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Old June 18th 04, 10:27 PM
Robert
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I setup a small office network with 2 computers runing
Win98SE and 1 computer runing WinXP Pro. Computers are in
two rooms. Between rooms is one UTP network cable 15m
long that connects 1 computer with Win98SE with other
two. Other two cables is short (2 m). I use LevelOne
switch to connect computers together. The problem is
this: when I place the switch in room with separated
computer (Win98SE) and connect him with one short cable
and 1 other computer in other room with the long cable,
the network works fine. But, when I place the switch in
room with 2 computers (Win98SE and WinXP Pro) and connect
these computers with the short cables and computer in
other room with the long cable (the same one as above),
the network is established only between computers in the
same room; the computer in other room is not recognised.
It seems that the long cable works only if the switch is
connected-placed in the room with 1 computer. Where is
the problem? Is it possible that the long cable work only
in one direction? Please, I really need help about this.
Thanks
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Old June 18th 04, 11:46 PM
CJT
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Robert wrote:

I setup a small office network with 2 computers runing
Win98SE and 1 computer runing WinXP Pro. Computers are in
two rooms. Between rooms is one UTP network cable 15m
long that connects 1 computer with Win98SE with other
two. Other two cables is short (2 m). I use LevelOne
switch to connect computers together. The problem is
this: when I place the switch in room with separated
computer (Win98SE) and connect him with one short cable
and 1 other computer in other room with the long cable,
the network works fine. But, when I place the switch in
room with 2 computers (Win98SE and WinXP Pro) and connect
these computers with the short cables and computer in
other room with the long cable (the same one as above),
the network is established only between computers in the
same room; the computer in other room is not recognised.
It seems that the long cable works only if the switch is
connected-placed in the room with 1 computer. Where is
the problem? Is it possible that the long cable work only
in one direction? Please, I really need help about this.
Thanks


It sounds to me like the computer that's separate has a
different kind of network card that is less forgiving of
a marginal long cable.

Either that, or perhaps in your tests you accidentally
used an "uplink" port on the switch in the case that
didn't work.

What, if anything, do the status lights on the switch and
the three computers tell you when the connection is failing?

Is the long cable known to be of good quality? You didn't
make it yourself, did you? (If you did, I bet you didn't
honor the required pairings when you attached the connectors.)

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Old June 19th 04, 01:03 AM
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-----Original Message-----
Robert wrote:

I setup a small office network with 2 computers runing
Win98SE and 1 computer runing WinXP Pro. Computers are

in
two rooms. Between rooms is one UTP network cable 15m
long that connects 1 computer with Win98SE with other
two. Other two cables is short (2 m). I use LevelOne
switch to connect computers together. The problem is
this: when I place the switch in room with separated
computer (Win98SE) and connect him with one short

cable
and 1 other computer in other room with the long

cable,
the network works fine. But, when I place the switch

in
room with 2 computers (Win98SE and WinXP Pro) and

connect
these computers with the short cables and computer in
other room with the long cable (the same one as

above),
the network is established only between computers in

the
same room; the computer in other room is not

recognised.
It seems that the long cable works only if the switch

is
connected-placed in the room with 1 computer. Where is
the problem? Is it possible that the long cable work

only
in one direction? Please, I really need help about

this.
Thanks


It sounds to me like the computer that's separate has a
different kind of network card that is less forgiving of
a marginal long cable.

Either that, or perhaps in your tests you accidentally
used an "uplink" port on the switch in the case that
didn't work.

What, if anything, do the status lights on the switch and
the three computers tell you when the connection is

failing?

Is the long cable known to be of good quality? You

didn't
make it yourself, did you? (If you did, I bet you didn't
honor the required pairings when you attached the

connectors.)

--
The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in

an attempt to
minimize spam. Our true address is of the form

.
.


First of all, thanks for your interest in solving my
problem. Now, let's see:

1. What is "uplink" port on the switch? Does it matters
which port I use? Should I not change the ports for each
computer I connect during my tests?

2. The status light on the switch are okay; they show
three connected cards-computers-cables; the card on the
separated computer has 3 lights: 10M-on, 100M-off and ACT-
off, which should be on, I think if the network is okay.

3. I can't figured out how the long cable work fine in
one way and don't work in other way (which I described in
my first post). And yes, I did make it myself, just like
other two (the short one's). I think I honor the required
pairings (for the straight-thru cables, wright?), just I
didn't follow exact color of wires.
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Old June 19th 04, 02:04 AM
CJT
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wrote:

-----Original Message-----
Robert wrote:


I setup a small office network with 2 computers runing
Win98SE and 1 computer runing WinXP Pro. Computers are


in

two rooms. Between rooms is one UTP network cable 15m
long that connects 1 computer with Win98SE with other
two. Other two cables is short (2 m). I use LevelOne
switch to connect computers together. The problem is
this: when I place the switch in room with separated
computer (Win98SE) and connect him with one short


cable

and 1 other computer in other room with the long


cable,

the network works fine. But, when I place the switch


in

room with 2 computers (Win98SE and WinXP Pro) and


connect

these computers with the short cables and computer in
other room with the long cable (the same one as


above),

the network is established only between computers in


the

same room; the computer in other room is not


recognised.

It seems that the long cable works only if the switch


is

connected-placed in the room with 1 computer. Where is
the problem? Is it possible that the long cable work


only

in one direction? Please, I really need help about


this.

Thanks


It sounds to me like the computer that's separate has a
different kind of network card that is less forgiving of
a marginal long cable.

Either that, or perhaps in your tests you accidentally
used an "uplink" port on the switch in the case that
didn't work.

What, if anything, do the status lights on the switch and
the three computers tell you when the connection is


failing?

Is the long cable known to be of good quality? You


didn't

make it yourself, did you? (If you did, I bet you didn't
honor the required pairings when you attached the


connectors.)

--
The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in


an attempt to

minimize spam. Our true address is of the form


.

.



First of all, thanks for your interest in solving my
problem. Now, let's see:

1. What is "uplink" port on the switch? Does it matters
which port I use? Should I not change the ports for each
computer I connect during my tests?


An uplink port inserts the logical equivalent of a crossover cable
in the circuit of that port.


2. The status light on the switch are okay; they show
three connected cards-computers-cables; the card on the
separated computer has 3 lights: 10M-on, 100M-off and ACT-
off, which should be on, I think if the network is okay.

3. I can't figured out how the long cable work fine in
one way and don't work in other way (which I described in
my first post). And yes, I did make it myself, just like
other two (the short one's). I think I honor the required
pairings (for the straight-thru cables, wright?), just I
didn't follow exact color of wires.


Bingo.

Buy a cable that's wired correctly. Just having pin 1-8
connected to pin 1-8 isn't enough. You MUST follow the
color coding (or its topological equivalent, but why be
difficult?). The symptoms of failing to do so are
precisely as you have described.

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