Hard Drive Size Limitation

The first issue is will your motherboard's BIOS support drives larger than
137Gb? That was the limit until recently.

If your BIOS will see it then for ME to see it you will have to run FDISK
and break it into pieces - the 137Gb still will be a limiting factor if you
want to see it as one piece.

I rememebr seeing drivers posted, don't remember where, that will allow 98,
SE, and ME to see drives larger than 137Gb. I can only recommend a Google
search to see if they are stilla round somewhere.

"Deepak" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am wondering if I upgrade my IDE drive to a size of 160GB or 200GB, will
Windows ME have any limitation in accessing the space?

I vaguely recall an issue with ME or perhaps WIN 98 not being able to
manage
the larger driver sizes.

Thanks!

Hi,

I am wondering if I upgrade my IDE drive to a size of 160GB or 200GB, will
Windows ME have any limitation in accessing the space?

I vaguely recall an issue with ME or perhaps WIN 98 not being able to manage
the larger driver sizes.

Thanks!

"Jerry1" wrote:
The first issue is will your motherboard's BIOS support drives
larger than
137Gb? That was the limit until recently.

If your BIOS will see it then for ME to see it you will have
to run FDISK
and break it into pieces - the 137Gb still will be a limiting
factor if you
want to see it as one piece.

I rememebr seeing drivers posted, don't remember where, that
will allow 98,
SE, and ME to see drives larger than 137Gb. I can only
recommend a Google
search to see if they are stilla round somewhere.

"Deepak" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am wondering if I upgrade my IDE drive to a size of 160GB
or 200GB, will
Windows ME have any limitation in accessing the space?

I vaguely recall an issue with ME or perhaps WIN 98 not
being able to
manage
the larger driver sizes.

Thanks!



I have written a Patch for Windows 98, 98SE and ME that supports Hard
Drives larger than 137GB. You will need BIOS support for large Hard
Drives or a Boot Manager that provides support. Individual partitions
must be smaller than 127GB as some of the Windows tools cannot handle
larger partitions.

A demo of my Patch is on my website http://members.aol.com/rloew1 or
can be download from Simtel. It is called the "High Capacity Disk
Patch"

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Shame that it won't run under ME - you might want to read up on the
differences between ME and Win98 before posting such supposed 'fixes' to the
unsuspecting public!!

Besides which , there are 'official' patches which do the same thing.
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"RLoew" wrote in message
...
"Jerry1" wrote:
The first issue is will your motherboard's BIOS support drives
larger than
137Gb? That was the limit until recently.

If your BIOS will see it then for ME to see it you will have
to run FDISK
and break it into pieces - the 137Gb still will be a limiting
factor if you
want to see it as one piece.

I rememebr seeing drivers posted, don't remember where, that
will allow 98,
SE, and ME to see drives larger than 137Gb. I can only
recommend a Google
search to see if they are stilla round somewhere.

"Deepak" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am wondering if I upgrade my IDE drive to a size of 160GB
or 200GB, will
Windows ME have any limitation in accessing the space?

I vaguely recall an issue with ME or perhaps WIN 98 not
being able to
manage
the larger driver sizes.

Thanks!



I have written a Patch for Windows 98, 98SE and ME that supports Hard
Drives larger than 137GB. You will need BIOS support for large Hard
Drives or a Boot Manager that provides support. Individual partitions
must be smaller than 127GB as some of the Windows tools cannot handle
larger partitions.

A demo of my Patch is on my website http://members.aol.com/rloew1 or
can be download from Simtel. It is called the "High Capacity Disk
Patch"

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"Noel Paton" wrote:
Shame that it won't run under ME - you might want to read up
on the
differences between ME and Win98 before posting such supposed
'fixes' to the
unsuspecting public!!

Besides which , there are 'official' patches which do the same
thing.
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"RLoew" wrote in message
...
"Jerry1" wrote:
  The first issue is will your motherboard's BIOS
support drives
  larger than
  137Gb? That was the limit until recently.
 
  If your BIOS will see it then for ME to see it you
will have
  to run FDISK
  and break it into pieces - the 137Gb still will be a
limiting
  factor if you
  want to see it as one piece.
 
  I rememebr seeing drivers posted, don't remember
where, that
  will allow 98,
  SE, and ME to see drives larger than 137Gb. I can
only
  recommend a Google
  search to see if they are stilla round somewhere.
 
  "Deepak" > wrote in
message
  ...
   Hi,
  
   I am wondering if I upgrade my IDE drive to
a size of 160GB
  or 200GB, will
   Windows ME have any limitation in accessing
the space?
  
   I vaguely recall an issue with ME or perhaps
WIN 98 not
  being able to
   manage
   the larger driver sizes.
  
   Thanks!
  
  

I have written a Patch for Windows 98, 98SE and ME that
supports Hard
Drives larger than 137GB. You will need BIOS support for
large Hard
Drives or a Boot Manager that provides support. Individual
partitions
must be smaller than 127GB as some of the Windows tools
cannot handle
larger partitions.

A demo of my Patch is on my website http://members.aol.com/rloew1 or
can be download from Simtel. It is called the "High Capacity
Disk
Patch"

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Dear Noel,

Apparently you haven’t run my Demo Version of the "High Capacity Disk
Patch". It works fine with Windows ME. I wouldn’t have listed Windows
ME or posted to this Topic if it didn’t. Some of the support features
don’t work under Windows ME but they are not required. No one who has
purchased the Full Version of my Patch for Windows ME has complained.
If anyone has any doubts, they can download the Demo Patch which
supports up to 145GB from http://members.aol.com/rloew1 or Simtel.

The only "official" patches are called "Windows 2000 and Windows
XP".

The Intel Application Accelerator is limited to certain Intel
Chipsets.

If you know of any Patches, post them.

Rudolph Loew


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Might I suggest that you prove your assertions first?

No - I haven't run your 'ix' - for the simple reason I don't have a very
large drive available

Also - most ME machines are limited not by the OS, but by the BIOS - which
you seem to neglect to mention

What good is increasing the available disk from ~130GB to ~ 145GB going to
do in today's world of 250GB++ drives?

Why would one want to have a drive that large in the first place, in a Win9x
system that can't cope with files greater than 4GB in size (on a good
day!)??

Your 'proven' do-hickey is snake-oil. (I'd be very pleased for you to prove
me wrong!!)


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"RLoew" wrote in message
...
Dear Noel,

Apparently you haven’t run my Demo Version of the "High Capacity Disk
Patch". It works fine with Windows ME. I wouldn’t have listed Windows
ME or posted to this Topic if it didn’t. Some of the support features
don’t work under Windows ME but they are not required. No one who has
purchased the Full Version of my Patch for Windows ME has complained.
If anyone has any doubts, they can download the Demo Patch which
supports up to 145GB from http://members.aol.com/rloew1 or Simtel.

The only "official" patches are called "Windows 2000 and Windows
XP".

The Intel Application Accelerator is limited to certain Intel
Chipsets.

If you know of any Patches, post them.

Rudolph Loew


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"Noel Paton" wrote:
Might I suggest that you prove your assertions first?

No - I haven't run your 'ix' - for the simple reason I don't
have a very
large drive available

Also - most ME machines are limited not by the OS, but by the
BIOS - which
you seem to neglect to mention

What good is increasing the available disk from ~130GB to ~
145GB going to
do in today's world of 250GB++ drives?

Why would one want to have a drive that large in the first
place, in a Win9x
system that can't cope with files greater than 4GB in size (on
a good
day!)??

Your 'proven' do-hickey is snake-oil. (I'd be very pleased
for you to prove
me wrong!!)


--
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"RLoew" wrote in message
...
Dear Noel,

Apparently you haven’t run my Demo Version of the "High
Capacity Disk
Patch". It works fine with Windows ME. I wouldn’t have
listed Windows
ME or posted to this Topic if it didn’t. Some of the support
features
don’t work under Windows ME but they are not required. No
one who has
purchased the Full Version of my Patch for Windows ME has
complained.
If anyone has any doubts, they can download the Demo Patch
which
supports up to 145GB from http://members.aol.com/rloew1 or Simtel.

The only "official" patches are called "Windows 2000 and
Windows
XP".

The Intel Application Accelerator is limited to certain
Intel
Chipsets.

If you know of any Patches, post them.

Rudolph Loew


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Dear Noel,

I’m not sure how you expect me to prove that my patch works. I’m not
going to publish my source code. The Demo IS the proof. You haven’t
posted anything that would indicate that the Patch wouldn’t work.

Borrow a large hard drive if you have to, and test the Demo, before
you make any more unwarranted accusations.

Many ME users have BIOSes that are not limited. You might want to
refer to my original post. I did state that BIOS support is required.
It is also in the README.TXT file in my Demo. Have you read it? I have
written a Boot Manager that provides the necessary support on machines
that do not have BIOS support.

The 145GB limit is only in the Demo version so people can verify that
the Patch works in their system before buying the full version. The
full version can support over 2000GB. I have several 250GB Hard Drives
that work just fine in Windows 98.

Apparently many people are interested in using large hard drives with
Windows 98 and ME. The Simtel mirror of my Demo has been downloaded
hundreds of times. I don’t think many people have a need for single
files larger than 4GB. DVD files can take up a lot of space but no
single file exceeds 1GB.

You sound like a Microsoftie that wants to discredit anything that
will allow people to stay with their existing Windows instead of being
forced to upgrade to Windows XP. Microsoft could have easily done this
Patch themselves but chose deliberately not to.

Rudolph R. Loew
rloew AT @ AT hotmail.com

http://members.aol.com/rloew1

"RLoew" wrote in message
...
"Noel Paton" wrote:
Might I suggest that you prove your assertions first?

No - I haven't run your 'ix' - for the simple reason I don't
have a very
large drive available

Also - most ME machines are limited not by the OS, but by the
BIOS - which
you seem to neglect to mention

What good is increasing the available disk from ~130GB to ~
145GB going to
do in today's world of 250GB++ drives?

Why would one want to have a drive that large in the first
place, in a Win9x
system that can't cope with files greater than 4GB in size (on
a good
day!)??

Your 'proven' do-hickey is snake-oil. (I'd be very pleased
for you to prove
me wrong!!)


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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Dear Noel,

I’m not sure how you expect me to prove that my patch works. I’m not
going to publish my source code. The Demo IS the proof. You haven’t
posted anything that would indicate that the Patch wouldn’t work.

Borrow a large hard drive if you have to, and test the Demo, before
you make any more unwarranted accusations.

Many ME users have BIOSes that are not limited. You might want to
refer to my original post. I did state that BIOS support is required.
It is also in the README.TXT file in my Demo. Have you read it? I have
written a Boot Manager that provides the necessary support on machines
that do not have BIOS support.

The 145GB limit is only in the Demo version so people can verify that
the Patch works in their system before buying the full version. The
full version can support over 2000GB. I have several 250GB Hard Drives
that work just fine in Windows 98.

Apparently many people are interested in using large hard drives with
Windows 98 and ME. The Simtel mirror of my Demo has been downloaded
hundreds of times. I don’t think many people have a need for single
files larger than 4GB. DVD files can take up a lot of space but no
single file exceeds 1GB.

You sound like a Microsoftie that wants to discredit anything that
will allow people to stay with their existing Windows instead of being
forced to upgrade to Windows XP. Microsoft could have easily done this
Patch themselves but chose deliberately not to.

Rudolph R. Loew
rloew AT @ AT hotmail.com

http://members.aol.com/rloew1

Personally, I never try to ascribe reasons to what decisions MS makes - it
give me too many headaches!

If you're getting DVD's only smaller than 1GB, then you are in trouble - a
full-length movie will be well over 4GB at full resolution.

As I said, I don't have access to large drives - and no need of them (yet) -
and I prefer, currently, to use a couple of smaller drives(40GB and 80GB) as
this box gets hammered, and it makes life a little easier if things go wrong
(and I'm not convinced of the stability/ruggedness of the first-generation
large drives yet). - Quite apart from which, I have no machine available
with BIOS-limited disks.
I would NEVER use as a System drive, a single-partition disk of more than
20GB - the risks are too high.For backups, etc, I can see uses for large
partitions, but for anything else, small partitions are much friendlier.

You may want to look at the phrasing on your download site, as what you are
saying above is not obvious there - and no, I didn't read the readme.txt
file (Why should I, unless I've already decided to install the thing?) You
need to make plain on the site what the full version can do, and what the
limitations of the Demo version are - and whether the demo version can be
upgraded *in situ* with the full version.


--
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"Noel Paton" wrote:
"RLoew" wrote in message
...
"Noel Paton" wrote:
  Might I suggest that you prove your assertions
first?
 
  No - I haven't run your 'ix' - for the simple reason
I don't
  have a very
  large drive available
 
  Also - most ME machines are limited not by the OS,
but by the
  BIOS - which
  you seem to neglect to mention
 
  What good is increasing the available disk from
~130GB to ~
  145GB going to
  do in today's world of 250GB++ drives?
 
  Why would one want to have a drive that large in the
first
  place, in a Win9x
  system that can't cope with files greater than 4GB
in size (on
  a good
  day!)??
 
  Your 'proven' do-hickey is snake-oil. (I'd be very
pleased
  for you to prove
  me wrong!!)
 
 
  --
  Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
 
  Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
  http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
  http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
 
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  messages to NG's
 
Dear Noel,

I’m not sure how you expect me to prove that my patch works.
I’m not
going to publish my source code. The Demo IS the proof. You
haven’t
posted anything that would indicate that the Patch wouldn’t
work.

Borrow a large hard drive if you have to, and test the Demo,
before
you make any more unwarranted accusations.

Many ME users have BIOSes that are not limited. You might
want to
refer to my original post. I did state that BIOS support is
required.
It is also in the README.TXT file in my Demo. Have you read
it? I have
written a Boot Manager that provides the necessary support
on machines
that do not have BIOS support.

The 145GB limit is only in the Demo version so people can
verify that
the Patch works in their system before buying the full
version. The
full version can support over 2000GB. I have several 250GB
Hard Drives
that work just fine in Windows 98.

Apparently many people are interested in using large hard
drives with
Windows 98 and ME. The Simtel mirror of my Demo has been
downloaded
hundreds of times. I don’t think many people have a need for
single
files larger than 4GB. DVD files can take up a lot of space
but no
single file exceeds 1GB.

You sound like a Microsoftie that wants to discredit
anything that
will allow people to stay with their existing Windows
instead of being
forced to upgrade to Windows XP. Microsoft could have easily
done this
Patch themselves but chose deliberately not to.

Rudolph R. Loew
rloew AT @ AT hotmail.com

http://members.aol.com/rloew1

Personally, I never try to ascribe reasons to what decisions
MS makes - it
give me too many headaches!

If you're getting DVD's only smaller than 1GB, then you are in
trouble - a
full-length movie will be well over 4GB at full resolution.

As I said, I don't have access to large drives - and no need
of them (yet) -
and I prefer, currently, to use a couple of smaller
drives(40GB and 80GB) as
this box gets hammered, and it makes life a little easier if
things go wrong
(and I'm not convinced of the stability/ruggedness of the
first-generation
large drives yet). - Quite apart from which, I have no machine
available
with BIOS-limited disks.
I would NEVER use as a System drive, a single-partition disk
of more than
20GB - the risks are too high.For backups, etc, I can see uses
for large
partitions, but for anything else, small partitions are much
friendlier.

You may want to look at the phrasing on your download site, as
what you are
saying above is not obvious there - and no, I didn't read the
readme.txt
file (Why should I, unless I've already decided to install the
thing?) You
need to make plain on the site what the full version can do,
and what the
limitations of the Demo version are - and whether the demo
version can be
upgraded *in situ* with the full version.


--
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DVDs consist of .VOB files that normally do not exceed 1.073GB. A full
length movie would consist of at least 4 of these. DVD software
usually allows you to set the maximum size of each file. There is
usually little need to create an image file of a DVD.

You may not be interested in using large hard drives, but many other
people are including the person who started this topic. That is why I
posted my first message.

I never specified how people should partition their hard drives. In
fact I specifically tell them not to create individual partitions
larger than 127GB.

As far as my web site is concerned, you must have not bothered to
click on the link to the Patch program. The limitations of the Demo
Program are listed there. A long discussion of installation details is
not appropriate for the web page. Anyone even remotely interested can
download the free Demo and read the README.TXT file.

If you are not interested in installing the Patch, don’t go to the
website, don’t read the README.TXT file, it would be a waste of your
time. But it makes you totally unqualified to criticize a program,
that other people are interested in, that you can’t be bothered to
investigate or test.

Rudolph R. Loew

"RLoew" wrote in message
...
DVDs consist of .VOB files that normally do not exceed 1.073GB. A full
length movie would consist of at least 4 of these. DVD software
usually allows you to set the maximum size of each file. There is
usually little need to create an image file of a DVD.

You may not be interested in using large hard drives, but many other
people are including the person who started this topic. That is why I
posted my first message.

I never specified how people should partition their hard drives. In
fact I specifically tell them not to create individual partitions
larger than 127GB.

As far as my web site is concerned, you must have not bothered to
click on the link to the Patch program. The limitations of the Demo
Program are listed there. A long discussion of installation details is
not appropriate for the web page. Anyone even remotely interested can
download the free Demo and read the README.TXT file.

If you are not interested in installing the Patch, don’t go to the
website, don’t read the README.TXT file, it would be a waste of your
time. But it makes you totally unqualified to criticize a program,
that other people are interested in, that you can’t be bothered to
investigate or test.

Rudolph R. Loew


Granted - it' possible to manipulate DVD file-size (but only for the
experienced user).

The point that I was trying to make about your site, is simply that, if you
really want people to download it, you should explain EXACTLY what it does,
rather than some wishy-washy guff that only describes the (demo-only)
limits.
People looking for such a patch are going to see that page - and then look
elsewhere for a better option, without downloading the demo.
Yes - I did follow the patch link - that's the one I am commenting on!

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