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Old February 7th 05, 07:33 AM
Beau
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Default Transfering Data from one hard drive to another

I need a bigger hard drive. What's the easiest way to keep
all the stuff on my old hard drive?

Thank You

Beau
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Old February 7th 05, 11:15 AM
Joan Archer
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Just a thought but you could just leave it in and make it slave to the
new one but you would have to wait for one of the gurus to come along
and tell you how.
Joan

Beau wrote:
I need a bigger hard drive. What's the easiest way to keep
all the stuff on my old hard drive?

Thank You

Beau

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Old February 7th 05, 04:27 PM
Rick T
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Beau wrote:
I need a bigger hard drive. What's the easiest way to keep
all the stuff on my old hard drive?


what Joan said; if you can avoid it though, don't put hard-drives onto
the same IDE channel.

Rick
(for a sufficiently large definition of "guru" (my name has an "r" in it))
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Old February 7th 05, 07:34 PM
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.. if you can avoid it though, don't put hard-drives onto the same IDE
channel.


Interesting comment Rick. I'm not sure if there's a 'best practice'
explanation to your suggestion, or whether it's just another computing
"myth". Sure, I've heard the 'so-called' advantages of separating HD's and
CD-ROM's etc., to speed-up read/write operations but...

My box was supplied (by a 'reputable' OEM) with one HDD and two CD-ROM's
(One DVD-ROM and a CD-RW). The HDD connected to one controller and the two
CD-ROM's connected to the other. The spectre of the 'myth' kicked-in, but I
managed to resist temptation until - and to cut the story short - I decided
to add a second HDD.

Yikes! The original HDD was jumpered as CS on a single device IDE ribbon
cable.

For other reasons, I decided to use this opportunity to replace the original
disk - (trying to keep the story short g) - and bought two brand new
(identical) HDD's. Both were jumpered as CS by the manufacturer - straight
out of their sealed bags. So off I trotted for a two-device IDE cable and
connected them accordingly as CS. The MoBo appears to like CS and accepted
them in their correct order, as did POST and WinXP and all seems well.

My question being - did you include your assertion :-
.. if you can avoid it though, .... etc.,

because some (reputable?) OEM's and HD manufacturers supply kit like mine,
or because of myth and/or a 'best practice' explanation?

BTW - I also have my own theories about the usefulness of partitioning - but
let's not even go there g

Mart


"Rick T" wrote in message
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Beau wrote:
I need a bigger hard drive. What's the easiest way to keep all the stuff
on my old hard drive?


what Joan said; if you can avoid it though, don't put hard-drives onto the
same IDE channel.

Rick
(for a sufficiently large definition of "guru" (my name has an "r" in it))



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Old February 7th 05, 09:28 PM
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lol You know what I meant Rick, someone with more knowledge than me vbg
Joan

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Rick
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Old February 8th 05, 02:28 AM
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Beau, I'm a novice but I did just change out my hard drive
(went from a 30 G Quantum to a 80 G Western Digital - cause
the 80 was cheaper than a 40 G).

It went pretty simple, per the manufacturer's directions, I
jumpered the Quantum as Master (while it was still in the
system), jumpered the Western Digital as Slave then
connected it to the connector that is in the ribbon cable
between the motherboard and the Quantum hard drive,
connected an extra power cable to the new drive. I then
followed the instructions provided on the installation CD
that came with the new drive.

I would assume that other brands would be similar to Western
Digital.

Good luck.

"Beau" wrote in
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I need a bigger hard drive. What's the easiest way to keep
all the stuff on my old hard drive?

Thank You

Beau



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Old February 8th 05, 05:11 AM
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Mart wrote:
.. if you can avoid it though, don't put hard-drives onto the same IDE
channel.


Load balancing.

"If you can avoid it" because some (older) CDR drives can only be
master. Or you might have 3 HDs.



Rick
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Old February 8th 05, 07:13 AM
Job
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Beau,
I forgot to include one final point. Data was transferred
from the old drive to the new one just slick as a whistle.

HTH
"Job" wrote in message
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Beau, I'm a novice but I did just change out my hard drive
(went from a 30 G Quantum to a 80 G Western Digital -

cause
the 80 was cheaper than a 40 G).

It went pretty simple, per the manufacturer's directions,

I
jumpered the Quantum as Master (while it was still in the
system), jumpered the Western Digital as Slave then
connected it to the connector that is in the ribbon cable
between the motherboard and the Quantum hard drive,
connected an extra power cable to the new drive. I then
followed the instructions provided on the installation CD
that came with the new drive.

I would assume that other brands would be similar to

Western
Digital.

Good luck.

"Beau" wrote in
message ...
I need a bigger hard drive. What's the easiest way to

keep
all the stuff on my old hard drive?

Thank You

Beau





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Old February 8th 05, 09:36 AM
Mart
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Load balancing.

Ah! - Now why didn't I think of that g Thanks Rick.

Mart


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Mart wrote:
.. if you can avoid it though, don't put hard-drives onto the same IDE
channel.


Load balancing.

"If you can avoid it" because some (older) CDR drives can only be master.
Or you might have 3 HDs.



Rick



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Old March 1st 05, 03:07 AM
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Interesting comment Rick. I'm not sure if there's a 'best practice'
explanation to your suggestion, or whether it's just another computing
"myth". Sure, I've heard the 'so-called' advantages of separating HD's and
CD-ROM's etc., to speed-up read/write operations but...



Mart,

The reasons for not putting a drive (of any type) on the same bus as any
other dirve have to do with the bus speed.

First up, CD-Rom drives are slow! I believe ATA-33 is about as fast as they
go.
Late model ATA hard disks are capable of ATA-100/133 under the following
conditions.
1. The motherboard supports ATA-100/133, and BIOS is set to AUTO for the bus
speed.
2. An ATA-100/133 IDE bus cable is used. It has 80 wires, instead of the
usual 40 wires. Still only 40 pins, but 80 wires. Every second wire is
earthed to provide shielding for the higher bus speed.
3. The hard disk drive is capable.
4. ALL devices on the bus are ATA-100/133 capable.

So, the bottom line is:-
A bus will only run as fast as the slowest device on the bus.
Put a CD-ROM on the same bus as an ATA-100/133 hard disk, and all you get
is..... ATA-33!!!!!
Keep your fast hard disks on one bus, keep your CD-Roms on the other bus. If
you must put a hard disk on the same bus as the CD-Rom, don't expect maximum
performance from, (unless of course, the HD is an old slow one)

BTW. For CS (Cable Select) to work you must use an 80 wire ATA-100/133
cable, the master drive goes on the end plug, and the slave drive goes on the
middle plug. The connectors should be labelled Primary, Secondary, and System
Board.

Good Luck,
BarryG
 




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