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Old December 12th 04, 05:21 PM
Ben B
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Default RAM Sticks - Adding...

Hello,

With 128MB in the first slot (DIMM) and wishing to add a
further 256MB, on a Dell Dimension 4100 with a Pentium lll
933mhz, do I need to remove the 128MB and install the 256
in the first slot?

Thank you.

Ben.
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Old December 12th 04, 05:50 PM
Noel Paton
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Check with Dell - but I'd say, Yes.

You may well also find that the new RAM doesn't play well with the old
stuff - and have to get a second one (preferably from the same batch) to
complete the upgrade properly.

Mix-and-match with RAM doesn't work all that well, despite the claims of
numerous vendors.

--
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"Ben B" wrote in message
...
Hello,

With 128MB in the first slot (DIMM) and wishing to add a
further 256MB, on a Dell Dimension 4100 with a Pentium lll
933mhz, do I need to remove the 128MB and install the 256
in the first slot?

Thank you.

Ben.



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Old December 12th 04, 06:02 PM
Ben B
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My thanks, Noel. Snowing now?

Ben, in beautiful BC, with clear skies almost all the time!

-----Original Message-----
Check with Dell - but I'd say, Yes.

You may well also find that the new RAM doesn't play well

with the old
stuff - and have to get a second one (preferably from the

same batch) to
complete the upgrade properly.

Mix-and-match with RAM doesn't work all that well,

despite the claims of
numerous vendors.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post

messages to NG's

"Ben B" wrote in

message
...
Hello,

With 128MB in the first slot (DIMM) and wishing to add a
further 256MB, on a Dell Dimension 4100 with a Pentium

lll
933mhz, do I need to remove the 128MB and install the

256
in the first slot?

Thank you.

Ben.



.

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Old December 12th 04, 06:09 PM
Noel Paton
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NP, Ben - no, although they've been threatening it for weeks in the
forecasts!
This area very rarely gets any snow - it takes a number of things all
happening at the same time for such fun!!

Good Luck

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
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"Ben B" wrote in message
...
My thanks, Noel. Snowing now?

Ben, in beautiful BC, with clear skies almost all the time!

-----Original Message-----
Check with Dell - but I'd say, Yes.

You may well also find that the new RAM doesn't play well

with the old
stuff - and have to get a second one (preferably from the

same batch) to
complete the upgrade properly.

Mix-and-match with RAM doesn't work all that well,

despite the claims of
numerous vendors.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post

messages to NG's

"Ben B" wrote in

message
...
Hello,

With 128MB in the first slot (DIMM) and wishing to add a
further 256MB, on a Dell Dimension 4100 with a Pentium

lll
933mhz, do I need to remove the 128MB and install the

256
in the first slot?

Thank you.

Ben.



.



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Old December 13th 04, 01:39 AM
Ron Martell
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"Ben B" wrote:

My thanks, Noel. Snowing now?

Ben, in beautiful BC, with clear skies almost all the time!


Snow, what is that? Around here all we get is an occasional outbreak
of white fungus on the trees at higher elevations.

Ron, on an island in the Pacific (Vancouver Island, that is).


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
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Old December 14th 04, 01:36 PM
Jack E Martinelli
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Last week, I was asked to improve, at minimal cost, a PIII / 700 MHz machine
running WinME, with only 96 MB of physical memory. Needless to say, this is
a stressed Win ME environment! MS System Monitor's "Swapfile in use"
reported over 20MB of size, immediately after startup, for a minimal boot.

The box was almost ancient, with a very old Intel chipset. Since the
necessary PC100/133 SDRAM is now almost twice as expensive as PC2700 DDR, it
was with some trepidation that I plunged and bought a 256MB module. My fear
was that the Intel chipset would not support more than 256 MB total memory,
and perhaps not more than 128MB in either of the two memory slots.
However, the new module was recognized and adding the original 64 MB module
to the remaining slot afforded a total of 320 MB. Very good!
The box worked also with the 32MB module, instead of the 64 one.
This suggests that another 256MB would work fine, but such size, total
memory = 512MB, is probably unnecessary for the anticipated use of the box.

Aside: I first like to install any new memory module alone to confirm that
it works fine. Then I add the remaining original modules, slots permitting,
to maximize the physical memory. In this present case, the three modules
worked fine together. That is often not the case!
The order of adding the modules made no difference for this box.

The chipset, and its driver, are typically the bottlenecks in these older
systems, when increasing the memory.

Eg., an even older system from several years ago, would not accept more than
16MB in each of its two slots. Nevertheless, it ran Win98 --- slowly, but
adequate for AOL8 and word processing for an 80-year old. ( I convinced
her to migrate to WinME on another, newer box to obtain SR to repair more
easily her many self-inflicted mistakes. Much better.)

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Ben B" wrote in message
...
Hello,

With 128MB in the first slot (DIMM) and wishing to add a
further 256MB, on a Dell Dimension 4100 with a Pentium lll
933mhz, do I need to remove the 128MB and install the 256
in the first slot?

Thank you.

Ben.



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Old December 17th 04, 09:08 PM
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Hello Ron,

Compliments of the season to you.

Ben, in Shawnigan.
-----Original Message-----
"Ben B" wrote:

My thanks, Noel. Snowing now?

Ben, in beautiful BC, with clear skies almost all the

time!


Snow, what is that? Around here all we get is an

occasional outbreak
of white fungus on the trees at higher elevations.

Ron, on an island in the Pacific (Vancouver Island, that

is).


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers

don't eat much."
.

  #8  
Old December 17th 04, 09:11 PM
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Thanks Jack,

It made not hoot of difference for me either (or my
friend) but I like your self-install routine.

Compliments.

Ben.

-----Original Message-----
Last week, I was asked to improve, at minimal cost, a

PIII / 700 MHz machine
running WinME, with only 96 MB of physical memory.

Needless to say, this is
a stressed Win ME environment! MS System

Monitor's "Swapfile in use"
reported over 20MB of size, immediately after startup,

for a minimal boot.

The box was almost ancient, with a very old Intel

chipset. Since the
necessary PC100/133 SDRAM is now almost twice as

expensive as PC2700 DDR, it
was with some trepidation that I plunged and bought a

256MB module. My fear
was that the Intel chipset would not support more than

256 MB total memory,
and perhaps not more than 128MB in either of the two

memory slots.
However, the new module was recognized and adding the

original 64 MB module
to the remaining slot afforded a total of 320 MB. Very

good!
The box worked also with the 32MB module, instead of the

64 one.
This suggests that another 256MB would work fine, but

such size, total
memory = 512MB, is probably unnecessary for the

anticipated use of the box.

Aside: I first like to install any new memory module

alone to confirm that
it works fine. Then I add the remaining original

modules, slots permitting,
to maximize the physical memory. In this present case,

the three modules
worked fine together. That is often not the case!
The order of adding the modules made no difference for

this box.

The chipset, and its driver, are typically the

bottlenecks in these older
systems, when increasing the memory.

Eg., an even older system from several years ago, would

not accept more than
16MB in each of its two slots. Nevertheless, it ran

Win98 --- slowly, but
adequate for AOL8 and word processing for an 80-year

old. ( I convinced
her to migrate to WinME on another, newer box to obtain

SR to repair more
easily her many self-inflicted mistakes. Much better.)

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for

Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...tect/default.a

spx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Ben B" wrote in

message
...
Hello,

With 128MB in the first slot (DIMM) and wishing to add a
further 256MB, on a Dell Dimension 4100 with a Pentium

lll
933mhz, do I need to remove the 128MB and install the

256
in the first slot?

Thank you.

Ben.



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