Adobe Reader Security Hole

Mart,

Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please.

Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what (no
contest as you say).

Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad
opinion of Foxit Reader!

Zee

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee wrote :-

MUCH Lighter ????

FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb
(Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download)

Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is
128 Mb !!

No contest!!

BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of
XP. Might just uninstall and forget it.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

A quick comment:

Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in
Windows, IE and FF than previous versions.

IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP).

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud'
utility. Just find it useful sometimes g

BTW - Happy NY

Mart


"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
I'm using Foxit Heather and like it.
Joan

Heather wrote:
Copying this over from the spyware news group.

Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is out.
Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one.

Cheers......Heather

Hi Zee,

As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts - and
hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of 'Good
Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your
suggestion to try AR 8.0.

Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a
very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the
speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in
itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my
head around the 'new interface' tomorrow)

I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been
retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of AR
on my PC.

However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some
121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese
alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much
'smaller'

Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make
other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it.

Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Mart,

Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please.

Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what
(no contest as you say).

Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad
opinion of Foxit Reader!

Zee

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee wrote :-

MUCH Lighter ????

FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb
(Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download)

Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is
128 Mb !!

No contest!!

BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of
XP. Might just uninstall and forget it.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

A quick comment:

Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in
Windows, IE and FF than previous versions.

IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP).

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud'
utility. Just find it useful sometimes g

BTW - Happy NY

Mart


"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
I'm using Foxit Heather and like it.
Joan

Heather wrote:
Copying this over from the spyware news group.

Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is
out.
Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one.

Cheers......Heather

Hi Mart,

Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0.

Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward.

Cheers,

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi Zee,

As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts -
and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of
'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your
suggestion to try AR 8.0.

Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a
very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the
speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in
itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my
head around the 'new interface' tomorrow)

I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been
retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of
AR on my PC.

However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some
121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese
alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much
'smaller'

Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make
other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it.

Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Mart,

Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please.

Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what
(no contest as you say).

Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad
opinion of Foxit Reader!

Zee

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee wrote :-

MUCH Lighter ????

FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb
(Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download)

Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder
is 128 Mb !!

No contest!!

BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of
XP. Might just uninstall and forget it.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

A quick comment:

Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in
Windows, IE and FF than previous versions.

IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP).

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud'
utility. Just find it useful sometimes g

BTW - Happy NY

Mart


"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
I'm using Foxit Heather and like it.
Joan

Heather wrote:
Copying this over from the spyware news group.

Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is
out.
Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one.

Cheers......Heather

oops!! wrote:
Hi Mart,

Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0.

Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward.

Cheers,

Zee

I wish they would release the Spanish version of 8.

Alias



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi Zee,

As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts -
and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of
'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your
suggestion to try AR 8.0.

Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a
very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the
speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in
itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my
head around the 'new interface' tomorrow)

I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been
retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of
AR on my PC.

However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some
121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese
alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much
'smaller'

Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make
other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it.

Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
Mart,

Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please.

Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what
(no contest as you say).

Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad
opinion of Foxit Reader!

Zee

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee wrote :-

MUCH Lighter ????
FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb
(Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download)

Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder
is 128 Mb !!

No contest!!

BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of
XP. Might just uninstall and forget it.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...
A quick comment:

Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in
Windows, IE and FF than previous versions.

IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP).

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud'
utility. Just find it useful sometimes g

BTW - Happy NY

Mart


"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
I'm using Foxit Heather and like it.
Joan

Heather wrote:
Copying this over from the spyware news group.

Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is
out.
Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one.

Cheers......Heather

"Alias" wrote in message
...
oops!! wrote:
Hi Mart,

Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0.

Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward.

Cheers,

Zee

I wish they would release the Spanish version of 8.

Alias


It seems you still have a long wait... Winter 2007!

http://www.adobe.com/products/reader...nfo/languages/

Zee

oops!! wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message
...
oops!! wrote:
Hi Mart,

Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0.

Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward.

Cheers,

Zee
I wish they would release the Spanish version of 8.

Alias


It seems you still have a long wait... Winter 2007!

http://www.adobe.com/products/reader...nfo/languages/

Zee



Seems they will have an update to fix the problem next week.

Alias

Zee,

Just found this article on the BBC web site.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6234181.stm

Paranoia?
In spite of the new 'secure' AR 8.0, I wonder does FoxiT suffer the v7.0 and
less security shortcomings.

AR (in general) doesn't have an awful lot going for it I suppose g

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Hi Mart,

Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0.

Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward.

Cheers,

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi Zee,

As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts -
and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of
'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your
suggestion to try AR 8.0.

Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a
very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the
speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in
itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my
head around the 'new interface' tomorrow)

I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been
retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of
AR on my PC.

However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large -
some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the
Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT
much 'smaller'

Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make
other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it.

Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Mart,

Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please.

Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what
(no contest as you say).

Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad
opinion of Foxit Reader!

Zee

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee wrote :-

MUCH Lighter ????

FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb
(Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download)

Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder
is 128 Mb !!

No contest!!

BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of
XP. Might just uninstall and forget it.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

A quick comment:

Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in
Windows, IE and FF than previous versions.

IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP).

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud'
utility. Just find it useful sometimes g

BTW - Happy NY

Mart


"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
I'm using Foxit Heather and like it.
Joan

Heather wrote:
Copying this over from the spyware news group.

Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is
out.
Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one.

Cheers......Heather

Mart,

Foxit has no vulnerabilities reported at Secunia:

http://secunia.com/vendor/1850/

I believe this is one of those "popularity" issues, more popular programs
have higher probabilities of being hit by hackers, malware designers, etc.

See IE vs. FF, Linux vs. Windows, etc. etc. etc.

Perhaps Mike M has some fresh ideas about your doubt. I can't answer it...

Zee





"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee,

Just found this article on the BBC web site.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6234181.stm

Paranoia?
In spite of the new 'secure' AR 8.0, I wonder does FoxiT suffer the v7.0
and less security shortcomings.

AR (in general) doesn't have an awful lot going for it I suppose g

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Hi Mart,

Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0.

Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward.

Cheers,

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi Zee,

As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts -
and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of
'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to
your suggestion to try AR 8.0.

Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only
a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which
the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT.
That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try
to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow)

I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been
retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of
AR on my PC.

However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large -
some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the
Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT
much 'smaller'

Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make
other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it.

Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Mart,

Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please.

Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know
what (no contest as you say).

Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad
opinion of Foxit Reader!

Zee

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee wrote :-

MUCH Lighter ????

FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb
(Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download)

Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder
is 128 Mb !!

No contest!!

BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down
of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

A quick comment:

Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in
Windows, IE and FF than previous versions.

IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP).

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud'
utility. Just find it useful sometimes g

BTW - Happy NY

Mart


"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
I'm using Foxit Heather and like it.
Joan

Heather wrote:
Copying this over from the spyware news group.

Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is
out.
Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this
one.

Cheers......Heather

Zee,

I am using both, Foxit and AR at will, to suit my needs: the last free
version AR 6.0 and the latest of Foxit Reader. Also trying to avoid using
the plug-ins for AR and see no risk in either program.
In the end personal preference plays a big role.

Harry.


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Mart,

Foxit has no vulnerabilities reported at Secunia:

http://secunia.com/vendor/1850/

I believe this is one of those "popularity" issues, more popular programs
have higher probabilities of being hit by hackers, malware designers, etc.

See IE vs. FF, Linux vs. Windows, etc. etc. etc.

Perhaps Mike M has some fresh ideas about your doubt. I can't answer it...

Zee





"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee,

Just found this article on the BBC web site.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6234181.stm

Paranoia?
In spite of the new 'secure' AR 8.0, I wonder does FoxiT suffer the v7.0
and less security shortcomings.

AR (in general) doesn't have an awful lot going for it I suppose g

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Hi Mart,

Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0.

Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward.

Cheers,

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi Zee,

As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between
posts -
and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of
'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to
your suggestion to try AR 8.0.

Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it
only
a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which
the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT.
That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll
try
to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow)

I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been
retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy
of
AR on my PC.

However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large -
some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include
the
Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's
THAT
much 'smaller'

Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should
make
other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it.

Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Mart,

Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please.

Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know
what (no contest as you say).

Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad
opinion of Foxit Reader!

Zee

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee wrote :-

MUCH Lighter ????

FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb
(Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download)

Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files
folder
is 128 Mb !!

No contest!!

BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down
of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

A quick comment:

Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in
Windows, IE and FF than previous versions.

IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP).

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud'
utility. Just find it useful sometimes g

BTW - Happy NY

Mart


"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
I'm using Foxit Heather and like it.
Joan

Heather wrote:
Copying this over from the spyware news group.

Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version
is
out.
Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this
one.

Cheers......Heather

My verdict on AR 8.0:

I just reverted to 7.0.8. For one there are no (known) security holes if you
disable all the fluff and just use it as a basic PDF viewer, which is all
you need it for. Tell me once again - whats the benefit of displaying in the
browser?

In Edit/Preferences disable viewing in the browser, disable speculative
downloading in the background, disable adobe javascript, disable allowing
documents to open other files, etc. Disable the the part concerned with
certificates (do that in XP too actually - not because its a vulnerability
but because it is not in any way a security enhancement. Its just MS
commercialisation - http://www.jsware.net/jsware/iewacky.php3 for a pretty
good explanation).

In View/Toolbars disable searching the internet.

Otherwise, 7.0.8 had improved considerably in that ar speedup was no longer
necessary - it starts almost immediately (just takes 2 years to install in
the first place!). All it really leaves to complain about is using so much
disk space - but who is *that* pushed for disk space today? Not enough to
push the software beyond the pale anyway!

So why have I reverted from 8.0 to 7.0.8? Because 8.0 no longer provides an
option to disable checking for updates! In 7.0.8, bottom of the list in
Edit/Preferences (unless in previous versions you'd already disabled it with
ar speedup) is *Updates*, from whence one could turn updating off. Not there
anymore! Now, to retain control of your own computer you have to block it
with the firewall (maybe you can do it via the registry or some other
complex method, but I haven't looked into it and that misses the point
anyway). Of course, block it in the firewall and you have to disable the
rule to check via the software (as opposed to going to the site), which is
unnecessary in 7.0.8 - you can still manually click 'check for updates'.

So unless - like some of you - you automatically trust businesses and unlike
me are not control freaks, Adobe Reader 8.0 will do, I guess. But otherwise
sound of lav being flushed


Shane










oops!! wrote:
Hi Mart,

Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0.

Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward.

Cheers,

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi Zee,

As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between
posts - and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the
interests of 'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I
succumbed to your suggestion to try AR 8.0.

Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it
only a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with
which the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as
FoxiT. That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else.
(I'll try to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow)

I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has
been retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping
a copy of AR on my PC.

However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large
- some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also
include the Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really
know if it's THAT much 'smaller'

Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should
make other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it.

Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

Mart,

Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please.

Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know
what (no contest as you say).

Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a
bad opinion of Foxit Reader!

Zee

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Zee wrote :-

MUCH Lighter ????

FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb
(Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download)

Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files
folder is 128 Mb !!

No contest!!

BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on
shut-down of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it.

Mart


"oops!!" wrote in message
...

A quick comment:

Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated
in Windows, IE and FF than previous versions.

IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP).

Zee



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out
Loud' utility. Just find it useful sometimes g

BTW - Happy NY

Mart


"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
I'm using Foxit Heather and like it.
Joan

Heather wrote:
Copying this over from the spyware news group.

Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version
is out.
Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this
one. Cheers......Heather