New Java Runtime Environment Update (2)

I believe they do make them these days, Joan (as, of course, have Intel for
donkeys. I hope they appreciate them).

They certainly make graphics cards, having merged/swallowed ATI. In fact AMD
are making a high-end processor that integrates the graphics too, which I
eagerly await.

Shane

Joan Archer wrote:
I always thought AMD was the processor not the motherboard.
Joan


webster72n wrote:

What do you mean by "AMD"?

"Advanced Micro Devices", with reference to my motherboard.

Just a minor detail......and he plans on dual booting? Bwa ha ha!!

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
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I always thought AMD was the processor not the motherboard.
Joan


webster72n wrote:

What do you mean by "AMD"?

"Advanced Micro Devices", with reference to my motherboard.

George Gee wrote:
Hi Shane
I didn't know you were into Robin Cooper!
Goes some way to explaining your sense of humour.


And why I'm always exhausted from Ping Pong! Actually I asked Parmaynu a
question on behalf of someone, but he never answered. It was severely
anticipated - but alas, and alack! And Aladdin. Alas and aladdin. I miss my
Aladdin paraffin heater. It is alack. Possibly the childhood of breathing
those fumes explains something too.


Shane

George Gee

"Shane" wrote in message
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I thought you were about to introduce Parmaynu there George!


Shane


George Gee wrote:
Heather

Better tread carefully here, after all Harry is a known expert
with Java, he does have 3386 versions of it in Add/Remove programs.

George Gee

Joan Archer wrote:
I always thought AMD was the processor not the motherboard.
Joan

Me too. It says it right on the side of the box ;-)

Alias


webster72n wrote:
What do you mean by "AMD"?
"Advanced Micro Devices", with reference to my motherboard.

No. No, Joan. Not without my caffeine. God but it's a sad, sordid business!
It still froths the milk, just won't force the water through the coffee - so
now I'm frothing milk and adding a little boiling water to Gold Blend (which
makes it like Camp, except not made from spit) and pouring that in. I can't
take more than one a day though! It's a come down from about half a dozen!


Shane



Joan Archer wrote:
lol What have you done to it then, we can't have you going without
your caffeine g
Joan

Shane wrote:

I, however, am with Joan on Java. Except that my coffee machine
doesn't work anymore.

Shane

Is that the 'claw hand' thing, Harry (that Maggie Thatcher had)? Though I
thought she only had it in one hand. I doesn't suppose it's pleasant in
one - in both must be rough!

Good luck, Harry. I hope you're feeling better than you were yesterday
(regardless of how you were feeling yesterday!).


Shane

webster72n wrote:
Thank you for your explicit descriptions, Shane.
They show you care and that's being appreciated.
Of course I noticed ignoring the "64" along the way, but when I
installed the new version referred to by Alias, through the built-in
update feature, I received an error message and that threw me off.
Everything fell into place when I uninstalled the older version and
replaced it with the latest. Now I'm up-to-date, thanks to Tom, also.
As you might have noticed already, "they" don't have to worry about
"getting old", it's "automatic", sooner or later. If you play your
cards right, it may even be fun.
Just for informational purposes, last Wednesday I had my right hand
carpal tunnel surgery done (the left hand was done about 6 weeks ago)
and I am performing most of the tasks here left-handed.

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
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webster72n wrote:
"George Gee" wrote in message
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Harry

I would've thought "Thank you Tom for pointing out my error"

what error???
Tom is the one to give me the wrong link.


He didn't really need to give you a link, Harry. Your own
demonstrates his point. Look at the *x64.exe* at the end of it. That
means for 64-bit operating systems. It seems extremely unlikely that
your AMD processor is a 64-bit model, given past discussions here re
upgrading. It is doubly certain (that the file is not the one you're
using) because you are using Windows Millennium Edition. I have a
64-bit AMD processor - but the XP version it's running is a 32-bit
one and even I couldn't install the x64 JSE. It requires a 64-bit
operating system and XP and later come in 64-bit versions, but not
Millennium, nor - of course - will it, not ever.

So, yes, basically, with the x64 in the filename, it is a different
file to what you have. I would further presume - given Tom's point
of questioning their recommending a version with a security flaw -
assuming that version does indeed have such - that the x64 version
does not have it. Meanwhile, either the old x86 (32-bit Intel
compatible) JSE build has the flaw and you're still using it, or it
doesn't have the flaw and so what?

I, however, am with Joan on Java. Except that my coffee machine
doesn't work anymore.

Shane

Don't know about "claw hand", but it makes your hand(s) tingle and in severe
cases, like mine, almost feel numb.
I am recovering nicely and should be allright in a few weeks.

"Shane" wrote in message
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Is that the 'claw hand' thing, Harry (that Maggie Thatcher had)? Though I
thought she only had it in one hand. I doesn't suppose it's pleasant in
one - in both must be rough!

Good luck, Harry. I hope you're feeling better than you were yesterday
(regardless of how you were feeling yesterday!).


Shane

webster72n wrote:
Thank you for your explicit descriptions, Shane.
They show you care and that's being appreciated.
Of course I noticed ignoring the "64" along the way, but when I
installed the new version referred to by Alias, through the built-in
update feature, I received an error message and that threw me off.
Everything fell into place when I uninstalled the older version and
replaced it with the latest. Now I'm up-to-date, thanks to Tom, also.
As you might have noticed already, "they" don't have to worry about
"getting old", it's "automatic", sooner or later. If you play your
cards right, it may even be fun.
Just for informational purposes, last Wednesday I had my right hand
carpal tunnel surgery done (the left hand was done about 6 weeks ago)
and I am performing most of the tasks here left-handed.

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
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webster72n wrote:
"George Gee" wrote in message
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Harry

I would've thought "Thank you Tom for pointing out my error"

what error???
Tom is the one to give me the wrong link.


He didn't really need to give you a link, Harry. Your own
demonstrates his point. Look at the *x64.exe* at the end of it. That
means for 64-bit operating systems. It seems extremely unlikely that
your AMD processor is a 64-bit model, given past discussions here re
upgrading. It is doubly certain (that the file is not the one you're
using) because you are using Windows Millennium Edition. I have a
64-bit AMD processor - but the XP version it's running is a 32-bit
one and even I couldn't install the x64 JSE. It requires a 64-bit
operating system and XP and later come in 64-bit versions, but not
Millennium, nor - of course - will it, not ever.

So, yes, basically, with the x64 in the filename, it is a different
file to what you have. I would further presume - given Tom's point
of questioning their recommending a version with a security flaw -
assuming that version does indeed have such - that the x64 version
does not have it. Meanwhile, either the old x86 (32-bit Intel
compatible) JSE build has the flaw and you're still using it, or it
doesn't have the flaw and so what?

I, however, am with Joan on Java. Except that my coffee machine
doesn't work anymore.

Shane

AOL Me, either /AOL
Since Sun does not take security seriously, I'm uninstalling their java
runtimes from all of my systems.
Since June 29th there have been FIVE security bulletins issued on java,
2 of them highly **Critical**:
http://secunia.com/search/?search=Sun+java

Sun Java System Web / Application Server XSLT Processing Vulnerability
2007-07-11
Sun Java System Access Manager "message" Debug Level Password
Disclosure 2007-07-11
Sun Java JRE/JDK Processing of XSLT Stylesheets in XML Signatures
Vulnerability 2007-07-11
**Sun Java Web Start JNLP File Processing Buffer Overflow 2007-07-10**
**Sun Java Web Start Untrusted Application Arbitrary File Overwrite
2007-06-29**

I've tried for the last 2 and a half years to get them to at least have
their autoupdater remove older, vulnerable versions when a newer runtime
comes out, but they *refuse* to do it.
So, all Sun java will soon be buh-bye and that's one less vulnerability
vector to have to deal with.

How do they get away with such behavior ?
If MS behaved in the same manner it would be all over the media.
But since it's Sun, it's OK ?
Feh.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Joan Archer wrote:

I can give that a miss, I don't have Sun Java on here g
Joan


Alias wrote:

Get it at www.java.com

Alias

Hi Mow g glad to see I'm not on my own with regards Sun Java, I think
there have only been a couple of things that wouldn't work because I
didn't have it installed and they were not important enough to warrant
doing it so I just go on my merry way without it g

I do still have Microsoft VM installed even though it is no longer
supported g
Joan


MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
AOL Me, either /AOL
Since Sun does not take security seriously, I'm uninstalling their
java runtimes from all of my systems.
Since June 29th there have been FIVE security bulletins issued on
java, 2 of them highly **Critical**:
http://secunia.com/search/?search=Sun+java

snip

There's no java anything here and so far, so good

" There goes the Sun
doo dah doo dah ... "

MG


Joan Archer wrote:

Hi Mow g glad to see I'm not on my own with regards Sun Java, I think
there have only been a couple of things that wouldn't work because I
didn't have it installed and they were not important enough to warrant
doing it so I just go on my merry way without it g

I do still have Microsoft VM installed even though it is no longer
supported g
Joan


MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

AOL Me, either /AOL
Since Sun does not take security seriously, I'm uninstalling their
java runtimes from all of my systems.
Since June 29th there have been FIVE security bulletins issued on
java, 2 of them highly **Critical**:
http://secunia.com/search/?search=Sun+java

snip