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So I reinstalled the "System Tools" option from the windows second edition CD
and everything seemed to go smoothly. At the very end, I saw some error "..rundll32", but I had seen such errors earlier and they were automatically fixed upon restarting, so I did not think much of it.. I went ahead and restarted (as prompted after the install) and then it got to ...Verifying DMI Pool Data Windows 98 Splash Screen ... And then the computer turns itself off. I restarted multiple times but the same result. Then tried starting in safe mode (holding CTRL down) and here is what I see C:\windows\wininit.exe c:\ a a: etc... (a bunch of ASCII looking characters) Press any key to continue. And when I press a key, it turns off... Can anyone please tell me what can I do here? Thanks for your help! |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:50:26 -0800, mainhoon
wrote: So I reinstalled the "System Tools" option from the windows second edition CD and everything seemed to go smoothly. At the very end, I saw some error "..rundll32", but I had seen such errors earlier and they were automatically fixed upon restarting, so I did not think much of it.. I went ahead and restarted (as prompted after the install) and then it got to ..Verifying DMI Pool Data Windows 98 Splash Screen .. And then the computer turns itself off. I restarted multiple times but the same result. Then tried starting in safe mode (holding CTRL down) and here is what I see C:\windows\wininit.exe c:\ a a: etc... (a bunch of ASCII looking characters) Press any key to continue. And when I press a key, it turns off... Can anyone please tell me what can I do here? Thanks for your help! Try replacing the Wininit.exe file from the Windows CD. It may be corrupt or replaced with a virus. Boot to Dos with your Win98 Startup diskette with CDrom support and enter: EXT Follow the instructions, I have filled in what you should enter. Microsoft(R) Extract Command Line Helper ---------------------------------------- Please enter the path to the Windows CAB files (a : D:\Win98 (note, where D: is your CDrom. It may be temporarily E:, or F Please enter the name(s) of the file(s) you want to extract: wininit.exe Please enter the path to extract to ("Enter" for current directory): C:\Windows Also see this article: Verifying DMI Pool Data: http://www.soyousa.com/kb/kbdesc.php?id=133 Regards, Bill Watt Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ |
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After trying Bill's suggestions, here is something I picked up many moons
ago. A few years ago, I picked up the information below from the Maxtor web site. If you do not know about making changes in the BIOS, I would advise that you get help. DiamondMax : Tech Support : General Information Bulletin : 15007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Troubleshooting System Hangs caused by a Computer's DMI Pool Data Summary: Tips for resolving hangs generated via a system's DMI Pool Data Document #: 15007 Disclaimer: This Document is provided as is without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied. In no event will MAXTOR CORPORATION be liable to you for any damages, including any loss of profit or savings, arising out of the use or inability to use the information contained in this document. Maxtor Corporation makes no representations or warranties with respect to the contents hereof and specifically disclaims any implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for any particular purpose. Overview: The Desktop Management Interface (DMI) is a new method of managing computers in an enterprise. The main component of DMI is the Management Information Format Database, or MIFD (the DMI Pool Data). This database contains all the information about the computing system and its components. At times, some systems may experience hang conditions after partitioning, formatting and initial bootup of a hard drive. The message, "Verifying DMI Pool Data" appears and the system hangs. This condition may continue after the drive has been removed. ! WARNING ! ALL SUGGESTIONS LISTED IN THIS INFORMATION BULLETIN ARE BIOS RELATED. FOR A PERMANENT SOLUTION, MAXTOR RECOMMENDS THAT USERS CONSULT THEIR SYSTEM OR MOTHERBOARD MANUFACTURER FOR BIOS UPGRADES. Suggestions to Resolve the Condition: Apply power to the computer. Access the system BIOS. Set the drive type as None or Not Installed. Load BIOS Defaults Load SETUP Defaults Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette. Shut down the PC after the memory count is displayed. Reconnect the power and interface cables to the hard drive. Access the System BIOS. Auto-Detect the hard drive. Ensure that the LBA Mode option is enabled. Save the BIOS changes and boot the PC with a System Diskette. Partition and format the hard drive via the operating system. Reboot the system. On bootup, the screen should read: Verifying DMI Pool Data Update Successful The system should continue booting normally. Other Possible Solutions: Apply power to the computer. Access the System BIOS. Disable both the Internal and External CPU Cache. These features are located in either the "BIOS Features" or "Advanced Settings" options of the BIOS Setup. NOTE: Consult the System or Motherboard User's Manual for exact location of the Internal and External CPU Cache settings. Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On bootup, the screen should read: Verifying DMI Pool Data Update Successful The system should continue booting normally. After the system successfully boots, re-start the PC and access the system BIOS. Enable the External CPU Cache. This feature is located in the "BIOS Features" or "Advanced Settings". NOTE: Consult the System or Motherboard User's Manual for exact location of the External CPU Cache setting. ! WARNING ! User's MUST re-enable this feature for optimal system performance. Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On bootup, the screen should read: Verifying DMI Pool Data Update Successful The system should continue booting normally. NOTE: If the aforementioned suggestions fail to resolve the issue, contact the system or motherboard manufacturer to: Remove the "Clear CMOS" Jumper and reset the system BIOS Obtain a Flash BIOS Upgrade -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "mainhoon" wrote in message ... So I reinstalled the "System Tools" option from the windows second edition CD and everything seemed to go smoothly. At the very end, I saw some error "..rundll32", but I had seen such errors earlier and they were automatically fixed upon restarting, so I did not think much of it.. I went ahead and restarted (as prompted after the install) and then it got to ..Verifying DMI Pool Data Windows 98 Splash Screen .. And then the computer turns itself off. I restarted multiple times but the same result. Then tried starting in safe mode (holding CTRL down) and here is what I see C:\windows\wininit.exe c:\ a a: etc... (a bunch of ASCII looking characters) Press any key to continue. And when I press a key, it turns off... Can anyone please tell me what can I do here? Thanks for your help! |
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Ron
I don't think that this is relevant here for two reasons 1) the system doesn't hang - it reboots 2) the system gets into the Windows boot phase, rather than stalling at the end of the BIOS checks -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Ron Badour" wrote in message ... After trying Bill's suggestions, here is something I picked up many moons ago. A few years ago, I picked up the information below from the Maxtor web site. If you do not know about making changes in the BIOS, I would advise that you get help. DiamondMax : Tech Support : General Information Bulletin : 15007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Troubleshooting System Hangs caused by a Computer's DMI Pool Data Summary: Tips for resolving hangs generated via a system's DMI Pool Data Document #: 15007 Disclaimer: This Document is provided as is without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied. In no event will MAXTOR CORPORATION be liable to you for any damages, including any loss of profit or savings, arising out of the use or inability to use the information contained in this document. Maxtor Corporation makes no representations or warranties with respect to the contents hereof and specifically disclaims any implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for any particular purpose. Overview: The Desktop Management Interface (DMI) is a new method of managing computers in an enterprise. The main component of DMI is the Management Information Format Database, or MIFD (the DMI Pool Data). This database contains all the information about the computing system and its components. At times, some systems may experience hang conditions after partitioning, formatting and initial bootup of a hard drive. The message, "Verifying DMI Pool Data" appears and the system hangs. This condition may continue after the drive has been removed. ! WARNING ! ALL SUGGESTIONS LISTED IN THIS INFORMATION BULLETIN ARE BIOS RELATED. FOR A PERMANENT SOLUTION, MAXTOR RECOMMENDS THAT USERS CONSULT THEIR SYSTEM OR MOTHERBOARD MANUFACTURER FOR BIOS UPGRADES. Suggestions to Resolve the Condition: Apply power to the computer. Access the system BIOS. Set the drive type as None or Not Installed. Load BIOS Defaults Load SETUP Defaults Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette. Shut down the PC after the memory count is displayed. Reconnect the power and interface cables to the hard drive. Access the System BIOS. Auto-Detect the hard drive. Ensure that the LBA Mode option is enabled. Save the BIOS changes and boot the PC with a System Diskette. Partition and format the hard drive via the operating system. Reboot the system. On bootup, the screen should read: Verifying DMI Pool Data Update Successful The system should continue booting normally. Other Possible Solutions: Apply power to the computer. Access the System BIOS. Disable both the Internal and External CPU Cache. These features are located in either the "BIOS Features" or "Advanced Settings" options of the BIOS Setup. NOTE: Consult the System or Motherboard User's Manual for exact location of the Internal and External CPU Cache settings. Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On bootup, the screen should read: Verifying DMI Pool Data Update Successful The system should continue booting normally. After the system successfully boots, re-start the PC and access the system BIOS. Enable the External CPU Cache. This feature is located in the "BIOS Features" or "Advanced Settings". NOTE: Consult the System or Motherboard User's Manual for exact location of the External CPU Cache setting. ! WARNING ! User's MUST re-enable this feature for optimal system performance. Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On bootup, the screen should read: Verifying DMI Pool Data Update Successful The system should continue booting normally. NOTE: If the aforementioned suggestions fail to resolve the issue, contact the system or motherboard manufacturer to: Remove the "Clear CMOS" Jumper and reset the system BIOS Obtain a Flash BIOS Upgrade -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "mainhoon" wrote in message ... So I reinstalled the "System Tools" option from the windows second edition CD and everything seemed to go smoothly. At the very end, I saw some error "..rundll32", but I had seen such errors earlier and they were automatically fixed upon restarting, so I did not think much of it.. I went ahead and restarted (as prompted after the install) and then it got to ..Verifying DMI Pool Data Windows 98 Splash Screen .. And then the computer turns itself off. I restarted multiple times but the same result. Then tried starting in safe mode (holding CTRL down) and here is what I see C:\windows\wininit.exe c:\ a a: etc... (a bunch of ASCII looking characters) Press any key to continue. And when I press a key, it turns off... Can anyone please tell me what can I do here? Thanks for your help! |
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I agree--fighting a horrible cold and I must have sneezed when *not* reading
the turn off part. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Ron I don't think that this is relevant here for two reasons 1) the system doesn't hang - it reboots 2) the system gets into the Windows boot phase, rather than stalling at the end of the BIOS checks -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Ron Badour" wrote in message ... After trying Bill's suggestions, here is something I picked up many moons ago. A few years ago, I picked up the information below from the Maxtor web site. If you do not know about making changes in the BIOS, I would advise that you get help. DiamondMax : Tech Support : General Information Bulletin : 15007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Troubleshooting System Hangs caused by a Computer's DMI Pool Data Summary: Tips for resolving hangs generated via a system's DMI Pool Data Document #: 15007 Disclaimer: This Document is provided as is without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied. In no event will MAXTOR CORPORATION be liable to you for any damages, including any loss of profit or savings, arising out of the use or inability to use the information contained in this document. Maxtor Corporation makes no representations or warranties with respect to the contents hereof and specifically disclaims any implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for any particular purpose. Overview: The Desktop Management Interface (DMI) is a new method of managing computers in an enterprise. The main component of DMI is the Management Information Format Database, or MIFD (the DMI Pool Data). This database contains all the information about the computing system and its components. At times, some systems may experience hang conditions after partitioning, formatting and initial bootup of a hard drive. The message, "Verifying DMI Pool Data" appears and the system hangs. This condition may continue after the drive has been removed. ! WARNING ! ALL SUGGESTIONS LISTED IN THIS INFORMATION BULLETIN ARE BIOS RELATED. FOR A PERMANENT SOLUTION, MAXTOR RECOMMENDS THAT USERS CONSULT THEIR SYSTEM OR MOTHERBOARD MANUFACTURER FOR BIOS UPGRADES. Suggestions to Resolve the Condition: Apply power to the computer. Access the system BIOS. Set the drive type as None or Not Installed. Load BIOS Defaults Load SETUP Defaults Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette. Shut down the PC after the memory count is displayed. Reconnect the power and interface cables to the hard drive. Access the System BIOS. Auto-Detect the hard drive. Ensure that the LBA Mode option is enabled. Save the BIOS changes and boot the PC with a System Diskette. Partition and format the hard drive via the operating system. Reboot the system. On bootup, the screen should read: Verifying DMI Pool Data Update Successful The system should continue booting normally. Other Possible Solutions: Apply power to the computer. Access the System BIOS. Disable both the Internal and External CPU Cache. These features are located in either the "BIOS Features" or "Advanced Settings" options of the BIOS Setup. NOTE: Consult the System or Motherboard User's Manual for exact location of the Internal and External CPU Cache settings. Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On bootup, the screen should read: Verifying DMI Pool Data Update Successful The system should continue booting normally. After the system successfully boots, re-start the PC and access the system BIOS. Enable the External CPU Cache. This feature is located in the "BIOS Features" or "Advanced Settings". NOTE: Consult the System or Motherboard User's Manual for exact location of the External CPU Cache setting. ! WARNING ! User's MUST re-enable this feature for optimal system performance. Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On bootup, the screen should read: Verifying DMI Pool Data Update Successful The system should continue booting normally. NOTE: If the aforementioned suggestions fail to resolve the issue, contact the system or motherboard manufacturer to: Remove the "Clear CMOS" Jumper and reset the system BIOS Obtain a Flash BIOS Upgrade -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "mainhoon" wrote in message ... So I reinstalled the "System Tools" option from the windows second edition CD and everything seemed to go smoothly. At the very end, I saw some error "..rundll32", but I had seen such errors earlier and they were automatically fixed upon restarting, so I did not think much of it.. I went ahead and restarted (as prompted after the install) and then it got to ..Verifying DMI Pool Data Windows 98 Splash Screen .. And then the computer turns itself off. I restarted multiple times but the same result. Then tried starting in safe mode (holding CTRL down) and here is what I see C:\windows\wininit.exe c:\ a a: etc... (a bunch of ASCII looking characters) Press any key to continue. And when I press a key, it turns off... Can anyone please tell me what can I do here? Thanks for your help! |
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Thanks everyone for the help.
So I did extract wininit.exe and it seems to have revived the computer again.. Actually I did not know you could do EXT, I typed in the whole extract command with /a and /l etc.. and finding where wininit.exe was located in, turns out in win98_47.cab! Learning stuff! I am able to boot now.. However in the process, I realized something. Msft support site on this topic says that it can happen due to missing/damaged wininit.exe or vmm32.vxd.. Now I was able to get back wininit.exe but I noticed that I do not have a vmm32.vxd in C:\windows.. However my comp is able to reboot, how is that happening? Isn't the vmm32.vxd necessary? "Bill Watt" wrote: On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:50:26 -0800, mainhoon wrote: So I reinstalled the "System Tools" option from the windows second edition CD and everything seemed to go smoothly. At the very end, I saw some error "..rundll32", but I had seen such errors earlier and they were automatically fixed upon restarting, so I did not think much of it.. I went ahead and restarted (as prompted after the install) and then it got to ..Verifying DMI Pool Data Windows 98 Splash Screen .. And then the computer turns itself off. I restarted multiple times but the same result. Then tried starting in safe mode (holding CTRL down) and here is what I see C:\windows\wininit.exe c:\ a a: etc... (a bunch of ASCII looking characters) Press any key to continue. And when I press a key, it turns off... Can anyone please tell me what can I do here? Thanks for your help! Try replacing the Wininit.exe file from the Windows CD. It may be corrupt or replaced with a virus. Boot to Dos with your Win98 Startup diskette with CDrom support and enter: EXT Follow the instructions, I have filled in what you should enter. Microsoft(R) Extract Command Line Helper ---------------------------------------- Please enter the path to the Windows CAB files (a : D:\Win98 (note, where D: is your CDrom. It may be temporarily E:, or F Please enter the name(s) of the file(s) you want to extract: wininit.exe Please enter the path to extract to ("Enter" for current directory): C:\Windows Also see this article: Verifying DMI Pool Data: http://www.soyousa.com/kb/kbdesc.php?id=133 Regards, Bill Watt Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ |
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You have it, or you would not be running. Vmm32.vxd is not in the Windows folder,
it is in the Windows\System folder. You do NOT extract a new copy of *that* file.....it is custom-built on each machine during setup, and the copy in the .cab files on the CD is only a "skeleton" to build into, using a particular procedure during setup. Do NOT tamper with vmm32.vxd. The only thing you should do with that file is make a backup copy to store somewhere safe. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "mainhoon" wrote in message ... Thanks everyone for the help. So I did extract wininit.exe and it seems to have revived the computer again.. Actually I did not know you could do EXT, I typed in the whole extract command with /a and /l etc.. and finding where wininit.exe was located in, turns out in win98_47.cab! Learning stuff! I am able to boot now.. However in the process, I realized something. Msft support site on this topic says that it can happen due to missing/damaged wininit.exe or vmm32.vxd.. Now I was able to get back wininit.exe but I noticed that I do not have a vmm32.vxd in C:\windows.. However my comp is able to reboot, how is that happening? Isn't the vmm32.vxd necessary? "Bill Watt" wrote: On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:50:26 -0800, mainhoon wrote: So I reinstalled the "System Tools" option from the windows second edition CD and everything seemed to go smoothly. At the very end, I saw some error "..rundll32", but I had seen such errors earlier and they were automatically fixed upon restarting, so I did not think much of it.. I went ahead and restarted (as prompted after the install) and then it got to ..Verifying DMI Pool Data Windows 98 Splash Screen .. And then the computer turns itself off. I restarted multiple times but the same result. Then tried starting in safe mode (holding CTRL down) and here is what I see C:\windows\wininit.exe c:\ a a: etc... (a bunch of ASCII looking characters) Press any key to continue. And when I press a key, it turns off... Can anyone please tell me what can I do here? Thanks for your help! Try replacing the Wininit.exe file from the Windows CD. It may be corrupt or replaced with a virus. Boot to Dos with your Win98 Startup diskette with CDrom support and enter: EXT Follow the instructions, I have filled in what you should enter. Microsoft(R) Extract Command Line Helper ---------------------------------------- Please enter the path to the Windows CAB files (a : D:\Win98 (note, where D: is your CDrom. It may be temporarily E:, or F Please enter the name(s) of the file(s) you want to extract: wininit.exe Please enter the path to extract to ("Enter" for current directory): C:\Windows Also see this article: Verifying DMI Pool Data: http://www.soyousa.com/kb/kbdesc.php?id=133 Regards, Bill Watt Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ |
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It's in the Windows/System folder--did you look there?
-- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "mainhoon" wrote in message ... Thanks everyone for the help. So I did extract wininit.exe and it seems to have revived the computer again.. Actually I did not know you could do EXT, I typed in the whole extract command with /a and /l etc.. and finding where wininit.exe was located in, turns out in win98_47.cab! Learning stuff! I am able to boot now.. However in the process, I realized something. Msft support site on this topic says that it can happen due to missing/damaged wininit.exe or vmm32.vxd.. Now I was able to get back wininit.exe but I noticed that I do not have a vmm32.vxd in C:\windows.. However my comp is able to reboot, how is that happening? Isn't the vmm32.vxd necessary? "Bill Watt" wrote: On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:50:26 -0800, mainhoon wrote: So I reinstalled the "System Tools" option from the windows second edition CD and everything seemed to go smoothly. At the very end, I saw some error "..rundll32", but I had seen such errors earlier and they were automatically fixed upon restarting, so I did not think much of it.. I went ahead and restarted (as prompted after the install) and then it got to ..Verifying DMI Pool Data Windows 98 Splash Screen .. And then the computer turns itself off. I restarted multiple times but the same result. Then tried starting in safe mode (holding CTRL down) and here is what I see C:\windows\wininit.exe c:\ a a: etc... (a bunch of ASCII looking characters) Press any key to continue. And when I press a key, it turns off... Can anyone please tell me what can I do here? Thanks for your help! Try replacing the Wininit.exe file from the Windows CD. It may be corrupt or replaced with a virus. Boot to Dos with your Win98 Startup diskette with CDrom support and enter: EXT Follow the instructions, I have filled in what you should enter. Microsoft(R) Extract Command Line Helper ---------------------------------------- Please enter the path to the Windows CAB files (a : D:\Win98 (note, where D: is your CDrom. It may be temporarily E:, or F Please enter the name(s) of the file(s) you want to extract: wininit.exe Please enter the path to extract to ("Enter" for current directory): C:\Windows Also see this article: Verifying DMI Pool Data: http://www.soyousa.com/kb/kbdesc.php?id=133 Regards, Bill Watt Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ |
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:40:27 -0800, mainhoon
wrote: So I did extract wininit.exe and it seems to have revived the computer again.. Actually I did not know you could do EXT, I typed in the whole extract command with /a and /l etc.. and finding where wininit.exe was located in, turns out in win98_47.cab! Learning stuff! EXT.exe was created by MS to make it easier to extract files from the CD. It's on the Win98 Startup diskette but not normally installed by default. It must be in the same folder with Extract.exe in order to work. It's much easier than Extract. I'll try to remember to clarify that next time. I put both files in the root. EXT and Extract are not on the Startup diskette made from the Fat32ebd file on the CD. Glad you got squared away and thanks for reporting the results. Regards, Bill Watt Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ |
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Bill Watt wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:40:27 -0800, mainhoon wrote: So I did extract wininit.exe and it seems to have revived the computer again.. Actually I did not know you could do EXT, I typed in the whole extract command with /a and /l etc.. and finding where wininit.exe was located in, turns out in win98_47.cab! Learning stuff! EXT.exe was created by MS to make it easier to extract files from the CD. It's on the Win98 Startup diskette but not normally installed by default. It must be in the same folder with Extract.exe in order to work. It's much easier than Extract. I'll try to remember to clarify that next time. I put both files in the root. EXT and Extract are not on the Startup diskette made from the Fat32ebd file on the CD. Glad you got squared away and thanks for reporting the results. Regards, Bill Watt Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/ Is this the same file as 'ext.exe' found in Tools/oldmsdos on a W98se OE disk? 13299 bites 4/23/99 |
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