Upgrading processor on old comp to K6-2@300MHz - errors starting

I have an old computer that works just fine with the AMD K6-300MHz processor
installed in it. I acquired an AMD K6-2@300MHz processor and heatsink/fan
combo and swapped the processors and fans.

The computer starts and works OK in DOS but Windows 98SE attemps to start
with various errors including IOS, NTKERN, KERNEL32 - varies depending on -
I don't know what, but every time it just restarts the computer and tries
again, and always fails.

Is there something I need to do to get this processor to work in my old
installation? Do I need to reinstall? Is there an update or something?

I would like to take advantage of the 3DNOW! functions of the K6-2 processor
in conjunction with my 3D ATI video card and thought it would be easy just
to swap processors but can't get it to work at all.

The system is a dual-boot between 98SE and ME. Neither Windows version will
start - not even in safe mode.

Ideas?....

Thanks

Windows mostly doesn't care about the CPU that is used, and certainly not
within those core components. I would guess that the new processor is
causing memory errors. Have you run memory diagnostics with the new
processor installed? Also, check that you have configured the CPU cache
correctly.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Jay" wrote in message
...
I have an old computer that works just fine with the AMD K6-300MHz
processor
installed in it. I acquired an AMD K6-2@300MHz processor and heatsink/fan
combo and swapped the processors and fans.

The computer starts and works OK in DOS but Windows 98SE attemps to start
with various errors including IOS, NTKERN, KERNEL32 - varies depending
on -
I don't know what, but every time it just restarts the computer and tries
again, and always fails.

Is there something I need to do to get this processor to work in my old
installation? Do I need to reinstall? Is there an update or something?

I would like to take advantage of the 3DNOW! functions of the K6-2
processor
in conjunction with my 3D ATI video card and thought it would be easy just
to swap processors but can't get it to work at all.

The system is a dual-boot between 98SE and ME. Neither Windows version
will
start - not even in safe mode.

Ideas?....

Thanks

Yes, I've done memory testing from DOS ( as Windows won't start) using a
couple of fairly reputable programs - no memory errors detected.

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
Windows mostly doesn't care about the CPU that is used, and certainly not
within those core components. I would guess that the new processor is
causing memory errors. Have you run memory diagnostics with the new
processor installed? Also, check that you have configured the CPU cache
correctly.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Jay" wrote in message
...
I have an old computer that works just fine with the AMD K6-300MHz
processor
installed in it. I acquired an AMD K6-2@300MHz processor and
heatsink/fan
combo and swapped the processors and fans.

The computer starts and works OK in DOS but Windows 98SE attemps to
start
with various errors including IOS, NTKERN, KERNEL32 - varies depending
on -
I don't know what, but every time it just restarts the computer and
tries
again, and always fails.

Is there something I need to do to get this processor to work in my old
installation? Do I need to reinstall? Is there an update or something?

I would like to take advantage of the 3DNOW! functions of the K6-2
processor
in conjunction with my 3D ATI video card and thought it would be easy
just
to swap processors but can't get it to work at all.

The system is a dual-boot between 98SE and ME. Neither Windows version
will
start - not even in safe mode.

Ideas?....

Thanks

In that case I'd look at cache. The fact that the problem occurs some way
into the startup implies cache.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Jay" wrote in message
...
Yes, I've done memory testing from DOS ( as Windows won't start) using a
couple of fairly reputable programs - no memory errors detected.

Jay wrote:
I have an old computer that works just fine with the AMD K6-300MHz
processor installed in it. I acquired an AMD K6-2@300MHz processor
and heatsink/fan combo and swapped the processors and fans.

The computer starts and works OK in DOS but Windows 98SE attemps to
start with various errors including IOS, NTKERN, KERNEL32 - varies
depending on - I don't know what, but every time it just restarts the
computer and tries again, and always fails.

Is there something I need to do to get this processor to work in my
old installation? Do I need to reinstall? Is there an update or
something?

I would like to take advantage of the 3DNOW! functions of the K6-2
processor in conjunction with my 3D ATI video card and thought it
would be easy just to swap processors but can't get it to work at all.

The system is a dual-boot between 98SE and ME. Neither Windows
version will start - not even in safe mode.

Ideas?....

Thanks

This site may have some clues.

http://aumha.org/win4/kbewpe.php

On Sun, 14 May 2006 17:14:14 -0400, "Jay" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I have an old computer that works just fine with the AMD K6-300MHz processor
installed in it. I acquired an AMD K6-2@300MHz processor and heatsink/fan
combo and swapped the processors and fans.

The computer starts and works OK in DOS but Windows 98SE attemps to start
with various errors including IOS, NTKERN, KERNEL32 - varies depending on -
I don't know what, but every time it just restarts the computer and tries
again, and always fails.

Which motherboard do you have? My old M571 motherboard has issues with
some AMD K6-2 CPUs if the PCI/FSB ratio is set for asynchronous (2:5)
instead of synchronous (1:2) mode.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

This board is a tekram P5T30-B4 board. I don't know if this is an issue
here but I will look into it, thanks.

"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 May 2006 17:14:14 -0400, "Jay" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I have an old computer that works just fine with the AMD K6-300MHz
processor
installed in it. I acquired an AMD K6-2@300MHz processor and
heatsink/fan
combo and swapped the processors and fans.

The computer starts and works OK in DOS but Windows 98SE attemps to start
with various errors including IOS, NTKERN, KERNEL32 - varies depending
on -
I don't know what, but every time it just restarts the computer and tries
again, and always fails.

Which motherboard do you have? My old M571 motherboard has issues with
some AMD K6-2 CPUs if the PCI/FSB ratio is set for asynchronous (2:5)
instead of synchronous (1:2) mode.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

On Sat, 20 May 2006 13:15:21 -0400, "Jay" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

This board is a tekram P5T30-B4 board. I don't know if this is an issue
here but I will look into it, thanks.

I'd first test the cache memory as suggested elsewhere in this thread.
I'd also experiment with more conservative FSB and multiplier
settings. You could also wait for the following patched BIOS to
complete beta testing:
http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm

I don't know whether the following applies to you but it may be worth
checking:

"Note that if you want to run a K6plus on a board with the Intel
430TX, 430VX, or ALi Aladdin IV(+) chipset, you may have to set
"System BIOS Cacheable" in the CMOS Setup to "Disable" to get it
working."

"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 14 May 2006 17:14:14 -0400, "Jay" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I have an old computer that works just fine with the AMD K6-300MHz
processor
installed in it. I acquired an AMD K6-2@300MHz processor and
heatsink/fan
combo and swapped the processors and fans.

The computer starts and works OK in DOS but Windows 98SE attemps to start
with various errors including IOS, NTKERN, KERNEL32 - varies depending
on -
I don't know what, but every time it just restarts the computer and tries
again, and always fails.

Which motherboard do you have? My old M571 motherboard has issues with
some AMD K6-2 CPUs if the PCI/FSB ratio is set for asynchronous (2:5)
instead of synchronous (1:2) mode.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 May 2006 13:15:21 -0400, "Jay" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

This board is a tekram P5T30-B4 board. I don't know if this is an issue
here but I will look into it, thanks.

I'd first test the cache memory as suggested elsewhere in this thread.
I'd also experiment with more conservative FSB and multiplier
settings. You could also wait for the following patched BIOS to
complete beta testing:
http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm

Actually, it is Jan's patch that I am using (revision # 3) for about a year
now. In his tech notes distributed with the patch, it suggests that K6,
K6-2, K6-3 chips should work on this board.

"Note that if you want to run a K6plus on a board with the Intel
430TX, 430VX, or ALi Aladdin IV(+) chipset, you may have to set
"System BIOS Cacheable" in the CMOS Setup to "Disable" to get it
working."

I shall try this and log the result.

The only option that has worked is to completely turn off L1 cache. Of
course, this slows the machine too much to make it worthwhile.

Suggestions? Is it possible the L1 cache is physically damaged? (It tested
fine with DOS tools). L2 cache is definitely not a problem.