USB Drive for Win 98 SE ?

John Dulak wrote:

According to the HP site that drive has a capacity of 8 Gig
which means it almost certainly is formatted with an NTFS
file system which Win 98 will not "see".

Why would you think that FAT32 would either be inappropriate or
incompatible with a drive/volume size of 8 gb?

In fact, journalling file systems (such as NTFS) are seen largely as
poor choices for flash-memory drives, because of the finite read/write
cycle lifespan of that type of memory - and the somewhat "busy" nature
of NTFS.

While there may be third party patches to get Win98 to use NTFS
I have no idea if they would work with an already patched USB
function

The claimed benefits of NTFS over FAT32 are largely ficticious or bogus.

The main goal that Microsoft had in mind for NTFS is a file-system that
was not accessible if a system was booted into a command-line (DOS-like)
operating system. Most of the other advantages of NTFS have been
replaced by advances in drive hardware (real-time bad-sector remapping).

Which is why I install OS's like XP to drives pre-formatted with FAT32
when I have the chance. Much more open, accessible, and repairable
compared to NTFS.

98 Guy wrote:
John Dulak wrote:

According to the HP site that drive has a capacity of 8 Gig
which means it almost certainly is formatted with an NTFS
file system which Win 98 will not "see".

Why would you think that FAT32 would either be inappropriate or
incompatible with a drive/volume size of 8 gb?


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98 Guy:

I once came across an 8 Gig Flash drive from a different manufacturer
that WAS formatted with NTFS and was useless on Win98. It was not my
drive so I did not have a chance to "play" with it. From what I know
of the owners computer skills the chance he reformatted it to NTFS is
slim to none.

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"Robert Macy" wrote in message
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Don't know who wrote this:
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I did.
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"Robert Macy" wrote in message
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Don't know who wrote this:
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I did.
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Thanks, John.. It is the 4GB drive,and FAT32.
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RobF

"John Dulak" wrote in message
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| RobF wrote:
| My new HP USB flash drive, model v125w (version unknown, 2 or 3,HP
does'nt
| know or support) works well on main XP computer, but am having
difficulties
| with drivers for 98SE supplied at
| http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php. They're not
making it
| possible for system to recognize the drive. BIOS of my backup 98se box
shows
| board supports usb v.2, so i'm guessing that there's a way to make the
flash
| drive functional.
|
| Has anyone here had experience with these or other drivers that work
with
| flash drive, either version 2 or 3?
|
| RobF:
|
| According to the HP site that drive has a capacity of 8 Gig which
| means it almost certainly is formatted with an NTFS file system which
| Win 98 will not "see".
|
| You can verify this by plugging the flash drive into your XP computer,
| point to it in Windows Explorer (or "My Computer") right click on it
| and choose properties. The "General" tab will tell you which file
| system is installed.
|
| While there may be third party patches to get Win98 to use NTFS I have
| no idea if they would work with an already patched USB function
|
| HTH & GL
|
| John
|
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"Robert Macy" wrote in message
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On Mar 1, 12:14 pm, John Dulak wrote:
RobF wrote:
My new HP USB flash drive, model v125w (version unknown, 2 or 3,HP
does'nt
know or support) works well on main XP computer, but am having
difficulties
with drivers for 98SE supplied at
http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php. They're not making
it
possible for system to recognize the drive. BIOS of my backup 98se box
shows
board supports usb v.2, so i'm guessing that there's a way to make the
flash
drive functional.

Has anyone here had experience with these or other drivers that work
with
flash drive, either version 2 or 3?

RobF:

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NTFS?! interesting.

But I learned the hard way, under no circumstances *EVER* reformat a
USB flash drive in FAT32 using WinXP if you're planning on trying to
use the flash drive on Win98. Instead, use Win98

Thanks, Robert. USB drive working on XP; have copied some files there as
test. Will of course keep Fat 32. What is this about reformatting, and is
there something about partitioning I should know, if, as is the case, i'm
using it only as a repository?
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RobF

What is "Dire software" that you mentioned? If the HP site for this v125w
flash drive supplies software for USB. The USB is installed with software
that came with the motherboard.
"Hot-text" wrote in message
news | For You Need to know that no USB flash drive work on win98 if do not
install
| the USB .inf file first!
| Get the Dire software for the HP USB flash drive, model v125w and in
stall
| it!
|
|
|

What is "Dire software" that you mentioned? If the HP site for this v125w
flash drive supplies software for USB. The USB is installed with software
that came with the motherboard.
"Hot-text" wrote in message
news | For You Need to know that no USB flash drive work on win98 if do not
install
| the USB .inf file first!
| Get the Dire software for the HP USB flash drive, model v125w and in
stall
| it!
|
|
|

Thanks, Robert. I downloaded the file. But it seems to be for '98 FE, as in
the post you quoted (from glee). i'd better not experiment with installing
it on my SE box.
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RobF

"Robert Macy" wrote in message
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On Mar 1, 11:32 am, "RobF" wrote:
My new HP USB flash drive, model v125w (version unknown, 2 or 3,HP does'nt
know or support) works well on main XP computer, but am having
difficulties
with drivers for 98SE supplied
athttp://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php. They're not
making it
possible for system to recognize the drive. BIOS of my backup 98se box
shows
board supports usb v.2, so i'm guessing that there's a way to make the
flash
drive functional.

Has anyone here had experience with these or other drivers that work with
flash drive, either version 2 or 3?
--
RobF

Don't know who wrote this:

"For Win98FE, therefore, I recommend using a different driver, from
the Italian web
sitr wintricks.it

It is not installed beforehand like the Maximus Decim driver; rather
you point to it
when Windows first detects the inserted thumb drive, as you can see
from the
pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html

Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on
some of the
pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip

Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it
to a folder
where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your
flash drive,
Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver.
Choose to have
it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it
will see the
..inf file there and install your flash drive.

You can use this same .inf file to install other flash drives and USB
mass storage,
so save the .zip file somewhere safe and store the .inf file in a
permanent location
of your choice. I use the hidden Windows\Inf\Other folder, but you
can use whatever
you like.

= = =
it might work for you.

Thanks, Robert. I downloaded the file. But it seems to be for '98 FE, as in
the post you quoted (from glee). i'd better not experiment with installing
it on my SE box.
--
RobF

"Robert Macy" wrote in message
...
On Mar 1, 11:32 am, "RobF" wrote:
My new HP USB flash drive, model v125w (version unknown, 2 or 3,HP does'nt
know or support) works well on main XP computer, but am having
difficulties
with drivers for 98SE supplied
athttp://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php. They're not
making it
possible for system to recognize the drive. BIOS of my backup 98se box
shows
board supports usb v.2, so i'm guessing that there's a way to make the
flash
drive functional.

Has anyone here had experience with these or other drivers that work with
flash drive, either version 2 or 3?
--
RobF

Don't know who wrote this:

"For Win98FE, therefore, I recommend using a different driver, from
the Italian web
sitr wintricks.it

It is not installed beforehand like the Maximus Decim driver; rather
you point to it
when Windows first detects the inserted thumb drive, as you can see
from the
pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html

Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on
some of the
pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip

Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it
to a folder
where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your
flash drive,
Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver.
Choose to have
it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it
will see the
..inf file there and install your flash drive.

You can use this same .inf file to install other flash drives and USB
mass storage,
so save the .zip file somewhere safe and store the .inf file in a
permanent location
of your choice. I use the hidden Windows\Inf\Other folder, but you
can use whatever
you like.

= = =
it might work for you.