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  #23  
Old September 1st 06, 06:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Mike M wrote:
If you've done all I suggested other than reinstall the problematic
modem I would have thought that that was what you should be doing now.
Make sure that you are using Win Me drivers and not those for another
operating system.

Hold on. I went back and verified that all trace of the problematic
driver is gone. All that shows is the on-board generic 56K modem,
But I'm having trouble reinstalling DUN. I can find it, check
it, but it doesn't load when I led it to BASE2.CAB ...
I don't think I'm as concerned about the modem or DUN as I am about
just having a clean working system back to where I was before I
tried installing the modem drivers. What about the error message
about not enough memory and the 64K stacks?
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Old September 1st 06, 07:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Mike M wrote:
It's not BASE2.CAB that is important but instead the folder containing
this and the other Win Me cab files. Remove DUN, reboot and then try
installing it again. On completion reboot again, set a system restore
checkpoint (you have installed the 290700 hotfix I hope) and then try
installing the new modem.

Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but I'd
rather have a system that works and will run my applications, than have
the modem working. I've been hoping you would get me back to that point
before I try the modem again.

Another point: I have never used restore points or checkpoints, and
I have had no opportunity to install that or any other hotfix. If you
recall, I installed 98, then the upgrade to Win Me, and then started
installing a few applications. With no online connection working in
that OS, I'm at a loss as to how to install updates or hotfixes. I've
tried to walk step by step but installing the modem driver for the
onboard chipset got me into the 'insufficient memory' message.

I have another alternative which might be simpler for us both. I
have an exact clone of the Me system, as it was before it went bad.
I can put this 'bad' system aside and work with the clone. I can
even clone the clone so that if *it* goes bad, I'll still have a
status quo ante copy.

I'll ask your advice on pursuing that path, and also if there might
be a way that I can obtain hotfixes or updates for Me by downloading
them using XP, saving in a temporary file, and then installing them
off line. You've put the bug in my head, that my Me can't go online
because it needs updating, and can't be updated because it can't go
online.

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Old September 1st 06, 07:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but I'd
rather have a system that works and will run my applications, than
have the modem working.


That's quite amazing and I can't help feel that I've probably been wasting
my time. Perhaps I ought to remind you that it was YOU that started this
thread reporting problems and asking how to resolve them!

I'm sorry that you have never used system restore (SR) and this does lead
me to wonder why you upgraded to Win Me if you weren't interested in one
of its major features, another being the related system file protection
(SFP), with both SFP and SR being functions of Win Me's state manager. No
doubt you had your reasons and I guess those were important to yourself
but for a system that isn't going to be updated or used to connect to the
net you might as well have stuck with Win 98.

You asked in your very first post:

Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so
that I can see what's happening in RAM.


and I responded that you couldn't. If you weren't really interested in
installing your modem why didn't you quit then? As to where you go from
here I think I should leave that to you to decide as I feel that you will
always do what you want regardless of what I have to say. I know I would
if I were in your position. vbg

Cheers and the best of luck,
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Mike Maltby



wrote:

Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but I'd
rather have a system that works and will run my applications, than
have the modem working. I've been hoping you would get me back to
that point before I try the modem again.

Another point: I have never used restore points or checkpoints, and
I have had no opportunity to install that or any other hotfix. If you
recall, I installed 98, then the upgrade to Win Me, and then started
installing a few applications. With no online connection working in
that OS, I'm at a loss as to how to install updates or hotfixes. I've
tried to walk step by step but installing the modem driver for the
onboard chipset got me into the 'insufficient memory' message.

I have another alternative which might be simpler for us both. I
have an exact clone of the Me system, as it was before it went bad.
I can put this 'bad' system aside and work with the clone. I can
even clone the clone so that if *it* goes bad, I'll still have a
status quo ante copy.

I'll ask your advice on pursuing that path, and also if there might
be a way that I can obtain hotfixes or updates for Me by downloading
them using XP, saving in a temporary file, and then installing them
off line. You've put the bug in my head, that my Me can't go online
because it needs updating, and can't be updated because it can't go
online.


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Old September 1st 06, 07:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Mike M wrote:
Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but I'd
rather have a system that works and will run my applications, than
have the modem working.


That's quite amazing and I can't help feel that I've probably been
wasting my time. Perhaps I ought to remind you that it was YOU that
started this thread reporting problems and asking how to resolve them!

I'm sorry that you have never used system restore (SR) and this does
lead me to wonder why you upgraded to Win Me if you weren't interested
in one of its major features, another being the related system file
protection (SFP), with both SFP and SR being functions of Win Me's state
manager. No doubt you had your reasons and I guess those were important
to yourself but for a system that isn't going to be updated or used to
connect to the net you might as well have stuck with Win 98.

You asked in your very first post:

Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so
that I can see what's happening in RAM.


and I responded that you couldn't. If you weren't really interested in
installing your modem why didn't you quit then? As to where you go from
here I think I should leave that to you to decide as I feel that you
will always do what you want regardless of what I have to say. I know I
would if I were in your position. vbg

Cheers and the best of luck,

Mike, you recall that I have been using XP for 3+ years and
the only reason I resuscitated an older OS was that I have
certain mathematical DOS programs which will not run on XP.
Heaven knows I tried enough work-arounds. The reason for
going to ME was that I like the appearance of ME, and it's newer
and presumably better. You pointed out ways that it's better
but those don't appeal to me.

My method of program security involves cloning my Master Drive
as often as I am so disposed. In eras gone by, I did backup
on 5" floppies, then on various kinds of mag tape, but now I
like cloned hard drives.

I gather that I haven't been able to procure the data to help
you to unlock the mystery of my error message. You've led me
to new and interesting places, where other men but not this one
had gone before. and that's always nice, but my basic problem
still is that I need to get rid of the error message. If you'd
rather not proceed further on that task, I'll thank you for
your efforts, and prompt follow-up, and start back at a clone
(full restore point) that works, and proceed one step at a
time......carefully. I do appreciate your help.

--
William B. Lurie
  #28  
Old September 1st 06, 08:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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You asked earlier about reinstalling Win Me over itself. Since you
haven't felt the need to install any updates then you have nothing to lose
by doing this. Damage is done only if the user has updated their system
such as having installed IE6 or WMP9 and special procedures need to be
taken to remove these components before reinstalling the OS. The same
also applies to XP but the components involved differ somewhat.

Boot Win Me and then run setup.exe from the folder containing BASE2.CAB.

I am intrigued at your saying that your DOS program won't work in XP
whereas it does in Win Me since Win Me like XP doesn't strictly run DOS as
such but am guessing that it is closer than XP's cmd.exe

One solution you may wish to consider if running XP Pro rather than Home
is to use VPC (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../default.mspx),
now free, and to run Win Me or even DOS 6.22 or whatever in a virtual
machine on XP.
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Mike Maltby



wrote:

Mike M wrote:
Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but
I'd rather have a system that works and will run my applications,
than have the modem working.


That's quite amazing and I can't help feel that I've probably been
wasting my time. Perhaps I ought to remind you that it was YOU that
started this thread reporting problems and asking how to resolve
them! I'm sorry that you have never used system restore (SR) and this
does
lead me to wonder why you upgraded to Win Me if you weren't
interested in one of its major features, another being the related
system file protection (SFP), with both SFP and SR being functions
of Win Me's state manager. No doubt you had your reasons and I
guess those were important to yourself but for a system that isn't
going to be updated or used to connect to the net you might as well
have stuck with Win 98. You asked in your very first post:

Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so
that I can see what's happening in RAM.


and I responded that you couldn't. If you weren't really interested
in installing your modem why didn't you quit then? As to where you
go from here I think I should leave that to you to decide as I feel
that you will always do what you want regardless of what I have to
say. I know I would if I were in your position. vbg

Cheers and the best of luck,

Mike, you recall that I have been using XP for 3+ years and
the only reason I resuscitated an older OS was that I have
certain mathematical DOS programs which will not run on XP.
Heaven knows I tried enough work-arounds. The reason for
going to ME was that I like the appearance of ME, and it's newer
and presumably better. You pointed out ways that it's better
but those don't appeal to me.

My method of program security involves cloning my Master Drive
as often as I am so disposed. In eras gone by, I did backup
on 5" floppies, then on various kinds of mag tape, but now I
like cloned hard drives.

I gather that I haven't been able to procure the data to help
you to unlock the mystery of my error message. You've led me
to new and interesting places, where other men but not this one
had gone before. and that's always nice, but my basic problem
still is that I need to get rid of the error message. If you'd
rather not proceed further on that task, I'll thank you for
your efforts, and prompt follow-up, and start back at a clone
(full restore point) that works, and proceed one step at a
time......carefully. I do appreciate your help.


  #30  
Old September 3rd 06, 12:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Ron Martell wrote:
wrote:

But I have plenty (1GB) and 3 GB empty on hard drive.
This is a fairly new installation and I just upgraded to
video so that I could use high resolution. When I
went to setup the modem, it wouldn't let me......
not enough memory, close some programs. But I have
practically nothing running.

Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so
that I can see what's happening in RAM.

Thanks.


What specific applications are producing these error messages?

Does the message read "not enough memory" or does it read "not enough
free memory"

You have 1 gb of RAM. With that amount of RAM you *must* have the
following entry in the [vcache] section of the system.ini file in
order to avoid false "out of memory" errors:

MaxFileCache=512000

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

Thank you, Ron. I've put the ME version of my software
(on its own hard drive) aside for now, since no solution
appeared after many efforts by me and especially Mike
Maltby. I have backed off to the WIN 98, where problems
with DOS-based programs are far less severe. I can't
answer you from here, and I'm going to stick with ole
reliable WIN 98 for now, but I've bookmarked this whole
thread and will get back to you in the future. Thanks again.

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