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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
I got a laptop free and wanted to install 98 on it, a clean install for my
nephew. I burned a bootcd, and managed to format and partition it, my trouble starts because I dont have another disk drive to put the iso I have in, I only have the one drive, the laptop does not have a Floppy drive. Any suggestions? Whenever I try and use any setup commands I get invalid media trying to read disk |
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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
"xskarmah" wrote in message ... I got a laptop free and wanted to install 98 on it, a clean install for my nephew. I burned a bootcd, and managed to format and partition it, my trouble starts because I dont have another disk drive to put the iso I have in, I only have the one drive, the laptop does not have a Floppy drive. Any suggestions? Whenever I try and use any setup commands I get invalid media trying to read disk Win98 cd's at least legit ones are generally bootable so you do not need a floppy |
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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
"philo" wrote in message ... "xskarmah" wrote in message ... I got a laptop free and wanted to install 98 on it, a clean install for my nephew. I burned a bootcd, and managed to format and partition it, my trouble starts because I dont have another disk drive to put the iso I have in, I only have the one drive, the laptop does not have a Floppy drive. Any suggestions? Whenever I try and use any setup commands I get invalid media trying to read disk Win98 cd's at least legit ones are generally bootable so you do not need a floppy WRONG!!! Where do you get that? Find me one and describe the label. Bet it didn't come from Microsoft. Bet it was built by some OEM, and probably specifically for laptops, at that. But not even Microsoft's generic "OEM" CD, the one sent out with whitebox builds and smaller OEMs, is bootable. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com |
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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ... "philo" wrote in message ... "xskarmah" wrote in message ... I got a laptop free and wanted to install 98 on it, a clean install for my nephew. I burned a bootcd, and managed to format and partition it, my trouble starts because I dont have another disk drive to put the iso I have in, I only have the one drive, the laptop does not have a Floppy drive. Any suggestions? Whenever I try and use any setup commands I get invalid media trying to read disk Win98 cd's at least legit ones are generally bootable so you do not need a floppy WRONG!!! Where do you get that? Find me one and describe the label. Bet it didn't come from Microsoft. Bet it was built by some OEM, and probably specifically for laptops, at that. But not even Microsoft's generic "OEM" CD, the one sent out with whitebox builds and smaller OEMs, is bootable. That's weird I just setup a machine a few days ago and the Win98 cd was bootable. As I post this I have just confirmed that my win98 cd is bootable. I have the license and everything. Though it does not say OEM on it... it must be one though. Here is what is says: Microsoft Windows 98 for PC's without Windows. I have a whole box of similar cd's that came from the many desktops I've scrapped out... none came from laptops and as far as I know, they are all bootable. At least when I do setup a win98 machine I've never yet pulled one out of the box that did not boot. The only exception was a win98 upgrade cd, that I assume was supposed to be installed from within an existing OS or with a boot floppy. So if most win98 cd's are not bootable then I am wrong!!!! but all I can say is the ones I have come from Microsoft and do not have the name of any mfg on them but they do indeed say : for PC's without windows. So what's the deal? |
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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
Sounds like Microsoft's generic OEM CDs you got there. Would blow my socks
off to find out they're bootable. I can't recall one instance of such a disc. I do recall such with WIN95 discs. Oh well, unless someone else can clarify... I'll dig through a couple of places and see if I have one or two handy. But non-bootable is the standard AFAIK. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "philo" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ... "philo" wrote in message ... "xskarmah" wrote in message ... I got a laptop free and wanted to install 98 on it, a clean install for my nephew. I burned a bootcd, and managed to format and partition it, my trouble starts because I dont have another disk drive to put the iso I have in, I only have the one drive, the laptop does not have a Floppy drive. Any suggestions? Whenever I try and use any setup commands I get invalid media trying to read disk Win98 cd's at least legit ones are generally bootable so you do not need a floppy WRONG!!! Where do you get that? Find me one and describe the label. Bet it didn't come from Microsoft. Bet it was built by some OEM, and probably specifically for laptops, at that. But not even Microsoft's generic "OEM" CD, the one sent out with whitebox builds and smaller OEMs, is bootable. That's weird I just setup a machine a few days ago and the Win98 cd was bootable. As I post this I have just confirmed that my win98 cd is bootable. I have the license and everything. Though it does not say OEM on it... it must be one though. Here is what is says: Microsoft Windows 98 for PC's without Windows. I have a whole box of similar cd's that came from the many desktops I've scrapped out... none came from laptops and as far as I know, they are all bootable. At least when I do setup a win98 machine I've never yet pulled one out of the box that did not boot. The only exception was a win98 upgrade cd, that I assume was supposed to be installed from within an existing OS or with a boot floppy. So if most win98 cd's are not bootable then I am wrong!!!! but all I can say is the ones I have come from Microsoft and do not have the name of any mfg on them but they do indeed say : for PC's without windows. So what's the deal? |
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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ... Sounds like Microsoft's generic OEM CDs you got there. Would blow my socks off to find out they're bootable. I can't recall one instance of such a disc. I do recall such with WIN95 discs. Oh well, unless someone else can clarify... I'll dig through a couple of places and see if I have one or two handy. But non-bootable is the standard AFAIK. You are probably right... because if something is in my house...it's more than likely totally non-standard G Well I never saw a bootable win95 cd OTOH: ...I don't think I ever tried to boot with one. Now I may have to tear my house apart to find a cd that does not say: for PC's without windows... I could swear I had some but I doubt I'll find any now that I want to. Good thing it's way past my bedtime and I'm falling asleep or I'd test all my win98 cd's to see if they boot ! |
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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
On Sat, 3 May 2008 19:30:07 -0500, "philo" put
finger to keyboard and composed: "xskarmah" wrote in message ... I got a laptop free and wanted to install 98 on it, a clean install for my nephew. I burned a bootcd, and managed to format and partition it, my trouble starts because I dont have another disk drive to put the iso I have in, I only have the one drive, the laptop does not have a Floppy drive. Any suggestions? Whenever I try and use any setup commands I get invalid media trying to read disk Win98 cd's at least legit ones are generally bootable so you do not need a floppy This URL suggests that Win98 CDs were not bootable: http://www.webtree.ca/newlife/posts/win98_editions.htm - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message ... On Sat, 3 May 2008 19:30:07 -0500, "philo" put finger to keyboard and composed: "xskarmah" wrote in message ... I got a laptop free and wanted to install 98 on it, a clean install for my nephew. I burned a bootcd, and managed to format and partition it, my trouble starts because I dont have another disk drive to put the iso I have in, I only have the one drive, the laptop does not have a Floppy drive. Any suggestions? Whenever I try and use any setup commands I get invalid media trying to read disk Win98 cd's at least legit ones are generally bootable so you do not need a floppy This URL suggests that Win98 CDs were not bootable: http://www.webtree.ca/newlife/posts/win98_editions.htm I am still looking to see if I have any non-oem cd's but I now think that I was wrong when I said they were bootable. Though the win98cd's I have are bootable...all the one's I have found are "generic" OEM cd's that were to "be used only with a new PC" |
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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
What little other info I could find (besides what Franc found) suggests that
at some point they did start making OEM copies bootable. But while my experience with OEM copies is limited, and my memory sucks BIG TIME, I do recall using several and don't recall them being bootable, but then, when you boil out how many times I actually used one for Setup.... Fact is, my standard setup starts with copying the WIN98 directory to the HD and otherwise using a bootable floppy (or CD version of same) (and/or BING) to prepare the disk(s) and SYS the boot drive. After that, no discs are involved. I wonder... When shopping for a copy of XP, I found a "system builder's" version that seems to be something different than the OEM versions, though I'm not certain what difference there might be except in license (IIRC once the SB build is installed, it may never be installed again on any except the exact same hardware. No wiggle room.) I don't know the provenance of your machines, but if they come mostly from large industrial/commercial sources... Perhaps there's such a thing as an SB version of Win98SE? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "philo" wrote in message ... "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message ... On Sat, 3 May 2008 19:30:07 -0500, "philo" put finger to keyboard and composed: "xskarmah" wrote in message ... I got a laptop free and wanted to install 98 on it, a clean install for my nephew. I burned a bootcd, and managed to format and partition it, my trouble starts because I dont have another disk drive to put the iso I have in, I only have the one drive, the laptop does not have a Floppy drive. Any suggestions? Whenever I try and use any setup commands I get invalid media trying to read disk Win98 cd's at least legit ones are generally bootable so you do not need a floppy This URL suggests that Win98 CDs were not bootable: http://www.webtree.ca/newlife/posts/win98_editions.htm I am still looking to see if I have any non-oem cd's but I now think that I was wrong when I said they were bootable. Though the win98cd's I have are bootable...all the one's I have found are "generic" OEM cd's that were to "be used only with a new PC" |
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having trouble installing win98 on a laptop with no os
"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ... What little other info I could find (besides what Franc found) suggests that at some point they did start making OEM copies bootable. But while my experience with OEM copies is limited, and my memory sucks BIG TIME, I do recall using several and don't recall them being bootable, but then, when you boil out how many times I actually used one for Setup.... Fact is, my standard setup starts with copying the WIN98 directory to the HD and otherwise using a bootable floppy (or CD version of same) (and/or BING) to prepare the disk(s) and SYS the boot drive. After that, no discs are involved. I wonder... When shopping for a copy of XP, I found a "system builder's" version that seems to be something different than the OEM versions, though I'm not certain what difference there might be except in license (IIRC once the SB build is installed, it may never be installed again on any except the exact same hardware. No wiggle room.) I don't know the provenance of your machines, but if they come mostly from large industrial/commercial sources... Perhaps there's such a thing as an SB version of Win98SE? Interesting. Basically the machines I get could be anything. I scrounge them up from where-ever I can get them. Individuals, offices and junk piles..you name it. I still have many of the Certificate of Authenticity booklets for the bootable win98 cd's and the ones I have are from either Gateway, Compaq or HP... and they all are just generic Microsoft cd's for win98se. Though the books have different manufacturer names on them... the one thing is common is all of then have the same number in the lower left hand portion of the cover : X04-15747 and appear to have been printed in 1999. Or at least that is the newest copyright date I can find anywhere. Well one thing I know I will not ever be doing ...is going with the "system builder's" version of XP...I change my hardware continuously. I am now using my Win2k machine...which is the one I seem to use most often. The HD in here has been transplanted into different machines at least 4 times now over a period of many years. Though it requires a repair install...it just keeps going without and problems. |
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