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  #1  
Old July 6th 04, 12:56 AM
RJK
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Default ...hosts file ...

....that never seemed to do anything on my machinee.g. block content from the
out of date list of domain names from mvps.org :-)

....WHAT exactly should be the first line in the hosts file

127.0.0.1 localhost

....do i have to change "localhost" to be something to do with my computer
e.g. my computer name , or change it to something to do with my ISP. As
is obvious I don't know anything about networking but, I keep coming back
to the hosts file, and having another fiddle, becuase I would like to block
the banner ads. from bluestreak, doubleclick and tangozebra and so on.

TIA, regards, Richard

p.s. I HAVE got a check in the box "Bypass proxy server for local addresses"
because MY DUN connection has proxy settings:-
http://www-cache.freeserve.com port 8080
http://www-cache.freeserve.com port 8080 in the HTTP: and FTP: slots.


  #2  
Old July 6th 04, 02:10 AM
AlmostBob
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Default ...hosts file ...

127.0.0.1 localhost is Good, localhost is a reserved name and thats what is
should be, there are dozens of hosts files available for download that you can
use http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm is good stuff

--
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
Catalog of removal tools http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters

"RJK" wrote in message
...
| ...that never seemed to do anything on my machinee.g. block content from the
| out of date list of domain names from mvps.org :-)
|
| ...WHAT exactly should be the first line in the hosts file
|
| 127.0.0.1 localhost
|
| ...do i have to change "localhost" to be something to do with my computer
| e.g. my computer name , or change it to something to do with my ISP. As
| is obvious I don't know anything about networking but, I keep coming back
| to the hosts file, and having another fiddle, becuase I would like to block
| the banner ads. from bluestreak, doubleclick and tangozebra and so on.
|
| TIA, regards, Richard
|
| p.s. I HAVE got a check in the box "Bypass proxy server for local addresses"
| because MY DUN connection has proxy settings:-
| http://www-cache.freeserve.com port 8080
| http://www-cache.freeserve.com port 8080 in the HTTP: and FTP: slots.
|
|


  #3  
Old July 8th 04, 01:35 PM
RJK
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Default ...hosts file ...

YES !!!! YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES
!!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES
!!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!

it's working !!!! ...after all this time !
well.... hosts isn't working but, the procedure on
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse is :-)

I just carefully worked throught the few odds and ends in
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse and cleared cookies and
tif and double clicked my big blue E and my ISP's http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/
home page just loaded and at the top where the banner ad. always is, is now
showing "Action Cancelled"

I only saw an "action cancelled" once or twice in the distant past and then
the banner ads. were back !

This time around I again added edited the no-ads.pac file variable 'normal'
to:-
var normal = "http://www-cache.freeserve.com:8080"; as I'd done in the past
when attempting this procedure...

and added the
file://C:/WINDOWS/system32/drivers/etc/no-ads.pac pathname to my DUN's
automatic configuration script slot, as I'd done before.
(don't ask me why I'm storing it in etc ...it seemed as good a place as any
! :-)

......oh, and I did the http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271361 thing as
well ! :-)

This morning - this time around having a 'go' with no-ads.pac, in IE6 -
Security - Local Intranet zone, I cleared the check box "Include all sites
that bypass the proxy server," ( I hadn't spotted that when I tried this -
weeks and weeks ago )...... and it WORKS. ...touch wood.

regards, Richard

Now, I should be able to stuff no-ads.pac full of lots more ad. server
url's or domain name, must go in and have a look at the syntax/nomenclature
for it, I don't want to upset it now, do I !!
















"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Wouldn't it be better to post your hosts file.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"RJK" wrote in message
...
After HOURS and HOURS of fiddling and tweaking, it seems that because my

ISP
server? dishes up both ad and non-ad content, this is why my host file

NEVER
works.

So I thought the EXPERTS in here might like to take a look at, and comment
on
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse

regards, Richard

....I used to use a *.pac file years ago, looks like I'll be having

another
got at this :-)




"AlmostBob" wrote in message
...
127.0.0.1 localhost is Good, localhost is a reserved name and thats what

is
should be, there are dozens of hosts files available for download that you

can
use http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm is good stuff

--
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
Catalog of removal tools http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before

use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters

"RJK" wrote in message
...
| ...that never seemed to do anything on my machinee.g. block content from

the
| out of date list of domain names from mvps.org :-)
|
| ...WHAT exactly should be the first line in the hosts file
|
| 127.0.0.1 localhost
|
| ...do i have to change "localhost" to be something to do with my

computer
| e.g. my computer name , or change it to something to do with my ISP.

As
| is obvious I don't know anything about networking but, I keep coming

back
| to the hosts file, and having another fiddle, becuase I would like to

block
| the banner ads. from bluestreak, doubleclick and tangozebra and so on.
|
| TIA, regards, Richard
|
| p.s. I HAVE got a check in the box "Bypass proxy server for local

addresses"
| because MY DUN connection has proxy settings:-
| http://www-cache.freeserve.com port 8080
| http://www-cache.freeserve.com port 8080 in the HTTP: and FTP: slots.
|
|




  #4  
Old July 8th 04, 01:48 PM
RJK
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Posts: n/a
Default ...hosts file ...

...which raises several questions including, "Could it have been the case
that XP never read / implemented my hosts file in the etc directory because
in IE6 - Security - Local Intranet zone, I hadn't cleared the check box
"Include all sites that bypass the proxy server?"

regards, Richard


"RJK" wrote in message
...
YES !!!! YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES

!!!!YES
!!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES
!!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES !!!!YES

!!!!

it's working !!!! ...after all this time !
well.... hosts isn't working but, the procedure on
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse is :-)

I just carefully worked throught the few odds and ends in
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse and cleared cookies and
tif and double clicked my big blue E and my ISP's

http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/
home page just loaded and at the top where the banner ad. always is, is

now
showing "Action Cancelled"

I only saw an "action cancelled" once or twice in the distant past and

then
the banner ads. were back !

This time around I again added edited the no-ads.pac file variable

'normal'
to:-
var normal = "http://www-cache.freeserve.com:8080"; as I'd done in the

past
when attempting this procedure...

and added the
file://C:/WINDOWS/system32/drivers/etc/no-ads.pac pathname to my DUN's
automatic configuration script slot, as I'd done before.
(don't ask me why I'm storing it in etc ...it seemed as good a place as

any
! :-)

.....oh, and I did the http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271361 thing as
well ! :-)

This morning - this time around having a 'go' with no-ads.pac, in IE6 -
Security - Local Intranet zone, I cleared the check box "Include all sites
that bypass the proxy server," ( I hadn't spotted that when I tried

this -
weeks and weeks ago )...... and it WORKS. ...touch wood.

regards, Richard

Now, I should be able to stuff no-ads.pac full of lots more ad. server
url's or domain name, must go in and have a look at the

syntax/nomenclature
for it, I don't want to upset it now, do I !!
















"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Wouldn't it be better to post your hosts file.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"RJK" wrote in message
...
After HOURS and HOURS of fiddling and tweaking, it seems that because my

ISP
server? dishes up both ad and non-ad content, this is why my host file

NEVER
works.

So I thought the EXPERTS in here might like to take a look at, and

comment
on
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse

regards, Richard

....I used to use a *.pac file years ago, looks like I'll be having

another
got at this :-)




"AlmostBob" wrote in message
...
127.0.0.1 localhost is Good, localhost is a reserved name and thats what

is
should be, there are dozens of hosts files available for download that

you
can
use http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm is good stuff

--
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
Catalog of removal tools

http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before

use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters

"RJK" wrote in message
...
| ...that never seemed to do anything on my machinee.g. block content

from
the
| out of date list of domain names from mvps.org :-)
|
| ...WHAT exactly should be the first line in the hosts file
|
| 127.0.0.1 localhost
|
| ...do i have to change "localhost" to be something to do with my

computer
| e.g. my computer name , or change it to something to do with my ISP.

As
| is obvious I don't know anything about networking but, I keep coming

back
| to the hosts file, and having another fiddle, becuase I would like to

block
| the banner ads. from bluestreak, doubleclick and tangozebra and so

on.
|
| TIA, regards, Richard
|
| p.s. I HAVE got a check in the box "Bypass proxy server for local

addresses"
| because MY DUN connection has proxy settings:-
| http://www-cache.freeserve.com port 8080
| http://www-cache.freeserve.com port 8080 in the HTTP: and FTP: slots.
|
|






  #5  
Old July 9th 04, 08:26 AM
Lee
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Default ...hosts file ...

"RJK" wrote in message ...
..which raises several questions including, "Could it have been the case
that XP never read / implemented my hosts file in the etc directory because
in IE6 - Security - Local Intranet zone, I hadn't cleared the check box
"Include all sites that bypass the proxy server?"

regards, Richard


It could be that your hosts file simply needed to be named HOSTS?
Awful small point but a valid one believe it or not.
  #6  
Old July 9th 04, 04:14 PM
RJK
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Default ...hosts file ...

I had noticed that observation by others but, naming the file hosts
(lowercase), it immediatley appeared in Windows Explorer etc file listing
pane as HOSTS ...so perhaps you're right.

regards, Richard

....is it supposed to be upper case or lower case, ...or Hosts or doesn't
it matter ?

regards, Richard


"Lee" wrote in message
om...
"RJK" wrote in message

...
..which raises several questions including, "Could it have been the case
that XP never read / implemented my hosts file in the etc directory

because
in IE6 - Security - Local Intranet zone, I hadn't cleared the check box
"Include all sites that bypass the proxy server?"

regards, Richard


It could be that your hosts file simply needed to be named HOSTS?
Awful small point but a valid one believe it or not.



  #7  
Old July 10th 04, 08:57 AM
Lee
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Default ...hosts file ...

It definitely matters and it should be all uppercase. Since
Windows will 'pretty' filenames at times and not show it's
true aspects you should look at the files' properties and note
it's MS-DOS name? Mine shows all lowercase in Windows Explorer,
but the MS-DOS name is all uppercase. In my self-rolled HOSTS
control batch file, I make sure to rename it HOSTS as a DOS
box can rename in lower case rendering it useless - some spyware
use this trick to gain control which is why I also set it with
read-only attributes. But if they can do the rename to lower,
they can also reset the attributes before hand so no real
protection. Just a warm fuzzy feeling.

However, I just got the stuff about Busting Banner Ads at
schooner.com - very interesting stuff. Thanks.
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse

"RJK" wrote in message ...
I had noticed that observation by others but, naming the file hosts
(lowercase), it immediatley appeared in Windows Explorer etc file listing
pane as HOSTS ...so perhaps you're right.

regards, Richard

...is it supposed to be upper case or lower case, ...or Hosts or doesn't
it matter ?

regards, Richard


"Lee" wrote in message
om...
"RJK" wrote in message

...
..which raises several questions including, "Could it have been the case
that XP never read / implemented my hosts file in the etc directory

because
in IE6 - Security - Local Intranet zone, I hadn't cleared the check box
"Include all sites that bypass the proxy server?"

regards, Richard


It could be that your hosts file simply needed to be named HOSTS?
Awful small point but a valid one believe it or not.

  #8  
Old July 10th 04, 07:17 PM
PCR
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Default ...hosts file ...

To SEE case in Win98, "START button, Settings, Folder Options, View tab,
check ''Allow all uppercase names". Without it checked, Explorer will
pretty them up for display purposes, although they may actually be mixed
case in reality.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Lee" wrote in message
m...
| It definitely matters and it should be all uppercase. Since
| Windows will 'pretty' filenames at times and not show it's
| true aspects you should look at the files' properties and note
| it's MS-DOS name? Mine shows all lowercase in Windows Explorer,
| but the MS-DOS name is all uppercase. In my self-rolled HOSTS
| control batch file, I make sure to rename it HOSTS as a DOS
| box can rename in lower case rendering it useless - some spyware
| use this trick to gain control which is why I also set it with
| read-only attributes. But if they can do the rename to lower,
| they can also reset the attributes before hand so no real
| protection. Just a warm fuzzy feeling.
|
| However, I just got the stuff about Busting Banner Ads at
| schooner.com - very interesting stuff. Thanks.
|
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse
|
| "RJK" wrote in message
...
| I had noticed that observation by others but, naming the file hosts
| (lowercase), it immediatley appeared in Windows Explorer etc file
listing
| pane as HOSTS ...so perhaps you're right.
|
| regards, Richard
|
| ...is it supposed to be upper case or lower case, ...or Hosts or
doesn't
| it matter ?
|
| regards, Richard
|
|
| "Lee" wrote in message
| om...
| "RJK" wrote in message
| ...
| ..which raises several questions including, "Could it have been
the case
| that XP never read / implemented my hosts file in the etc
directory
| because
| in IE6 - Security - Local Intranet zone, I hadn't cleared the
check box
| "Include all sites that bypass the proxy server?"
|
| regards, Richard
|
|
| It could be that your hosts file simply needed to be named HOSTS?
| Awful small point but a valid one believe it or not.


  #9  
Old July 11th 04, 06:00 AM
Lee
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Default ...hosts file ...

And if you run 98 set up like this then you may notice all new
files/folders are created in uppercase - or was that just a
nightmare I had? At any rate, I like pretty and with the right
click workaround for this one file, I'm good to go. Thanks for
another alternative, I tried it, I didn't like it.

"PCR" wrote in message ...
To SEE case in Win98, "START button, Settings, Folder Options, View tab,
check ''Allow all uppercase names". Without it checked, Explorer will
pretty them up for display purposes, although they may actually be mixed
case in reality.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Lee" wrote in message
m...
| It definitely matters and it should be all uppercase. Since
| Windows will 'pretty' filenames at times and not show it's
| true aspects you should look at the files' properties and note
| it's MS-DOS name? Mine shows all lowercase in Windows Explorer,
| but the MS-DOS name is all uppercase. In my self-rolled HOSTS
| control batch file, I make sure to rename it HOSTS as a DOS
| box can rename in lower case rendering it useless - some spyware
| use this trick to gain control which is why I also set it with
| read-only attributes. But if they can do the rename to lower,
| they can also reset the attributes before hand so no real
| protection. Just a warm fuzzy feeling.
|
| However, I just got the stuff about Busting Banner Ads at
| schooner.com - very interesting stuff. Thanks.
|
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse
|
| "RJK" wrote in message
...
| I had noticed that observation by others but, naming the file hosts
| (lowercase), it immediatley appeared in Windows Explorer etc file
listing
| pane as HOSTS ...so perhaps you're right.
|
| regards, Richard
|
| ...is it supposed to be upper case or lower case, ...or Hosts or
doesn't
| it matter ?
|
| regards, Richard
|
|
| "Lee" wrote in message
| om...
| "RJK" wrote in message
...
| ..which raises several questions including, "Could it have been
the case
| that XP never read / implemented my hosts file in the etc
directory
because
| in IE6 - Security - Local Intranet zone, I hadn't cleared the
check box
| "Include all sites that bypass the proxy server?"
|
| regards, Richard
|
|
| It could be that your hosts file simply needed to be named HOSTS?
| Awful small point but a valid one believe it or not.

  #10  
Old July 11th 04, 05:54 PM
PCR
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Default ...hosts file ...

That checkbox merely affects Explorer's display. It's a matter of
whether or not you want to see the actual case of file names, that are
in the directory. It's ugly, but I choose reality. I have checked that
box.

Case normally means nothing. I don't know what the hubbub over HOSTS'
case is all about.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Lee" wrote in message
om...
| And if you run 98 set up like this then you may notice all new
| files/folders are created in uppercase - or was that just a
| nightmare I had? At any rate, I like pretty and with the right
| click workaround for this one file, I'm good to go. Thanks for
| another alternative, I tried it, I didn't like it.
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
...
| To SEE case in Win98, "START button, Settings, Folder Options, View
tab,
| check ''Allow all uppercase names". Without it checked, Explorer
will
| pretty them up for display purposes, although they may actually be
mixed
| case in reality.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "Lee" wrote in message
| m...
| | It definitely matters and it should be all uppercase. Since
| | Windows will 'pretty' filenames at times and not show it's
| | true aspects you should look at the files' properties and note
| | it's MS-DOS name? Mine shows all lowercase in Windows Explorer,
| | but the MS-DOS name is all uppercase. In my self-rolled HOSTS
| | control batch file, I make sure to rename it HOSTS as a DOS
| | box can rename in lower case rendering it useless - some spyware
| | use this trick to gain control which is why I also set it with
| | read-only attributes. But if they can do the rename to lower,
| | they can also reset the attributes before hand so no real
| | protection. Just a warm fuzzy feeling.
| |
| | However, I just got the stuff about Busting Banner Ads at
| | schooner.com - very interesting stuff. Thanks.
| |
http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/#howtouse
| |
| | "RJK" wrote in message
| ...
| | I had noticed that observation by others but, naming the file
hosts
| | (lowercase), it immediatley appeared in Windows Explorer etc
file
| listing
| | pane as HOSTS ...so perhaps you're right.
| |
| | regards, Richard
| |
| | ...is it supposed to be upper case or lower case, ...or Hosts
or
| doesn't
| | it matter ?
| |
| | regards, Richard
| |
| |
| | "Lee" wrote in message
| | om...
| | "RJK" wrote in message
| ...
| | ..which raises several questions including, "Could it have
been
| the case
| | that XP never read / implemented my hosts file in the etc
| directory
| because
| | in IE6 - Security - Local Intranet zone, I hadn't cleared
the
| check box
| | "Include all sites that bypass the proxy server?"
| |
| | regards, Richard
| |
| |
| | It could be that your hosts file simply needed to be named
HOSTS?
| | Awful small point but a valid one believe it or not.


 




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