Can you help please?

"Sanity Clause" wrote in message
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"Emrys Davies" wrote:

Thanks Sanity. Very interesting. We are still working on mine and
hopefully we will succeed although the PC is old and decrepit.

Yeah, so is mine...
Built in 2000, Pentium 3, 866mhz, 512Mb ram, 20Gb HD, 98SE, Kernelex.
Still plenty zippy for the things I do.

I was actually hoping for some answers to the questions....

Ctrl + Alt + Delete would show a list of currently running programs, to
see
if there's something there that's sucking up all your memory + speed.

This showed: Explorer, Rnaapp, Systray, Qttask, Rsrcmtr and Weshots.

98guy's "autoruns" does something similar, since many programs run
invisibly in the background and can also turn your PC into a slug...
always-on virus scanners that check *every* program *every* time you
open them, CPU cycle thieves like file indexers, and yes, old viruses.

Properties of the Google icon would show what browser is actually being
opened to access Google. I'm assuming the same IE that "doesn't get used"?

I do not follow this reasoning. This is Internet Properties and it shows
the Home Page as http://www.google.co.uk. Where will it show which browser
is being used to open google?

"Emrys Davies" wrote:

This showed:

Explorer
- Shows the desktop, lets you access files, etc, etc. Pretty much runs everything.

Rnaapp
- Loaded when you're using "dial-up networking". Used with your style of connection,
where it needs a user name and password to connect each time.

Systray
- Bottom right, contains icons for the clock, volume, some programs, etc.

Qttask
- Apple's Quicktime player; links to the Quicktime video streaming tool.
Not a big CPU or memory hog, but it doesn't really need to be running, unless
you use the Quicktime player all the time.

Rsrcmtr
- Resource meter. I assume you have green "meter" bars by the clock, and holding
the mouse over it shows the percentage of 3 types of Resources available?
It uses some of your limited resources itself, of course. (Not the same as memory!)
I only run it manually, on the odd occasion when my system is being unusually flaky.
With Outlook Express, Firefox, and IE running, I see:
System: 65% User 72% GDI 65%

and Weshots
- I think you mean weBshots, the screensaver / wallpaper / photo manager program.

Properties of the Google icon would show what browser is actually being
opened to access Google. I'm assuming the same IE that "doesn't get used"?

I do not follow this reasoning. This is Internet Properties and it shows
the Home Page as http://www.google.co.uk.

Internet Properties is what pops up when looking at the "default" browser for
most versions of Windows, which is IE.

Where will it show which browser is being used to open google?

With it running, the top of the window should have a menu. At the right end is Help.
Click it, and the bottom of that list will be "About..." and the browser's name.

So far, nothing in *this* list should cause big slowdowns or "not enough memory"
messages, in English or German.

Sanity Clause wrote:

(task manager)

Task manager is for **** in this situation.

For example, right now task manager shows 10 running processes on my
win-98 machine.

Now you take a program like CCTask - it shows 18 running processes.

Norton System Information (SI32.exe) tells me 18 processes using a
combined 123 mb of ram.

Here is a download link for si32.zip:

http://www.filedropper.com/si32

If Davies runs it, it will tell him exactly what programs are loaded and
how much ram they're using. And it can save that info to a text file.

The OP's problem with IE is almost certainly being caused by a browser
helper object, url search hook, a toolbar or extension. Any one of
which would be visible with autoruns if he knew how to scroll down the
display or click on the IE tab.

It appears (from the portion of the autoruns screen that he did capture)
that he has paperport index search configured to auto-run at startup, as
well as quicktime and "Webshots". It also looks like he had Belarc
Advisor installed at one time.

"Sanity Clause" wrote in message
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"Emrys Davies" wrote:

This showed:

Explorer
- Shows the desktop, lets you access files, etc, etc. Pretty much runs
everything.

Rnaapp
- Loaded when you're using "dial-up networking". Used with your style of
connection,
where it needs a user name and password to connect each time.

Systray
- Bottom right, contains icons for the clock, volume, some programs, etc.

Qttask
- Apple's Quicktime player; links to the Quicktime video streaming tool.
Not a big CPU or memory hog, but it doesn't really need to be running,
unless
you use the Quicktime player all the time.

Rsrcmtr
- Resource meter. I assume you have green "meter" bars by the clock, and
holding
the mouse over it shows the percentage of 3 types of Resources available?
It uses some of your limited resources itself, of course. (Not the same
as memory!)
I only run it manually, on the odd occasion when my system is being
unusually flaky.
With Outlook Express, Firefox, and IE running, I see:
System: 65% User 72% GDI 65%

With OE, IE and Google running I see:

System 76%
User 76%
GDI 86%

and Weshots
- I think you mean weBshots, the screensaver / wallpaper / photo manager
program.

Properties of the Google icon would show what browser is actually being
opened to access Google. I'm assuming the same IE that "doesn't get
used"?

I do not follow this reasoning. This is Internet Properties and it shows
the Home Page as http://www.google.co.uk.

Internet Properties is what pops up when looking at the "default" browser
for
most versions of Windows, which is IE.

Where will it show which browser is being used to open google?

With it running, the top of the window should have a menu. At the right
end is Help.
Click it, and the bottom of that list will be "About..." and the
browser's name.

So far, nothing in *this* list should cause big slowdowns or "not enough
memory"
messages, in English or German.

The language for this PC has always been in English (UK) and I cannot
understand how the German language ( Zu wenig Arbeitsspeicher) on that
little window which opens with IE and Google (See my first post) has crept
into the machine. It does not show in the registry (regedit), except when I
refer to it in these posts.

"98 Guy" wrote:

Task manager is for **** in this situation.

Pretty much, yeah. But if there's a "Zxjelptr" or similar in the list, then there just
may be an obvious problem.

And, I like to start slow with the basics until I know how tech-savvy the helpee is,
so I avoid overwhelming him/her and getting replies like: "I know when I am lost
and this is such an occasion and I am going to bow out gracefully at this moment."

For example, right now task manager shows 10 running processes on my
win-98 machine.

I feel deprived. I only have 8

Now you take a program like CCTask - it shows 18 running processes.

Same as my Process Explorer by Sysinternals.

The OP's problem with IE is almost certainly being caused by a browser
helper object, url search hook, a toolbar or extension.

That's what I was thinking too. Wondering about his "FunWebproducts".
I don't trust any of that "Free Fun Stuff! Download NOW NOW NOW!!!!".

In message , Emrys Davies
writes:
[]
Explorer
- Shows the desktop, lets you access files, etc, etc. Pretty much
runs everything.

Yes, to a first approximation, Explorer and Systray will always be
there.

Rnaapp
- Loaded when you're using "dial-up networking". Used with your
style of connection,
where it needs a user name and password to connect each time.
[]
Qttask
- Apple's Quicktime player; links to the Quicktime video streaming tool.
Not a big CPU or memory hog, but it doesn't really need to be
running, unless
you use the Quicktime player all the time.

I'd agree, worth turning off from always-running, if you can figure out
how.

Rsrcmtr
- Resource meter. I assume you have green "meter" bars by the clock,
and holding
the mouse over it shows the percentage of 3 types of Resources available?
It uses some of your limited resources itself, of course. (Not the
same as memory!)
I only run it manually, on the odd occasion when my system is being
unusually flaky.

I find the amount is uses is not enough to worry about for the
convenience it yields.

With Outlook Express, Firefox, and IE running, I see:
System: 65% User 72% GDI 65%

With OE, IE and Google running I see:

System 76%
User 76%
GDI 86%

So only a little more than Sanity's, except for the GDI. (_Might_ be
worth reducing your screen to 256 colours - certainly to 16 bit if it's
24 or 32. Not _sure_ if that'll change the GDI though. But IMO still
worth doing, unless you spend a lot of time looking at pictures. [You do
it in the same window already discussed where you found the screen
resolution; ask if you need guidance.])

(You don't have Google "running", by the way, assuming you mean the
Google search engine page is visible. You have a browser window open -
may be a second instancce of IE, if you've already got an instance of
that open as you imply, or may be something else. See below.)

and Weshots
- I think you mean weBshots, the screensaver / wallpaper / photo
manager program.

Again, _probably_ worth stopping from running all the time, though again
not (IIRR) a big hog.

Properties of the Google icon would show what browser is actually being
opened to access Google. I'm assuming the same IE that "doesn't
get used"?

I do not follow this reasoning. This is Internet Properties and it shows
the Home Page as http://www.google.co.uk.

Internet Properties is what pops up when looking at the "default"
browser for
most versions of Windows, which is IE.

Yes, but isn't a property of the shortcut, which just contains a URL, so
Emrys was right here (-:.

Where will it show which browser is being used to open google?

With it running, the top of the window should have a menu. At the
right end is Help.
Click it, and the bottom of that list will be "About..." and the
browser's name.

Or, more simply, at the top left of the window there'll be an icon; if
it's a blue e, then IE is being used. (But Help | About will show for
sure.)

So far, nothing in *this* list should cause big slowdowns or "not
enough memory"
messages, in English or German.

The language for this PC has always been in English (UK) and I cannot
understand how the German language ( Zu wenig Arbeitsspeicher) on that
little window which opens with IE and Google (See my first post) has

If it's appearing on both "Google" and IE, then it suggests that IE _is_
your default browser (so is what's being opened when you activate your
Google icon).

crept into the machine. It does not show in the registry (regedit),
except when I refer to it in these posts.

I think IE can be set to a different language to that under which the
machine is running. Start Settings Control Panel Internet Options
(which actually means IE settings) will probably have in it, somewhere,
"select language from system settings" or something like that, which it
sounds as if you've somehow deselected, which would have enabled a
drop-down list. (I can't check as I've run IERadicator on my '98
machine, so Internet Options doesn't actually do anything.)

If you _want_ Firefox to be the default browser, and have somehow turned
off the check within Firefox, then (within Firefox) Tools | Options |
Main has at its bottom a checkbox "Always check to see if Firefox is the
default browser on startup", and a button next to it "Check Now". (Here
startup means Firefox startup, not Windows startup.) That's for Firefox
2, but it isn't that different in later versions: in 25, for example,
it's Tools | Options | Advanced | General (and it doesn't have the
button, so tick it, OK, then close and reopen Firefox).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Solution: a more subtle problem

Emrys Davies wrote:
This is Internet Properties and it shows the Home Page as
http://www.google.co.uk. Where will it show which browser
is being used to open google?

Simple: it may be called "Internet Properties" but in reality it is the
settings for Microsoft's Internet Explorer and nothing else. So if any
program abides by those settings, then we all know what program that is.
Quite apart from thatwhenever I view a website in any of my browsers,
its top bar clearly shows and names the running browser. No guesswork or
reasing involved.

"Axel Berger" wrote in message
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Emrys Davies wrote:
This is Internet Properties and it shows the Home Page as
http://www.google.co.uk. Where will it show which browser
is being used to open google?

Simple: it may be called "Internet Properties" but in reality it is the
settings for Microsoft's Internet Explorer and nothing else. So if any
program abides by those settings, then we all know what program that is.
Quite apart from thatwhenever I view a website in any of my browsers,
its top bar clearly shows and names the running browser. No guesswork or
reasing involved.

Thanks, I follow that. I had always got the impression that Google
supported itself and now, thanks to the discussion on here, I realize that
it is opened by my one and only browser, IE. Google is the Home Page
because my wife does most of her work from there and OE.

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , Emrys Davies
writes:
[]
Explorer
- Shows the desktop, lets you access files, etc, etc. Pretty much runs
everything.

Yes, to a first approximation, Explorer and Systray will always be there.

Rnaapp
- Loaded when you're using "dial-up networking". Used with your style
of connection,
where it needs a user name and password to connect each time.
[]
Qttask
- Apple's Quicktime player; links to the Quicktime video streaming tool.
Not a big CPU or memory hog, but it doesn't really need to be running,
unless
you use the Quicktime player all the time.

I'd agree, worth turning off from always-running, if you can figure out
how.

I have turned this off.

Rsrcmtr
- Resource meter. I assume you have green "meter" bars by the clock, and
holding
the mouse over it shows the percentage of 3 types of Resources
available?
It uses some of your limited resources itself, of course. (Not the same
as memory!)
I only run it manually, on the odd occasion when my system is being
unusually flaky.

I find the amount is uses is not enough to worry about for the convenience
it yields.

With Outlook Express, Firefox, and IE running, I see:
System: 65% User 72% GDI 65%

With OE, IE and Google running I see:

System 76%
User 76%
GDI 86%

So only a little more than Sanity's, except for the GDI. (_Might_ be worth
reducing your screen to 256 colours - certainly to 16 bit if it's 24 or
32. Not _sure_ if that'll change the GDI though. But IMO still worth
doing, unless you spend a lot of time looking at pictures. [You do it in
the same window already discussed where you found the screen resolution;
ask if you need guidance.])

(You don't have Google "running", by the way, assuming you mean the Google
search engine page is visible. You have a browser window open - may be a
second instancce of IE, if you've already got an instance of that open as
you imply, or may be something else. See below.)

and Weshots
- I think you mean weBshots, the screensaver / wallpaper / photo manager
program.

Again, _probably_ worth stopping from running all the time, though again
not (IIRR) a big hog.

I have also turned this off.

Properties of the Google icon would show what browser is actually
being
opened to access Google. I'm assuming the same IE that "doesn't get
used"?

I do not follow this reasoning. This is Internet Properties and it
shows
the Home Page as http://www.google.co.uk.

Internet Properties is what pops up when looking at the "default"
browser for
most versions of Windows, which is IE.

Yes, but isn't a property of the shortcut, which just contains a URL, so
Emrys was right here (-:.

Where will it show which browser is being used to open google?

With it running, the top of the window should have a menu. At the right
end is Help.
Click it, and the bottom of that list will be "About..." and the
browser's name.

Or, more simply, at the top left of the window there'll be an icon; if
it's a blue e, then IE is being used. (But Help | About will show for
sure.)

So far, nothing in *this* list should cause big slowdowns or "not enough
memory"
messages, in English or German.

The language for this PC has always been in English (UK) and I cannot
understand how the German language ( Zu wenig Arbeitsspeicher) on that
little window which opens with IE and Google (See my first post) has

If it's appearing on both "Google" and IE, then it suggests that IE _is_
your default browser (so is what's being opened when you activate your
Google icon).

crept into the machine. It does not show in the registry (regedit),
except when I refer to it in these posts.

I think IE can be set to a different language to that under which the
machine is running. Start Settings Control Panel Internet Options
(which actually means IE settings) will probably have in it, somewhere,
"select language from system settings" or something like that, which it
sounds as if you've somehow deselected, which would have enabled a
drop-down list. (I can't check as I've run IERadicator on my '98 machine,
so Internet Options doesn't actually do anything.)

English (United Kingdom) [en-gb] is definitely the language used on here.
When I highlight the former it says: 'Menus and dialog boxes are currently
displayed in English (United States)'.


If you _want_ Firefox to be the default browser, and have somehow turned
off the check within Firefox, then (within Firefox) Tools | Options | Main
has at its bottom a checkbox "Always check to see if Firefox is the
default browser on startup", and a button next to it "Check Now". (Here
startup means Firefox startup, not Windows startup.) That's for Firefox 2,
but it isn't that different in later versions: in 25, for example, it's
Tools | Options | Advanced | General (and it doesn't have the button, so
tick it, OK, then close and reopen Firefox).

Firefox cannot be downloaded onto this machine. I have tried many, many
times using the old Win. 98 SE version and it rejects all my efforts.

J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Solution: a more subtle problem

Emrys Davies wrote:

Firefox cannot be downloaded onto this machine.

What a silly statement.

Of course it can. Even in it's present state it can.

I have tried many, many times using the old Win. 98 SE version
and it rejects all my efforts.

You've shown time and time again if there's a wrong way to do something
on a computer - you'll discover it.