a HOSTS file to block ads, and it works just fine without having
to make the changes you made in the Network control panel. I am not a networking
expert, but I don't know why that web site tells you to change the configuration on
the TCP/IP properties' DNS Configuration tab....there is no need to do that. A
HOSTS file for this purpose works with those properties set at 'Disable DNS'.

Secondly, it is my understanding that this *must* be the first line of the HOSTS
file:
127.0.0.1 localhost
The file I see on the web site you linked (hosts.txt), does not have that as the
first line.

I suggest you re-name the HOSTS file to Hosts.old, change your TCP/IP properties to
'Disable DNS', click OK and reboot. Then download the HOSTS file at the link below,
set it in your Windows folder, and see how things work for you:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Read the whole page, while you're there....heck, check out the whole site!
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"FACE" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:52:50 -0500, "glee" in
microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote:

You wrote:
WINS in Network Settings is blank...totally unset.

"Use DHCP for WINS Resolution" is not selected?

Sorry, my error. That is selected (at the bottom of the dialogue box).

I also re-read, and i think i may have possibly originally misread, the
following URL:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...7/wrkappg.mspx

Specifically, the paragraph:
"Important To use the HOSTS file for name resolution, the Enable DNS option
must be selected. To do this, use the DNS Configuration tab in TCP/IP
properties in the Network option in Control Panel. "

BUT......if i did misread it, it does not explain why it is an intermittent
problem -- for example, everything is fine right now and I have made no
changes. When it is not working for things like "Yahoo" my email access
(and my NNTP access--but that may be an entirely different kettle of fish)
is unaffected. It does appear that anything that wishes to go *outside* of
my ISP IP is lost -- however, my ISP IP does NOT occur in the HOSTS file
AND viewing my email client's Account Settings (Netscape) the mail server is
identified by domain, not by IP. (Please let me in on whether this paragraph
is coherent. G)

FACE

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:11:09 -0500, "glee" in
microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote:

First of all, I use a HOSTS file to block ads, and it works just fine without having
to make the changes you made in the Network control panel. I am not a networking
expert, but I don't know why that web site tells you to change the configuration on
the TCP/IP properties' DNS Configuration tab....there is no need to do that. A
HOSTS file for this purpose works with those properties set at 'Disable DNS'.

OK.
Secondly, it is my understanding that this *must* be the first line of the HOSTS
file:
127.0.0.1 localhost

It is in mine.

The file I see on the web site you linked (hosts.txt), does not have that as the
first line.

Several months ago, I got my host file from:

# http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ #

I suggest you re-name the HOSTS file to Hosts.old, change your TCP/IP properties to
'Disable DNS', click OK and reboot.

I will unchange my Network change.

Thanks

FACE


Then download the HOSTS file at the link below,
set it in your Windows folder, and see how things work for you:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Read the whole page, while you're there....heck, check out the whole site!
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:11:09 -0500, "glee" in
microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote:

First of all, I use a HOSTS file to block ads, and it works just fine without having
to make the changes you made in the Network control panel. I am not a networking
expert, but I don't know why that web site tells you to change the configuration on
the TCP/IP properties' DNS Configuration tab....there is no need to do that. A
HOSTS file for this purpose works with those properties set at 'Disable DNS'.

OK.
Secondly, it is my understanding that this *must* be the first line of the HOSTS
file:
127.0.0.1 localhost

It is in mine.

The file I see on the web site you linked (hosts.txt), does not have that as the
first line.

Several months ago, I got my host file from:

# http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ #

I suggest you re-name the HOSTS file to Hosts.old, change your TCP/IP properties to
'Disable DNS', click OK and reboot.

I will unchange my Network change.

Thanks

FACE


Then download the HOSTS file at the link below,
set it in your Windows folder, and see how things work for you:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Read the whole page, while you're there....heck, check out the whole site!
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/

Let us know if there is any improvement.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"FACE" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:11:09 -0500, "glee" in
microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote:

First of all, I use a HOSTS file to block ads, and it works just fine without
having
to make the changes you made in the Network control panel. I am not a networking
expert, but I don't know why that web site tells you to change the configuration
on
the TCP/IP properties' DNS Configuration tab....there is no need to do that. A
HOSTS file for this purpose works with those properties set at 'Disable DNS'.

OK.
Secondly, it is my understanding that this *must* be the first line of the HOSTS
file:
127.0.0.1 localhost

It is in mine.

The file I see on the web site you linked (hosts.txt), does not have that as the
first line.

Several months ago, I got my host file from:

# http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ #

I suggest you re-name the HOSTS file to Hosts.old, change your TCP/IP properties
to
'Disable DNS', click OK and reboot.

I will unchange my Network change.

Thanks

FACE


Then download the HOSTS file at the link below,
set it in your Windows folder, and see how things work for you:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Read the whole page, while you're there....heck, check out the whole site!
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/